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Old 01-01-2016, 03:46 PM   #26
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Sounds good. Would love to see some pics of what you get. I may order one as well if I can get one that is 3" all the way through including the cat back flange. It appears as though the flanged version reduces to 2.5" before and including the cat back flange. Most people with an aftermarket cat back will want 3" all the way to the y. But other than that it looks like a great option for a great price.
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Old 01-01-2016, 07:38 PM   #27
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Sounds good. Would love to see some pics of what you get. I may order one as well if I can get one that is 3" all the way through including the cat back flange. It appears as though the flanged version reduces to 2.5" before and including the cat back flange. Most people with an aftermarket cat back will want 3" all the way to the y. But other than that it looks like a great option for a great price.
The way I look at it is there may be a very small restriction to my 3" cat back N1, ain't gonna be the end of the world but the cat placement is at end of jpipe so it could be a 3" through. It is vibrant 200 cell cat, price imho was very good having bought an AP, and it was my last piece of the puzzle

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Old 01-05-2016, 10:38 AM   #28
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Hey everyone, sorry for the delay! It's been crazy with the holidays, and we just switched over a completely new CRM/inventory software yesterday, so we are all fish out of water.

Anyways, I am going to speak to my engineer today as I too have a few things I want to bring up. As of now, we offer two systems:

Downpipe that necks down to the factory 2 bolt exhaust flange (for stock cat back)
Downpipe that is 3" all the way through with V-band connection for our cat back.

I want to see if we can also do a full 3" downpipe with 3" 2 bolt exhaust flange for other aftermarket cat back systems.

Let me know if that is something you guys would be looking for!
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Old 01-05-2016, 11:49 AM   #29
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How about a 3" to 3" adapter with a 3" doughnut gasket for systems that do not have a flex joint in either a jpipe or a catback? I currently have a sandwich of two GS adapters and neck it down to 2.5" to use the OEM doughnut gasket.
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Old 01-05-2016, 01:12 PM   #30
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Any pictures of the catted version, where is the cat located?
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Old 01-05-2016, 02:58 PM   #31
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I would design one j-pipe. It's a pain to find out you don't like the sound of the oem catback or aftermarket catback then have to change out the J-pipe in order to do so.
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:15 PM   #32
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Ok maybe its just me but I dont see any of YOUR products for sale on your website?


And who does your tuning and how does it all work with getting your stg2 map? Do we have to buy the Cobb AP from you and its an OTS map of yours loaded on the AP? So would the actual cobb AP contain Cobbs stg2 map and your stg2 map?


Im confused here lol
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:30 PM   #33
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Sorry your confused Maybe this will help?

http://www.maperformance.com/product...-wrx-wrx-4g-s2

http://www.maperformance.com/search?...x&type=product

You do not have to by the Accessport from us per say. The tune is included with our Stage 2 package. It's a custom tune that is emailed to you that you can load onto the Accessport. So both Cobb's OTS will still be on there. Keep in mind however, that the Cobb OTS stage 2 will NOT work with our intake.

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Ok maybe its just me but I dont see any of YOUR products for sale on your website?


And who does your tuning and how does it all work with getting your stg2 map? Do we have to buy the Cobb AP from you and its an OTS map of yours loaded on the AP? So would the actual cobb AP contain Cobbs stg2 map and your stg2 map?


Im confused here lol
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:41 PM   #34
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You results, maperformance, are from a custom tune done to your specific car. Would it not be much better for someone to just purchase the parts and then have it tuned professionally? We all know that an off the shelf tune will never be as safe and powerful and a custom tune. Even an e-tune is safer then ots maps.
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Old 01-06-2016, 07:54 PM   #35
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We all know that an off the shelf tune will never be as safe and powerful and a custom tune. Even an e-tune is safer then ots maps.
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Old 01-06-2016, 10:53 PM   #36
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You results, maperformance, are from a custom tune done to your specific car. Would it not be much better for someone to just purchase the parts and then have it tuned professionally? We all know that an off the shelf tune will never be as safe and powerful and a custom tune. Even an e-tune is safer then ots maps.
Of course a custom dyno tune or even an e-tune can net more power/torque than an OTS map. That's not the point of what MAP is doing though. They are offering a complete "plug and play" assortment of parts complete with their free OTS tune that is all made by MAP, tested by MAP and the parts work in harmony. Itís a one stop option for guys who want matched parts and a little more power over a comparable competitors parts/tune and a lot of power over stock. Sure, with an OTS tune, you leave a little power on the table. That's just how it is. If someone wants to take it farther than OTS, they are free to tune their engine how ever they want to, and they will have a free tune they can flash to get em' to the dyno cell.
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Old 01-07-2016, 06:45 AM   #37
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Any pictures of the catted version, where is the cat located?
This! Would like a picture plus a sound clip with your catted jpipe and cat back exhaust. Also, you need a heat shield on your intake ASAP.

So far, your exhaust clip on YouTube is the only one I'm interested in. Hope to do business with you guys soon.
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What do you think Cobb does? Same way their OTS maps are developed. Yes, it was tuned on my personal car, but its still safe enough to run anywhere. I have hundreds of people running our Stage 1 map with great success. If by any chance a customer runs into any tuning issues, they are handled promptly by us. Will you squeeze 5-10whp with a pro tune? Maybe. But we are trying to provide a package for a customer to purchase the desired parts, flash the car, and go. No need to set up a dyno apt, or back and forth E-tuning.

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Old 01-07-2016, 10:07 AM   #39
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I will get some as soon as possible. The cat will be located at the end of the mid-pipe right before the exhaust flange for the cat-back.

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Hes saying that Custom tunes are dialed into YOUR CAR and your car only. And etunes are done be emailing someone the tune, they then upload the tune and do logs and send them back to the tuner, he adjust the tune and sends it back.

OTS maps (off the shelf maps) are what cobb uploads on their access port and people plug those in and upload the map to their car....stage 1 or stage 2. These kinda maps are made for EVERYONE all over north america. So no matter if you live in Florida or Denver, you get the same map put on your car.

So YES, a pro tune is actually better because its your car on the dyno, the tuner is sitting in the driver seat and changing the timing, fueling, knock etc for YOUR car, hope that helps you understand better.
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Hes saying that Custom tunes are dialed into YOUR CAR and your car only. And etunes are done be emailing someone the tune, they then upload the tune and do logs and send them back to the tuner, he adjust the tune and sends it back.

OTS maps (off the shelf maps) are what cobb uploads on their access port and people plug those in and upload the map to their car....stage 1 or stage 2. These kinda maps are made for EVERYONE all over north america. So no matter if you live in Florida or Denver, you get the same map put on your car.

So YES, a pro tune is actually better because its your car on the dyno, the tuner is sitting in the driver seat and changing the timing, fueling, knock etc for YOUR car, hope that helps you understand better.
my lolwut was directed at the safety comment. cobb is not in the business of blowing up engines. are we really having this OTS vs protune conversation again? maperformance has already responded.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:07 PM   #42
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What do you think Cobb does? Same way their OTS maps are developed. Yes, it was tuned on my personal car, but its still safe enough to run anywhere. I have hundreds of people running our Stage 1 map with great success. If by any chance a customer runs into any tuning issues, they are handled promptly by us. Will you squeeze 5-10whp with a pro tune? Maybe. But we are trying to provide a package for a customer to purchase the desired parts, flash the car, and go. No need to set up a dyno apt, or back and forth E-tuning.
After having my first AP stolen I decided to buy my next AP from MAPerformance so I could test their included tune and service out. I am currently running their 91 Stage 1 tune on my car with just and aftermarket cbe, car runs excellent and logs are great. I originally was running their 93 tune using WA St 92 octane, it was pretty good but I had a little more knock thank I wanted. Once they released their 91 tune logs became even better and have been no issue

MAP is an excellent option for those wanting to run a better ots type MAP than Cobbs stage 1 or 2. By purchasing MAP parts you get a bonus tune and competetive pricing imho.

I have ordered their catted downpipe can't wait to receive it. Once I get the dp I will be given their stage 2 91 tune utilizing factory boost control. I love this, it gives me the time to install the balance of my parts which aren't supported with their tune until I get around to pro tuning locally . Its a nice way to test the car and run it with full tbe and move up a notch in power.
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I know its new on the 15 WRX, but where is this "grounding strap" that's located by the Jpipe?.....can someone point it out in these pics? It doesn't appear that MAP welded on a nut to the Jpipe to attach it. I dont understand why some companies dont weld on a nut......its not hard to do. And NO, I don't wanna re-attach it somewhere else like Cobb says to. Keep it the way its supposed to be






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I know its new on the 15 WRX, but where is this "grounding strap" that's located by the Jpipe?.....can someone point it out in these pics? It doesn't appear that MAP welded on a nut to the Jpipe to attach it. I dont understand why some companies dont weld on a nut......its not hard to do. And NO, I don't wanna re-attach it somewhere else like Cobb says to. Keep it the way its supposed to be






Since the pipe is grounded to the engine is it "really" necessary or needed?

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Idk...if a factory ground is put in then I would like to keep it. Some have said they've ran into issues with it not being hooked up.
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I understand what you are saying. I personally have not had a single issue what soever. I will maybe verify with my engineer if we need to add a bolt for these moving forward.

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Old 01-08-2016, 12:31 PM   #47
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Since the pipe is grounded to the engine is it "really" necessary or needed? If you must have it then you will need to fab something up if it is uber imp to you and you want to buy their offering. Don't think I will be bothered...
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Idk...if a factory ground is put in then I would like to keep it. Some have said they've ran into issues with it not being hooked up.
I'm going to have to agree with shamrock on this one. It was important enough for Subaru engineers to have it in place and I'm not inclined to think otherwise. I think I've read in the past air moving through the exhaust create minor static charge and the ground strap dissipates it. Regardless, if it's not there, I'd find a way to have one installed.
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Bren Tuning seems to think the exhaust grounding connection is vital...

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We have seem some funky issues with cars that don't have the ground strap attached. If you have a pipe without the option, simply weld a nut on and reattach the strap. 2 cars without the strap attached have backfed via our Wideband and shorted our dyno out requiring a VERY expensive board replacement.

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I must say, I do agree With Shamrock that after paying hundreds of dollars for these overpriced exhaust pieces, you'd think they would at least come with the proper bolt to allow for reinstallation of what Subaru seems to think is an important grounding piece.

This is the only gripe I have with my COBB J Pipe, as well.
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I think its a valid request. I am going to see if we can't just add that for production.

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Bren Tuning made mention of a car that was missing this ground connection and claimed it caused issues with their dyno, resulting in an expensive repair.

I must say, I do agree With Shamrock that after paying hundreds of dollars for these overpriced exhaust pieces, you'd think they would at least come with the proper bolt to allow for reinstallation of what Subaru seems to think is an important grounding piece.

This is the only gripe I have with my COBB J Pipe, as well.
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I think its a valid request. I am going to see if we can't just add that for production.
See if one can find its way on to my recently ordered pipe then
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