urabus555, thanks alot for all that info, i know you already had a build thread going on with all that but that involves alot of filtering to find where as you were just staright up with everything. After reading I dont think I will end up seam welding the car as of right now, just being as like you say I dont NEED it. But if it starts rippin apart, then I guess I may do it. Again, Thanks for all the help.