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Old 04-13-2018, 09:28 PM   #26
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Somebody got put in the friend-zone.
I actually laughed out loud at that
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Old 04-14-2018, 06:34 PM   #27
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Does this mean it will have the new RA's strengthened pistons?
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Old 04-14-2018, 06:49 PM   #28
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Does this mean it will have the new RA's strengthened pistons?
It would have to in order to handle that kind of horsepower increase.
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:16 PM   #29
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:35 PM   #30
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That is so confusing to read. Is he your boy i.e. your friend. Is he a boy who is also your friend. Is he your significant other? Have you not defined the relationship?

I am SO CONFUSED

Yawn. Don’t quit your day job. “He is one of my boys”, that means one of my friends. Some people take it to mean you’re talking about your own kid. You’ll do better at your next job.
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Old 04-14-2018, 09:37 PM   #31
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I have only girls.
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:38 AM   #32
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It would have to in order to handle that kind of horsepower increase.
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Old 04-15-2018, 03:05 PM   #33
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Yawn. Donít quit your day job. ďMy boy (friend)Ē, that means one of my friends. Some people take it to mean youíre talking about your own kid. Youíll do better at your next job.
I corrected your statement to the actual wording. You night want to reread what you wrote, before jumping on 'Don't quit your day job'. What you wrote is ambiguous and confusing. Initially I was thinking 'I didn't realize Pre is a woman.'
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Old 04-15-2018, 03:39 PM   #34
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There are many on this forum hoping to see significantly more performance with the next gen WRX/STI. And we all know Subaru is planning to come out with EVs in 2021 or 2022. So here is a question to consider.

Would you prefer a 4 sec 0-60 mph non-EV Subaru sports car, or a 2 sec 0-60 EV Subaru sports car?
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Old 04-15-2018, 05:12 PM   #35
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There are many on this forum hoping to see significantly more performance with the next gen WRX/STI. And we all know Subaru is planning to come out with EVs in 2021 or 2022. So here is a question to consider.

Would you prefer a 4 sec 0-60 mph non-EV Subaru sports car, or a 2 sec 0-60 EV Subaru sports car?
I personally would prefer non-EV. I love the STi because of its character.

I also thing that a 2-second EV car is going to push the STi into a whole new price bracket and would alienate a lot of people who have interest in them
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:42 PM   #36
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I corrected your statement to the actual wording. You night want to reread what you wrote, before jumping on 'Don't quit your day job'. What you wrote is ambiguous and confusing. Initially I was thinking 'I didn't realize Pre is a woman.'
Over analyzing at itsí finest. I didnít know we were at the doctoral thesis level here on the forums.
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Old 04-16-2018, 12:08 AM   #37
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Over analyzing at itsí finest. I didnít know we were at the doctoral thesis level here on the forums.
Now you do.
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:02 AM   #38
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I personally would prefer non-EV. I love the STi because of its character.

I also think that a 2-second EV car is going to push the STi into a whole new price bracket and would alienate a lot of people who have interest in them
Yeah, don't expect to see a lot of EV lovers here. But for pure performance, EV will be taking over, I'm sure, and not that far off in the future... I think the S has really started something... And the price will come down.

I just wonder when, and with what, Subaru will join that party. Maybe better sooner, than later.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:01 AM   #39
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All this EV talk but no CVT talk.
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:01 AM   #40
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If you have driven the STI and the WRX you will understand how the dual direct injection system really punches torque in bottom range so the 5 more HP is just icing on a nice cake. Especially if they stay with 2.5 L in STI.
You are aware that the newer WRX's have a completely different header / turbo layout, right? The low-end response they provide is not solely from direct injection. Yeah that helps, but most of the response is the fact that exhaust gases have significantly less distance to travel before they start spinning up the turbocharger. When you crack the throttle that pressure wave meets the turbine wheel almost immediately vs. around the bend and up the hill in the EJ motors.
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You are aware that the newer WRX's have a completely different header / turbo layout, right? The low-end response they provide is not solely from direct injection. Yeah that helps, but most of the response is the fact that exhaust gases have significantly less distance to travel before they start spinning up the turbocharger. When you crack the throttle that pressure wave meets the turbine wheel almost immediately vs. around the bend and up the hill in the EJ motors.

I am guessing the DI help but I agree some that is from the low mount turbo. The 5th Gen Legacy EJ25 received the low mount turbo and they have noticeably better low end torque than the EJ WRX or STI.
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:43 PM   #42
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I am guessing the DI help but I agree some that is from the low mount turbo. The 5th Gen Legacy EJ25 received the low mount turbo and they have noticeably better low end torque than the EJ WRX or STI.

Not just noticeably. Pretty much completely different. Still remember the rush of that first drive at (then) Miller Motorsports Park during training. Thrashed an '09 around the track, then got in the '10. LOADS of fun. Couldn't fathom why they didn't put that in the WRX(or STI for that matter).
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Not just noticeably. Pretty much completely different. Still remember the rush of that first drive at (then) Miller Motorsports Park during training. Thrashed an '09 around the track, then got in the '10. LOADS of fun. Couldn't fathom why they didn't put that in the WRX(or STI for that matter).
Did any rally program run that setup? Could have had something to do with it back then. I think Subaru switched to that setup to make the powerband more linear for the typical older Legacy GT buyer. Which turned out to be few and far between.
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Not just noticeably. Pretty much completely different. Still remember the rush of that first drive at (then) Miller Motorsports Park during training. Thrashed an '09 around the track, then got in the '10. LOADS of fun. Couldn't fathom why they didn't put that in the WRX(or STI for that matter).

I own one so I know. I havenít owned a WRX or STI so my only experience is test drives and as a passenger.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:42 PM   #45
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Did any rally program run that setup? Could have had something to do with it back then. I think Subaru switched to that setup to make the powerband more linear for the typical older Legacy GT buyer. Which turned out to be few and far between.
Not that I was aware of; but, that doesn't mean squat. I would think not though just for longevity of the turbo. Being soo low. They have to put a protection plate down there now and that would just add weight as I am sure they'd have to put more protection on a rally car over the standard plate that is under there.

As for the LGT. I personally think they killed it off(perhaps on purpose) by making it manual only. Then order only. I would have loved to drive the auto version of it. Not sure at all why they didn't bring it stateside. We could hardly move '09 and older manual LGTs. People mostly wanted the auto.
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Not just noticeably. Pretty much completely different. Still remember the rush of that first drive at (then) Miller Motorsports Park during training. Thrashed an '09 around the track, then got in the '10. LOADS of fun. Couldn't fathom why they didn't put that in the WRX(or STI for that matter).
Itís now Utah Motorsports Campus. Thatís where the Ford Performance school is and where the RS Adrenaline Academy operates. Just went.
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Old 04-16-2018, 11:11 PM   #47
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hey subaru where's our 2.9 twin turbo 6 cyclinder?
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Old 04-17-2018, 12:28 AM   #48
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Doesn’t the FA20DIT use a twin scroll?
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Doesnít the FA20DIT use a twin scroll?
Yes it does.
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I am guessing the DI help but I agree some that is from the low mount turbo. The 5th Gen Legacy EJ25 received the low mount turbo and they have noticeably better low end torque than the EJ WRX or STI.
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Couldn't fathom why they didn't put that in the WRX(or STI for that matter).
The 5th Gen Legacy GT EJ255's have a slot in the intake cam to drive the scavenge pump for the low mount turbo. The STI intake cams also have this slot, so I wonder if Subaru was thinking about adding a low mount turbo. From what I understand the cams of the other variations of the EJ255 do not have this slot.
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