Well, you nailed it pretty good Mitch. I would like to emphasize about the noise, it sounds very good! I bet with the BOV, it sounds awesome! I really didnt want to take the bumper off either, I just went from under the car, and I scratched my piping up also, but its scratched on a part that sits in the fender, so no tears shed here. Anywho, I will see ya around. Oh yeah, let me know when your ready for the Whitelines