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Old 06-17-2014, 03:22 PM   #676
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I'm glad you're still into the modification of scoobies! I love this new bugeye you have and how much you've done to it already. Its looks like a super sleeper. I havent read every page of this thread but is this your track car? What made you decide on a bugeye versus a more recent model like the 2006 STI or even something else than subaru?
Thanks. It's not a dedicated track car, but it's no daily driver either. It's meant to be a street car with some track time.

I chose a Bugeye due to the cost. I got the car for $3800 (running) and sold the motor and tranny for $1500. So pretty cheap cost of entry, even compared to an older STI.

Sticking with Subaru was all due to having the support of NF locally. Great crew to work with. I wouldn't want to be going at something like this on my own.

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Didn't you know to be NASIOC famous you have to have a car that looks like this!

Perfect. So much stance it covers the watermark!
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:42 AM   #677
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wait wait wait. I was not expecting stance, and those posts were misleading. Liked the rpf1's on your '11 just thought you may have made similar choices for this!
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:42 AM   #678
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Here are some more photos of the car:











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Old 06-18-2014, 08:43 AM   #679
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wait wait wait. I was not expecting stance, and those posts were misleading. Liked the rpf1's on your '11 just thought you may have made similar choices for this!
Yes, the posts were misleading.
No, I am not stanced. That is Photoshop. Haha.

I wouldn't mind some wide RPF1's again, but I picked these wheels up cheap.
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:59 AM   #680
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Here are some results from the tuning last night:



It made just over 450WHP @ 26psi on E85. Spools pretty late, but top end feels strong and boost holds well.

Comparison to the last time:



Differences: Before -> After
  • Turbo Compressor: 53mm Inducer -> 54mm Inducer
  • Intercooler: GrimmSpeed TMIC -> TurboXS FMIC
  • Blow Off Valve: Stock BPV Crushed -> TurboXS RFL BOV
  • Uppipe: GrimmSpeed Uppipe -> GrimmSpeed EWG Uppipe
  • Wastegate: Internal Wastegate -> TurboSmart 40mm
  • Outside Temperature: 30-40F -> 70-80F

The powerband does feel quite different. What is seen on the plot can be felt on the road. It really gets into power around 5k. This is really pretty late, but the power comes on strong and feels good out to redline. Once in the power it feels good, but it takes a bit to get there.

Not an ideal powerband for daily/street or autocross, but for occasional driving and drag events it should work great. I am looking forward to seeing what it will do at at the track. I am hoping it will do 11's and trap in the 120's, but I'll be on street tires so we'll see how well it grips.

Here is a quick speedo video:


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Old 06-18-2014, 09:42 AM   #681
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^ is that pump or e85 Ben? Also don't see you having any trouble hitting mid to low 11's with that!
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:43 AM   #682
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^ is that pump or e85 Ben? Also don't see you having any trouble hitting mid to low 11's with that!
E85 only for this car. Should be able to do 11's if it can hook decently well.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:54 AM   #683
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I think those federals should be ok to grab lol
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Old 06-18-2014, 11:52 AM   #684
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Very nice to see you back in action. Guess I started poking around NASIOC again on the right day (my STi is parked again, f***ing epilepsy). That car should be a hell of a lot of fun. What's a bugeye weigh, like 3300 lbs, so the 3900 lbs on the dyno sheet is with fluids and driver? 3300 lb car with 430 hp at the wheels? Whoooo!

I figured you had transferred the wheels from the Forester to the Bugeye and had an Enkei surprise in store for the Forester, but I guess you just have two sets of that WRX wheel now?
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Old 06-18-2014, 11:54 AM   #685
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No stance, no care.
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:26 PM   #686
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Very nice to see you back in action. Guess I started poking around NASIOC again on the right day (my STi is parked again, f***ing epilepsy). That car should be a hell of a lot of fun. What's a bugeye weigh, like 3300 lbs, so the 3900 lbs on the dyno sheet is with fluids and driver? 3300 lb car with 430 hp at the wheels? Whoooo!

I figured you had transferred the wheels from the Forester to the Bugeye and had an Enkei surprise in store for the Forester, but I guess you just have two sets of that WRX wheel now?
If you look on this page, I just updated with new results. I'll go update the first post soon. Bugeye with a 6 speed should be somewhere around that weight. The original plot was when there were 3 or 4 people in the car which is why it was so heavy. The newer log had one less person so the weight is lower.

If I were going to put Enkei's on anything, it would be the Bugeye. I'm OK with the Forester wheels that it has now. But you are correct that I now have two sets of 2011 WRX wheels. I got them both for very good prices, and I do like how they look.

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Old 06-18-2014, 12:40 PM   #687
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:51 PM   #688
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:20 PM   #689
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:27 PM   #690
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:37 PM   #691
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FINE! I am going to start doing Instagram!
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:59 PM   #692
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^ He wasn't lying, I just got a notification that he accepted my request to follow him which I may have sent over a year ago lol.
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Old 06-18-2014, 02:01 PM   #693
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Yep, had a huge pile of incoming requests. Just approved them all.
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Old 06-19-2014, 06:42 AM   #694
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Is it just me...or are you starting to have as many stickers as rose...
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Old 06-19-2014, 07:47 AM   #695
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:58 AM   #696
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Unless I'm reading it wrong, it seems like the old turbo set up is better in almost every way (based on the dynos). New set up nets ~25whp above 5500rpm and maybe 20lbft up by 6k, but at a pretty dramatic loss everywhere below the 5000. -100lbft and -100hp around 4k...
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:29 AM   #697
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Unless I'm reading it wrong, it seems like the old turbo set up is better in almost every way (based on the dynos). New set up nets ~25whp above 5500rpm and maybe 20lbft up by 6k, but at a pretty dramatic loss everywhere below the 5000. -100lbft and -100hp around 4k...
For street driving the old setup would be preferred by most people. It was a lot more responsive in the middle of the RPM range. With this setup you really do have to be up in at least the 4.5k-5k range before it starts really moving. For a drag run, this setup will be faster. More peak power, and a wide enough powerband to stay in it during shifts.
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:56 AM   #698
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Good gains. I would have guessed a bit quicker spool and higher numbers but looking at your mods, it seems like you are still running a stock header, yeah?

I see you revving her out to 8k which is awesome. I just got my engine together with similar head work and I'm working up the balls to take my revs up that high.

What kind of oil do you run and what kind of oil pressure are you seeing up to 8k on this engine? Any shims in the 11mm pump?
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:27 PM   #699
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Good gains. I would have guessed a bit quicker spool and higher numbers but looking at your mods, it seems like you are still running a stock header, yeah?

I see you revving her out to 8k which is awesome. I just got my engine together with similar head work and I'm working up the balls to take my revs up that high.

What kind of oil do you run and what kind of oil pressure are you seeing up to 8k on this engine? Any shims in the 11mm pump?
Yes, I honestly was thinking the same. I was expecting the spool to be pretty close to what it was before, and I figured power might have been a hair higher than it ended up at. But you are right that I'm still on the stock header.

Revving it to 7.5k but on the FFS (without software) it often jumps up a bit higher than that. Oil being used it Rotella T6. I'm not sure if the pump was shimmed since I bought the motor as a complete built assembly. I see around 20psi at hot idle and around 60psi cruising. Cruising pressure seems a littler lower than I've normally seen.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:39 PM   #700
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Yes, I honestly was thinking the same. I was expecting the spool to be pretty close to what it was before, and I figured power might have been a hair higher than it ended up at. But you are right that I'm still on the stock header.

Revving it to 7.5k but on the FFS (without software) it often jumps up a bit higher than that. Oil being used it Rotella T6. I'm not sure if the pump was shimmed since I bought the motor as a complete built assembly. I see around 20psi at hot idle and around 60psi cruising. Cruising pressure seems a littler lower than I've normally seen.
Does it gain any pressure by 7000-7500?

For some reason, I just cannot find good documentation on oiling and oil pressure with these engines. People's reported pressure is all over the place. Some guys seem to shim the crap out of their pumps to jack the oil pressure up but I don't know if that's right or not. There's that rule of thumb, "10 psi for every 100 rpm" so I was looking for that but that is a general rule of thumb, not subaru engine specific. Pressure and flow are related, more flow is going to be less pressure but I think flow is what is important. On a looser motor, I think lower pressure is fine. Outfront modifies the oiling system on their motors to improve flow because they say that's more important.

I feel a bit better after seeing your numbers. I'm running a 12mm pump as OF suggested, no shims (unless there was 1 in there already) and I'm on Conventional 10w-40 for now until I hit 2000 miles. When my oil gets up to 220, it hangs around 20-25 at idle and 70 psi cruising. If I'm whacking on it hard, it will get down to 60-65 psi as the oil gets hotter. I've rev'd out to 7800 a few times now it all seems well but I'm going to be a bit more gentle until I get on full synthetic oil.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what a header does on your current setup. I'm guessing quite a bit if you get around to adding one.
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