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Old 03-13-2013, 06:58 PM   #1791
richde
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Originally Posted by 53x12 View Post
Sure it does. As has been shown many times, EPA numbers don't always match up with real world driving. Didn't realize you drove your car to work and home on a dyno every day in a building. I'll take real world driving data over EPA. I put more trust in Fuelly than I do the EPA testing.
It doesn't matter because everybody's driving style is different.

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Dude, I'm in my 30s and have driven manual cars since I got my license. Down shifting isn't a big deal nor is driving in traffic with a manual. I have commuted in rush hour traffic when I lived in Chicago and DC/Baltimore area without issues. Hey, sounds like to was too much for you too deal with so it is good you moved on to an auto. Doesn't mean the rest of us 3 pedal guys will do the same. We are perfectly fine just as we are.
There you go again thinking that you're a special snowflake because you choose to drive a manual. Notice I said "choose" while you make it out like you have some arcane knowledge. It's not tough, plenty of old pensioners in Europe do it every day.

If you want to measure our respective manual transmission e-peens, you can always try driving an old 911 with the archaic 915 transmission...like I do sometimes. In comparison, everything else feels like they're designed for housewives.

BTW, I'm in my 40's, have owned many manual transmission equipped cars, and motorcycles....so you need to put that little e-peen away before someone starts laughing at it.

There are many things I can do, but I don't need to do them every day to somehow brag of my mundane skills as if everybody is watching in awe or to feel as if I'm in an exclusive club that can walk and chew gum at the same time. I'm sure the housewives and retirees are very impressed that you can do the same thing as them.

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Hey, the CVT could very well be just as reliable as a manual. My hypothetical wasn't under warranty (who cares about that as it is covered) but rather after the warranty ends. If anything happened to my transmission out of warranty, I would rather be the owner of a MT than a CVT car. Because it would be cheaper to deal with a MT issue than a CVT issue. I tend to keep my cars a long time, so that is important to me. If I was trading in my car after 3 years, then it wouldn't matter.
You mean five years, and if it lasts that long, it's probably not going to have any problems at all. Besides, regardless of type, if your transmission has to be split, it's going to cost a lot of money.

What CVT issue? You're just making up things to justify your position at this point.

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Where is the 10% savings in fuel cost? At most it would be ~7.7% based off the EPA numbers (28 vs 26). Fuelly doesn't have a lot of XV's up yet (22), but so far the cars listed as auto vs manual show minimal difference in their reported numbers.
It still ends up as a wash between the cost of the CVT option, fuel savings and additional trade-in/resale value.

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I don't get your issue with the car feeling "cheap" when you have to work the car over? What does that even mean?
Maybe you haven't driven enough ****ty little cars to notice or perceive a difference. Downshifting merely to make it up a hill is annoying, and I defy you to claim it to be exciting. If you do think it's exciting, I suggest you buy a VW Bus/Vanagan or whatever they're called, you won't be able to contain yourself with all the excitement.

This is a stupid argument, reply if you want, but rest assured you're wrong.
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