Byzatium! That's why people come here right?! To get advice from enthusist that have been thru this process "experience". Im grateful for you advice but I'm sure there has been others that have been thru this and have done it. Thanx crash I know what u meant. Well I'm going to look into it more. Cobb Stage 2 upgrade looks good. Anyone think it's not the right way? Should I just vf39, sti inj, fuel pump, sti intercooler, sound better? Will a different stage clutch make a difference? Thanx