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Old 03-18-2016, 05:12 PM   #1
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Old 03-18-2016, 05:19 PM   #2
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I like the plain as much as I enjoy nice weld work. But do you know... I've broken 2 of these that was from PW... I have no idea why. They sent a replacement after the first broke. I didn't bother letting them know after the second one broke as I feel it must be something up with my mounts. It keeps breaking where you bolt it to the altenator. Any idea what would cause this? Before I buy anything else I need to figure it out!

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Old 03-18-2016, 05:34 PM   #3
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I like the plane as much as I enjoy nice weld work. But do you know... I've broken 2 of these that was from PW... I have no idea why. They sent a replacement after the first broke. I didn't bother letting them know after the second one broke as I feel it must be something up with my mounts. It keeps breaking where you bolt it to the starter. Any idea what would cause this? Before I buy anything else I need to figure it out!
Could be any number of reasons; materials, design, bad batch how it's manufactured, etc...?

This part is pretty robust and no issues so far
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Old 03-18-2016, 07:45 PM   #4
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Is there a reason you didn't cover the whole top part of the intake manifold back to the intercooler?
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:05 PM   #5
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let it be offered in black and I'll order one
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Old 03-18-2016, 08:11 PM   #6
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I like both.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:12 PM   #7
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Not crazy about it being so small. I wish it would cover the ugly plastic intake manifold to be honest. Torque solution has one that covers quite a bit, but not the manifold. But everyone's opinion will be different.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:42 PM   #8
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First, stock is perfect. Perfectly engineered, that is.

Second, anyone who removes their engine cover, unless they've gone FMIC, is ill-informed and stupid. Even the STi and WRX that had no engine cover had ductwork engineered correctly for the TMIC. But to just ditch the '15+ engine cover, and not make similar ducting solutions? Stupid.

So, while I have always held KillerB engineering in the highest regard?... to cater to this level of "mod" is out of context with that image.

That said, were I somehow to want such a "protective" cover for the belts... and had made such TMIC ducting provisions, it would be different from the ones shown. There is no red like the STi, only black plastic in the WRX. Maybe if the owner has other KillerB products and wants to advertise that... a cover with that name cut out and offered in anodized black or SS.
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Second, anyone who removes their engine cover, unless they've gone FMIC, is ill-informed and stupid. Even the STi and WRX that had no engine cover had ductwork engineered correctly for the TMIC. But to just ditch the '15+ engine cover, and not make similar ducting solutions? Stupid.
I removed mine, I honestly don't think it serves a purpose what-so-ever.
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Old 03-18-2016, 11:44 PM   #10
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The engine cover definitely serves a purpose. It directs air into the TMIC. Without it air can and will go around the intercooler, which will reduce its cooling effectiveness.

We need new ductwork.
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Old 03-19-2016, 12:05 AM   #11
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Unless you're running PW Verticooler (which requires removing the engine cover) ... As it replaces all the ducting and funnels directly into the core. I'm also sure on paper removing the engine cover will show changes but in actual real world observations.... You'd probably barely, if it all notice a difference....
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Old 03-19-2016, 12:28 AM   #12
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The engine cover definitely serves a purpose. It directs air into the TMIC. Without it air can and will go around the intercooler, which will reduce its cooling effectiveness.

We need new ductwork.
I could see it doing that if you drive with the hood open otherwise the hood scoop is what directs the air to the intercooler. The air will regardless go through the intercooler as below it is the lowest pressure drop.

Having the engine cover on probably increases performance as much as the weight of the cover itself decreases it. Also it's cold where I live.

It's just engine dress up.
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First, stock is perfect. Perfectly engineered, that is.
Except they break after removing them X amount of times, lol. I've got through 2 so far. This is with be VERY careful during removal and even applying some light grease on the rubber grommets.

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I removed mine, I honestly don't think it serves a purpose what-so-ever.
It definitely does. I would never remove it without providing another solution for air ducting.

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The engine cover definitely serves a purpose. It directs air into the TMIC. Without it air can and will go around the intercooler, which will reduce its cooling effectiveness.

We need new ductwork.
^ This. Air follows the path of least resistance. So if you've removed your ducting, air will mostly go around the restriction (TMIC).

I really didn't want to leak this as it has too many other things in the image, but you can see there are lots of easy free options with the factory piece...

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Not crazy about it being so small. I wish it would cover the ugly plastic intake manifold to be honest. Torque solution has one that covers quite a bit, but not the manifold. But everyone's opinion will be different.
Everyone sees things differently. You see ugly plastic manifold. I see advanced engineering design and manufacturing being utilized.
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:37 AM   #15
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Except they break after removing them X amount of times, lol. I've got through 2 so far. This is with be VERY careful during removal and even applying some light grease on the rubber grommets.



It definitely does. I would never remove it without providing another solution for air ducting.



^ This. Air follows the path of least resistance. So if you've removed your ducting, air will mostly go around the restriction (TMIC).

I really didn't want to leak this as it has too many other things in the image, but you can see there are lots of easy free options with the factory piece...

Thank you for that "leakage." Now you're talking.

And, it refines my opinion... make the new cover black, thus contextual, and it all makes sense.

Any question I may have momentarily had about KillerB... is no more. Just don't do that again withholding that is.
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Except they break after removing them X amount of times, lol. I've got through 2 so far. This is with be VERY careful during removal and even applying some light grease on the rubber grommets.







It definitely does. I would never remove it without providing another solution for air ducting.







^ This. Air follows the path of least resistance. So if you've removed your ducting, air will mostly go around the restriction (TMIC).



I really didn't want to leak this as it has too many other things in the image, but you can see there are lots of easy free options with the factory piece...




Good idea. I might do something similar when my other tab breaks. Then I will need a pulley cover. I like the design with the welds but my only concern is that over time those weld spots will oxidize and look rusty?

Where'd you get that AOS? That looks different.

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The pw piece broke on me as well, the metal they choose is just too thin.
I like the general design of the piece but wish it covered things more
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Old 03-19-2016, 08:48 PM   #18
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Where'd you get that AOS? That looks different.
This thing? Yeah, don't tell anyone about this. Top Secret!!

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Any idea on when you'll be offering that aftercooler duct? I bought your charge pipe/aftercooler during your original group buy and don't care for using the factory engine cover with it.

I also think a black pulley cover to match a black aftercooler duct would look great!
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^ The duct in that picture? That is a modified OEM engine cover
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^ The duct in that picture? That is a modified OEM engine cover
Ha! I at first was thinking it might be, but it looks like metal in the pic. Is it fastened anywhere in front of the aftercooler? Any plans to make and sell one so we don't have to cut up our stock cover?
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:09 PM   #22
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I personally liked the old design of the ones you made for the ej motor. I would like to see something like that. I have the Mishimoto tmic and had to remove my engine cover and would like to put something in that spot.
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I'd buy it, looks good to me! Of course i would wait to buy this until I get my Verticooler, which of course PW and grimmspeed make their own ducting to go with an aftermarket TMIC.
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I like the small simple design. I have a front mount and have wanted something to cover just the pulleys. The torqued solutions pulley cover is to big for my taste.
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Is it fastened anywhere in front of the aftercooler? Any plans to make and sell one so we don't have to cut up our stock cover?
Nothing on the front. At first I thought about designing a clip or something, but with it trimmed down the two rear clips hold it in place just fine. Vertically it sits right on the front face of the core as it normally would. My point here is I don't know what adding any fastening would add to it? once the hood is closed it's squeezed between the engine and rubber seal anyway.

My guess is, with more aftermarket products coming on the market you will see used engine covers cheap... Very cheap... Especially ones with the front tabs busted that can be used to trim or modify.

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I'd buy it, looks good to me! Of course i would wait to buy this until I get my Verticooler, which of course PW and grimmspeed make their own ducting to go with an aftermarket TMIC.
I looked into a TMIC shroud/duct. To make a nice CF piece is really expensive. With metal/plastic it's still pricey for what it is. Retaining the stock engine cover reduced the cost of admission for our Aftercooler, which as many of you know, is already a very expensive piece. The other great thing about the factory shroud/duct, is that it works really well, plus free


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I like the small simple design. I have a front mount and have wanted something to cover just the pulleys. The torqued solutions pulley cover is to big for my taste.
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