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03-17-2014, 09:51 PM | #5251 |
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03-17-2014, 10:31 PM | #5252 |
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03-17-2014, 10:38 PM | #5253 | |
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03-18-2014, 09:51 AM | #5254 |
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03-18-2014, 01:52 PM | #5255 |
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Quick question. I drive an 04 WRX wagon, and I'm looking at installing RCE wagon springs and Koni Yellows. I DD the car mostly, but would like to start auto X and a track day here and there.
Can I just use GroupN top hats for the front and rear to acheive a -1.3 to -1.5 camber in the front and a -1.0 camber in the rear, or would I need to get the whiteline adjustable top hat? |
03-18-2014, 08:08 PM | #5256 |
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Other option is white line com c front tophats and use your factory bolts.
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03-18-2014, 09:37 PM | #5257 | |
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In the rear, there are no eccentric bolts. This limits the amount of rear camber you can dial in. It seems to vary by car a bit, but I think the stock range is about -1.5 to -1.8 degrees. To get less camber in the rear, you could use either a set of camber bolts, or slot the mounting holes. This will also allow you to get rid of cross camber. So no, I wouldn't think you would HAVE to get the Whiteline top hats. |
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03-18-2014, 10:23 PM | #5258 | |
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I've seen that most can get -1.0° to -1.3° with stock type components, which you have. Occasionally I've seen some people get -1.5° to -1.8° with stock type components, but that is by far the exception. You are the very lucky exception. |
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03-19-2014, 12:35 AM | #5259 | |
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Either way, he said he was looking for -1.3, which should be doable with out the white line top hats. |
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03-24-2014, 10:38 AM | #5260 |
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Anybody here using the Tein Street Basis coil overs? I am very close to making that purchase and plan reusing my old strut mounts as the kit says it can do so. I was wondering if anybody had any camber problems in the rear with these when dropping about 1.5-2". Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
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03-25-2014, 11:51 AM | #5261 |
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So I got lucky and found a set of tokico d-specs on ebay recently and weighing my options before I install them on my 04' wrx wagaon. My car is a spirited daily driver and I go on a lot of roadtrips with a loaded car usually. I chose the d-specs for the adjustability. Am I correct in thinking that I can maintain a higher riding height with a full load by running full stiff without damaging the struts? I do not want to lose any ride height so I am sticking with my stock springs I think (they have 130k on them) feel free to chime in a better solution for springs. I backpack, climb, bike, etc so I usually travel on sketchy dirt roads to get to where I want to be.
Next is figuring out front tophats since the d-specs are 02-03. Leaning towards group N or whiteline com c's. I do not track my car so -1.5+ camber is not a priority. Are whitelines one setting? My car is currently 100% stock suspension. I will be getting sways and endlinks. Probably going to get the 20mm rear subaru one and undecided on the front...trying to find something used. Do not want to spend a lot more money on the suspension. |
03-25-2014, 12:22 PM | #5262 | |
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If you are looking for a firmer ride and maintain a stock ride height look into King springs. I think the Kings are 04-07 type springs, but they will work without a problem in 02-03 type struts. All you need to do to make them work is get 921 spacers. They are a special washer that fits between the rear strut and rear top hat. Go to Turn in Concepts for the spacers. You will also need to use 04-07 rear top hats as well. Get the Com-C top hats. They will give you back the lost camber and have the Group-N firmness. A poor man spring solution for stock ride height is STI take off springs with 1/2 spacers on the top hats to increase ride height. Not the best way to do it as you will loose suspension travel, but gain ground clearance. Having the full travel the Kings will give you are a major plus, but the STI springs are great and super cheap. |
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03-25-2014, 01:13 PM | #5263 |
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Thanks...I like the poor man solution. Almost think I jumped the gun on the d-specs and spent to much money on struts. Sways, endlinks, tophats, d-specs, and springs. Add up to a pretty penny of my valuable money.
My car is a 04 so could I get away with using my rear tophats? It was manufactured in 03 however. |
03-25-2014, 02:54 PM | #5264 |
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03-25-2014, 05:31 PM | #5265 | |
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03-26-2014, 02:33 PM | #5266 |
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King springs are a slap in pocket? any other solutions out there? I skimmed somewhere about GC springs since they have a higher spring rate.
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04-04-2014, 01:46 PM | #5267 | |
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Koni inserts front only top hats as i can reuse rear either group-n or whiteline com-c if i want to play around with camber RCE wagon springs as a side note i recently installed front sway bar at 22mm, endlinks, and switched to my summer wheels/tires and getting shaking starting at about 70mph any ideas? from what i saw in the forums people are suggesting wheel bearing, tie rod, balancing am i missing anything? any ways of troubleshooting? thinking about rotating tires to see if it's balancing would that make sense? |
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04-05-2014, 06:32 AM | #5268 |
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Hey guys, I've got a 2003 wrx wagon that's mostly stock, but I'd like to change that.
I have a set of 18x8 +45 volk racing fzero trophy rims that I'm gonna run on the car. I'll also be running a set of bc br coilovers, or something else around that price range. If you have a recommendation let me know. I'd like to get rid of a little bit of wheel gap but still be able to return to near stock height. For this suspension set up, what size tire should I run? I'm planning on rolling all 4 fenders, but I won't pull them. What's the biggest I could fit without rubbing, 235? Or should I just get 225s? Thanks |
04-09-2014, 11:20 PM | #5269 |
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Hey all,
I have a 2006 wrx wagon with 225/45/17 tires.....just bought STI Pink springs and am planning on getting tokico d-spec struts. Will I need to purchase new camber bolts or anything else to get everything dialed in correctly? I know these questions have probably been answered in the past but there is a lot of info out there and there are a few specifics to the 06-07 wagons. thank you! |
04-10-2014, 05:37 AM | #5270 | |
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04-10-2014, 11:20 AM | #5271 |
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So its time to go with a new suspension setup on my 06 wagon and I'm looking to you the "experts" for suggestions on which springs to keep and what struts to go with. Car is spirited daily driver. Also stocking up parts to go VF43 with in the year.
Currently installed Front and rear sway bars and strut towers with Kartboy links. Springs I have JDM Pinks (wagon) Epic 04-07 Wrx Swift Sport (wagon) I'm thinking either D-specs or KYB AGX or sell all and go with ST Coilovers but concerned with NVH and maintenance. Thoughts? |
04-10-2014, 11:34 AM | #5272 |
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Well the kyb will not list a part number for the wagon however I have seen people for them before another alternative would be the koni inserts
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04-10-2014, 01:04 PM | #5273 | |
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The D-Specs are better than the AGX. They are both sedan fitment, but the camber issues can be corrected by a number of ways. •Com-C tops (great) •slotting the struts (great free mod) •aftermarket camber bolts (inexpensive, but can be a major pain) Koni inserts are great too and you retain your wagon strut housings. No camber issues with the Koni. You will need 921 spacers (a special washer) to mate the D-Specs or AGX with your 04-07 rear top hats. I'm not a fan of coil overs for a daily driver. They can almost never be as reliable and trouble free as a good strut/spring combo. Last edited by Bikelok; 04-10-2014 at 01:33 PM. |
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04-13-2014, 01:11 PM | #5274 | |
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04-13-2014, 09:48 PM | #5275 |
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Thanks for the information in this thread everyone! I've finally decided to go with the Koni Yellows for my STI wagon pink springs...and I purchased group-n front strut mounts, it looks like the rears have less of an influence on the suspension and don't warrant the price-tag.
However, I assume it's still a good idea to at least replace the rears with oem tophats or KYB since the chassis has nearly 103k on it? Just want to confirm that the 90 dollars for new rear tophats is worth it. |
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