Nobody is contesting the past reliability and ability to make power with the pre 704 casting engines or platforms. So that precludes alot of the sand rail, racing people etc.
My comment wasnt an analogy towards phil. I was talking about how as far as i know, nobody dyno tests and sells subaru motors with dyno sheets. Jason said the domestic boys do for their crate motors.
I was also saying how american car companies took advantage of consumers by not keeping their products competitive until they were loosing money on imports being better until just a few years ago.