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Old 12-01-2017, 10:00 AM   #301
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I drove a Ď16 Impreza when we were car shopping for my wife and that CVT was terrible. Iíve always preferred geared trannyís. My personal car is a 07 Speed6 GT since Iím a stout believer in manuals as well and donít mind driving one in traffic. My wife isnít as impressed with manuals though lol. Mazda is currently killing it with there compact CUVís my parents got a Ď17 CX5 I was very impressed with that, right now they have my eye for her next vehicle. That and the new Tiguan... if the fozzy turbo had a regular tranny I would be interested in that, the one I test drove with the CVT didnít impress me at all...
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:59 AM   #302
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Wait wait wait, did you say driving pleasure and CVT in the same sentence?

Cause buzzy slushbox CVT’s aren’t exactly pleasurable in any way...

I would only buy one if they dropped a turbo engine in it, with a 6 speed manual...
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Drive the '18 and report back, they are two different cars. I guarantee you will be impressed, especially if you like your crosstrek now. See if you can go from a 36 to 24 in the meantime, delaying your truck purchase just 1 year instead of 2.

The new CVT is not buzzy anymore. Yes, it's a new version that actually behaves well. It's quiet and much more responsive to throttle inputs. Me, a stout manual guy, has one in his '17 Impreza. Why? Because commuter and traffic. I have other cars with manuals in them, including the one I pick up next week. If you haven't driven the new '17 Impreza or '18 Crosstrek with it in it, go do yourself a favor and try it. Can't help the turbo request though... because that's WRX. These cars have plenty of get up and go that I don't really "miss" the power.

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Csleeper, you're living in the past. New 2018 Crosstrek, new platform, new CVT, new engine, new interior, very different than previous gen and other older Subies. Subaru hit a home run with this one, no question. They are selling as many as they can make, and supply is actually their biggest problem (for their Limited w/EyeSight trims). Had to wait 2 months for mine, and heard that new orders can be into Feb now for certain trims/color.

And yup, this thing is a true joy to drive. The truck I sold to buy this Crosstrek had 440 ft/lbs torque. But I could never make use of the power unless I didn't mind acting like a dork on the road. And it drove like crap (lots of sway around corners), and used about 4 times the amount of gas of my Crosstrek. It is not all about power when it comes to driving pleasure, as long as it is adequate. And the Crosstrek is more than adequate, especially with that new responsive CVT.

If power is the only thing that gives you your jollies, then buy a WRX. But you won't get the luxurious ride or off road capability of the Crosstrek. Each to his own...
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Old 12-01-2017, 12:41 PM   #303
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Thanks for the review, especially the power part.
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:09 PM   #304
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If power is the only thing that gives you your jollies, then buy a WRX. But you won't get the luxurious ride or off road capability of the Crosstrek. Each to his own...
Nor the same CVT that's in the '17+ Impreza/'18+ Crosstrek. It's still the older design.

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Old 12-01-2017, 05:00 PM   #305
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Nor the same CVT that's in the '17+ Impreza/'18+ Crosstrek. It's still the older design.

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.....with an updated tune to pair better with the updated engine.....
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:12 PM   #306
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.....with an updated tune to pair better with the updated engine.....
It's all relative right. Because it's either better or the same. Can't get worse in the CVT egg basket.
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Old 12-01-2017, 05:43 PM   #307
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It's all relative right. Because it's either better or the same. Can't get worse in the CVT egg basket.

Right. They obviously tweak it whenever they can do an improvement. Now, they have "changed" the "same" transmission a bit though. The current one(2nd gen) IS the "same" as when it first came out; but, they have done some internal mechanical tweaks. Not just programming. The Ascent's I am going to say is a "new" one. Meaning more new parts or what have you.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:20 PM   #308
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Csleeper, you're living in the past. New 2018 Crosstrek, new platform, new CVT, new engine, new interior, very different than previous gen and other older Subies. Subaru hit a home run with this one, no question. They are selling as many as they can make, and supply is actually their biggest problem (for their Limited w/EyeSight trims). Had to wait 2 months for mine, and heard that new orders can be into Feb now for certain trims/color.

And yup, this thing is a true joy to drive. The truck I sold to buy this Crosstrek had 440 ft/lbs torque. But I could never make use of the power unless I didn't mind acting like a dork on the road. And it drove like crap (lots of sway around corners), and used about 4 times the amount of gas of my Crosstrek. It is not all about power when it comes to driving pleasure, as long as it is adequate. And the Crosstrek is more than adequate, especially with that new responsive CVT.

If power is the only thing that gives you your jollies, then buy a WRX. But you won't get the luxurious ride or off road capability of the Crosstrek. Each to his own...


I️ really like dual clutch trannyís a lot for autoís. VWís have that down pat in there GTI and R. But the GTI is FWD and I️ live in the Adirondack mountains of northern NY, and the DSG Golf R is a hair more then I️ want to spend on a vehicle at this point in my life. I️ didnít know they had updated the tranny since I️ drove the 2016, which didnít leave a good impression...

Guess Iíll have to test one to see how it actually is. Still the CX5 has my attention, especially if they dropped the new 250 hp 2.5 turbo in it!
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Old 12-02-2017, 12:08 AM   #309
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I️ really like dual clutch trannyís a lot for autoís. VWís have that down pat in there GTI and R. But the GTI is FWD and I️ live in the Adirondack mountains of northern NY, and the DSG Golf R is a hair more then I️ want to spend on a vehicle at this point in my life. I️ didnít know they had updated the tranny since I️ drove the 2016, which didnít leave a good impression...

Guess Iíll have to test one to see how it actually is. Still the CX5 has my attention, especially if they dropped the new 250 hp 2.5 turbo in it!

If your bad impression is the CVT, then you won't like the '17 either. If you bad impression was the car and the way it drove, it is possible you can like the '17. They are considerably different.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:13 AM   #310
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I drove a ‘16 Impreza when we were car shopping for my wife and that CVT was terrible. I’ve always preferred geared tranny’s. My personal car is a 07 Speed6 GT since I’m a stout believer in manuals as well and don’t mind driving one in traffic. My wife isn’t as impressed with manuals though lol. Mazda is currently killing it with there compact CUV’s my parents got a ‘17 CX5 I was very impressed with that, right now they have my eye for her next vehicle. That and the new Tiguan... if the fozzy turbo had a regular tranny I would be interested in that, the one I test drove with the CVT didn’t impress me at all...
I hated the 2016 Impreza CVT, and don't like the one in our 2012 Outback.

However, I did like the one in the new Civic, it feels like a modern automatic. I probably would have bought it but the 6MT was also nice and cheaper. I haven't driven the new Impreza, but I'm sure that one's much better. Technology keeps rolling on.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:18 AM   #311
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Me likey my 17 Impreza CVT, but I was also fine with the previous gen CVT, so probably not saying much.
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Old 12-03-2017, 05:52 PM   #312
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If your bad impression is the CVT, then you won't like the '17 either. If you bad impression was the car and the way it drove, it is possible you can like the '17. They are considerably different.


The car itself drove decent, power was lackluster but handling wasnít bad at all. Road noise was better then what I️ expect for that level vehicle. Just not a fan of how a CVT drives overall, no matter the car
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I hated the 2016 Impreza CVT, and don't like the one in our 2012 Outback.

However, I did like the one in the new Civic, it feels like a modern automatic. I probably would have bought it but the 6MT was also nice and cheaper. I haven't driven the new Impreza, but I'm sure that one's much better. Technology keeps rolling on.


Havenít driven a new civic so I️ canít speak for that one...

Audi dropped thereís in the a4 as well. Only a 8 speed auto or 6 speed manual are options now.

Im interested in the golf all-track for her next car too. Since we currently lease a 16 Tiguan I️ think theyíll be willing to deal to keep our business. Mazda has my interest the most by sheís loves her VWís
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:42 AM   #314
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I can confirm the refinement of the '18 Crosstrek. Traded my '15 for it right before Thanksgiving. I just returned from a road trip from southeast Georgia-Michigan-Cleveland(Ray's!)-and back. Break in completed and was able to drive in many conditions. I have Ice Silver, which I think "shows off" the exterior best. It looks good just sitting.

Power delivery is much better, too. Engine feels smoother, which makes it feel more powerful for some reason. I know like 2hp, ha! Steering and body roll are fixed from the previous years, imo. Driving through Detroit will definitely test your suspension and this thing just ate it up. I was a little concerned since the last time I was in my '04 wrx and winced a lot!

On my last fill up my trip meter was at 467 miles. Highway driving with some mountains and flats. I also had my wife, luggage, cooler, bike, jackets, and some other stuff all fit in the back with seats down. Did not block the rear window, either.

I tinted the front windows, and other than that plan to get a hitch.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:15 AM   #315
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I can confirm the refinement of the '18 Crosstrek. Traded my '15 for it right before Thanksgiving. I just returned from a road trip from southeast Georgia-Michigan-Cleveland(Ray's!)-and back. Break in completed and was able to drive in many conditions. I have Ice Silver, which I think "shows off" the exterior best. It looks good just sitting.

Power delivery is much better, too. Engine feels smoother, which makes it feel more powerful for some reason. I know like 2hp, ha! Steering and body roll are fixed from the previous years, imo. Driving through Detroit will definitely test your suspension and this thing just ate it up. I was a little concerned since the last time I was in my '04 wrx and winced a lot!

On my last fill up my trip meter was at 467 miles. Highway driving with some mountains and flats. I also had my wife, luggage, cooler, bike, jackets, and some other stuff all fit in the back with seats down. Did not block the rear window, either.

I tinted the front windows, and other than that plan to get a hitch.
Sounds like you really having a great experience with your new 18 Crosstrek. It is a lovely car. I have the 17 Impreza Sport. As you know the 18 Crosstrek shares the new Global Platform of the 17 Impreza which is the best platform to date imo. Its great you getting such great mileage being all loaded up. The Sport fairs well on gas being it being a manual. I wish you best of luck with many more Crosstrek ventures to come.
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I have only had my new Crosstrek for a very short time, but the more I drive it, the more I love it. This is the best driving vehicle I have ever had, bar none, and I have had many, from fast, luxury, truck, econo box, you name it... This thing is not only a very nice refined ride, but have really got to appreciate the intuitive interior controls, everything works just like you would want. Power is surprisingly good, given all the bad reviews. A lot of the credit has to be given to the new CVT. It is very responsive, and smooth. For around town and moderate acceleration, feels like a more powerful car. And would not want to compromise the excellent fuel consumption with a bigger engine in this car.

Subaru really put it all together with this new car. Could be a good sign for things to come with the new Ascent and 2019 Forester.
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I may pick up a Crosstrek for my next ride as well. I really like the newer design a lot. We are a one income family now so it would be advisable not to buy another 50k dollar car. The main car I am crossshopping this against is the GTI. One is more useful, one is more fun. The never ending battle between usefullness and fun.
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I may pick up a Crosstrek for my next ride as well. I really like the newer design a lot. We are a one income family now so it would be advisable not to buy another 50k dollar car. The main car I am crossshopping this against is the GTI. One is more useful, one is more fun. The never ending battle between usefullness and fun.
Depends on your "fun".

A fellow firefighter buddy of mine(happens to be an extrication expert which is one reason he went with Subaru), says his Crosstrek is more capable than the Jeep Liberty he had(I was like,....duh). His fun is offroad. He's told me it's done everything he's asked it to do soo far. So, if you get a Crosstrek, you can explore that side of it. I'm sure you've got PLENTY of street fun. How much off street fun do you have?
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true, I have never really looked for fun offroad trails in the suburbs.. LOL... But the reason the crosstrek is in the running is 8.7" of ground clearance for a daily is NICE! No curb/speedbump worries ever.
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I really like seeing the new Crosstrek driving around. Kinda wish I could've waited a month to check it out before getting the Impreza, just to see if the ride would've swayed me.
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Depends on your "fun".

A fellow firefighter buddy of mine(happens to be an extrication expert which is one reason he went with Subaru), says his Crosstrek is more capable than the Jeep Liberty he had(I was like,....duh). His fun is offroad. He's told me it's done everything he's asked it to do soo far. So, if you get a Crosstrek, you can explore that side of it. I'm sure you've got PLENTY of street fun. How much off street fun do you have?
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true, I have never really looked for fun offroad trails in the suburbs.. LOL... But the reason the crosstrek is in the running is 8.7" of ground clearance for a daily is NICE! No curb/speedbump worries ever.

Oh....and that is the old Crosstrek. Not the SGP Crosstrek.
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I can confirm the refinement of the '18 Crosstrek. Traded my '15 for it right before Thanksgiving. I just returned from a road trip from southeast Georgia-Michigan-Cleveland(Ray's!)-and back. Break in completed and was able to drive in many conditions. I have Ice Silver, which I think "shows off" the exterior best. It looks good just sitting.

Power delivery is much better, too. Engine feels smoother, which makes it feel more powerful for some reason. I know like 2hp, ha! Steering and body roll are fixed from the previous years, imo. Driving through Detroit will definitely test your suspension and this thing just ate it up. I was a little concerned since the last time I was in my '04 wrx and winced a lot!

On my last fill up my trip meter was at 467 miles. Highway driving with some mountains and flats. I also had my wife, luggage, cooler, bike, jackets, and some other stuff all fit in the back with seats down. Did not block the rear window, either.

I tinted the front windows, and other than that plan to get a hitch.
The engine is 80% new and it has DI which makes a difference add the new 7 speed CVT and it is a good combo. My only issue with both Impreza and CT is loaded up in limited config it tops 30k+. At that point I think it loses the value game
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When you can get a GTI for 21k, a 30k Crosstrek is a bit harder to swallow
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When you can get a GTI for 21k, a 30k Crosstrek is a bit harder to swallow
Only for buyers who need their hands held when it comes to life priorities. If someone can't choose between two completely different vehicles for two completely purposes as the GTI vs the Crosstrek, that someone needs to retake their driver's license test.
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When you can get a GTI for 21k, a 30k Crosstrek is a bit harder to swallow
That's what she said. Lol. To be fair the GTI and Crosstrek can't be compared. Just went on the VW site and the Golf AllTrack would be best comparison for the Crosstrek. The AllTrack has AWD and is also a wagon/hatchback and starts at $25,850 base price.
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