no offense taken hondaslayer...whether i do or dont know how to take a bolt off, theres no need for smart ass comments..ppl being difficult or ******** are not needed.i know how to do it. just dont have the tool needed..never really used a breaker bar. but then again never really needed a breaker bar for any of my other cars...i dont get why ppl cant just help if they know the answer and if they dont know or dont want to be nice and share..why they cant just keep their attitude to themselves...its all over these forums..ppl are so damn angry all the time..about who knows what..bottom line whether its me or someone else, theres no need for sarcasm and smart ass comments..does absolutely nothing!