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Old 09-02-2018, 09:06 PM   #1
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I ordered a ceramic coat bottle and was curious.. is it realistic to spread out the process over a week while using the car to commute?

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Monday..Wash car and ironX and claybar.
Tuesday.. ONR front panels only, dry panels.. polish with DA, spray IPA, ceramic coat.
Wednesday.. same as above but one side..
Thursday.. same as above but other side
Friday... same as above but backside and roof.

If I use a new applicator microfiber each day, should be fine, right?

Car has 1100 miles so not much correction to do...
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Old 09-02-2018, 10:23 PM   #2
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Thats how im handling things right now im still newb with the 7424 and 10 year old paint my second time trying to make the car look good i noticed its way to warm to do the correction when its to hot.

So far ive been through the rear end and the hood in the last two weeks had to stop at the fenders.
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Old 09-02-2018, 11:17 PM   #3
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what product are you using? if its one of the more permanent ones, I wouldnt stretch it out, but if its one of the ones that lasts like a year or 2, eh it doenst matter so much.
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Yes if that will work for you if you. If some reason you go a day without after polish just check the panel for any contamination
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:44 PM   #5
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what product are you using? if its one of the more permanent ones, I wouldnt stretch it out, but if its one of the ones that lasts like a year or 2, eh it doenst matter so much.
Carpro cquartz uk 3.0

I was going to spread out the polishing portion too since its the final decontamination step.. but now im wondering if that will make a mess out of my polishing pads..
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:13 PM   #6
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Carpro cquartz uk 3.0

I was going to spread out the polishing portion too since its the final decontamination step.. but now im wondering if that will make a mess out of my polishing pads..
I would do the polishing all in one day if you can, and then with in a few days I would use the catpro reload and then do the UK,
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:14 PM   #7
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I have used quartz uk several times myself.
With a new 2019 I d say DA polishing is OK but will go very quick as not much too correct.
That whole project takes a few hours at most.
I d set aside one day and do it all.
The coating also goes very quick.
Too me all the set up and cleanup is a lot of wasted time.
Don t expect the coating too last a year or more either FYI. It will look good but you ll see the diminished beading esp on the sides faster than you will expect.
White is also super easy and forgiving.
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Old 09-03-2018, 04:09 PM   #8
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I have used quartz uk several times myself.
With a new 2019 I d say DA polishing is OK but will go very quick as not much too correct.
That whole project takes a few hours at most.
I d set aside one day and do it all.
The coating also goes very quick.
Too me all the set up and cleanup is a lot of wasted time.
Don t expect the coating too last a year or more either FYI. It will look good but you ll see the diminished beading esp on the sides faster than you will expect.
White is also super easy and forgiving.
I have used a couple of different products and the uk I think sets really quick and its not as forgiving as the regular c quartz stuff. So yeah, do one panel at a time that would be my sugestion
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I have used a couple of different products and the uk I think sets really quick and its not as forgiving as the regular c quartz stuff. So yeah, do one panel at a time that would be my sugestion
Agree, sometimes one panel is even too much as you start to see it flash.
One panel a day though is too slow, LOL.
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:31 PM   #10
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Alrighty.. sounds like I should stripper wash on a friday after work..
FRIDAY: foam cannon with walmart vehicle and boat wash soap (alkaline). After mitting, rinse and Refoam and use nanoskin glove as claybar step. Rinse... dry... 2 hours.
SATURDAY: DA polish .. quick since new car... use grease remover spray or IPA to remove polishing oils and residue. Dry car... 2 hours probably.
SUNDAY: apply Cquartz to whole car. 2 hours?

Spread out loke this will work with kids situation and use wifes car on weekend so it stays clean indoors.
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:33 PM   #11
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I have used quartz uk several times myself.
With a new 2019 I d say DA polishing is OK but will go very quick as not much too correct.
That whole project takes a few hours at most.
I d set aside one day and do it all.
The coating also goes very quick.
Too me all the set up and cleanup is a lot of wasted time.
Don t expect the coating too last a year or more either FYI. It will look good but you ll see the diminished beading esp on the sides faster than you will expect.
White is also super easy and forgiving.
Is this true even if using their reload or keeping a coat of wax as u dry on it after washing?
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Old 09-04-2018, 07:41 AM   #12
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Is this true even if using their reload or keeping a coat of wax as u dry on it after washing?
Good question, the reload is great, I like it better than the coating LOL. That will help sustain the finish and beading. I use exactly what you suggest all the time.

much better plan for a weekend project. You may find yourself going right to the next step. On a new car it would be easy to do in one day. The hardest step is the correction and you ll have hardly anything on yours.
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I have used a couple of different products and the uk I think sets really quick and its not as forgiving as the regular c quartz stuff. So yeah, do one panel at a time that would be my sugestion
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Agree, sometimes one panel is even too much as you start to see it flash.
One panel a day though is too slow, LOL.
I think the OP's plan to spread out the time spent is fine, but yeah...do less than one whole panel at a time. A 2' x 2' area is good for application, then wait a minute or two for it to bond, then wipe off. Then move on to the next area. If OP wants to do this and just do the hood one day, roof the next, and door the next that's fine. Just don't cover too much area at one time such that you can't apply and then wipe off in less time that it takes to flash and harden.

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Is this true even if using their reload or keeping a coat of wax as u dry on it after washing?
I'm not using cQuartz, but I am using a consumer grade ceramic on my car (Gtechniq CSL). It's been over a year and the coating is still going strong. I'm also lazy, don't wash the car often enough, and never use a top coat product to "extend". I bought a bottle of Reload, but it's more a plan to use it as an only coating instead of a top coat. I've been using Klasse HGSG on our other vehicles. Reload won't last as long, is about the same difficulty to work with (smearing if too thick), but it should provide better beading and dirt repelling while it's on there.



Touching back on your original post...

If you do decide to do one panel per day DO NOT use the same applicator each day. As you keep going the new product will keep the applicator "wet" so it's not going to flash off and harden as quickly, but the next day it's going to be full of little bits of hard ceramic / glass. Toss it out and use a new applicator. The same goes for the microfiber towels you use to wipe off the panels. If you did the whole car all in a day (which I recommend as it's just as fast as waxing) you can get by with a couple towels for the entire car. Whether you do it all at once or one panel a day the towels you use for wiping it up need to go in the trash. Like the applicator, that product is going to flash, harden, and load the towels with ceramic / glass particles by the next day.
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I've had it professionally done on wheels

It takes them a weekend, and then they actually told me to let the wheels sit and let the coating harden for a week just to make sure
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If I have extra Ill use it on my winters before they get mounted.

Im starting to think paint correction is a wasted effort on a car thats never been through a car wash with 1100 miles.. hand washed with 2 bucket method twice so far.
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If I have extra Ill use it on my winters before they get mounted.

Im starting to think paint correction is a wasted effort on a car thats never been through a car wash with 1100 miles.. hand washed with 2 bucket method twice so far.
Most likely yes. Give the car a walk-around in the sun and make sure there are no swirls or other marks that bother you. Once you put that ceramic coating on you won't be able to polish out any imperfections for the few years it takes for the ceramic coating to finally disappear. If it's in really good condition the most you might want to do is just a finishing pad with a finishing / high gloss polish to make it really shine.
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Most likely yes. Give the car a walk-around in the sun and make sure there are no swirls or other marks that bother you. Once you put that ceramic coating on you won't be able to polish out any imperfections for the few years it takes for the ceramic coating to finally disappear. If it's in really good condition the most you might want to do is just a finishing pad with a finishing / high gloss polish to make it really shine.
I think to some extent you are probably right, but for the most part it probably shuld be done a few times to get rid of some of the oxidation and other stuff that messes with the clear coat, just remember that what you see on your car will not disappear when the ceramic coat is applied.
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FWIW, as someone who is still newer to this, I think your alternative plan of doing the entire coating in a single go is best. I'm not familiar with the specific product you are using, but I imagine that it may be recommended that any treated area remain dry for a certain amount of time after application? (at least with the ceramics and polymer sealants I've used this has been advised.) If you apply the ceramic coating over a period of a week, and you plan to drive the car during this period, you might have to worry about cure times vs. inclement weather potential adversely affecting the final results.

I've personally spread the correction process over several days because of how long this process takes me in some instances. I've done an abrasive wash, decon, and clay all in a single day, and then proceeded to do a more aggressive compounding the next day, and a lighter finishing polish the day after along with the polymer sealant. Before beginning a session, I've just done a wipe down with a diluted IPA solution. I'm not sure how big of a job your car will be, but both my BRZ and STI needed a substantial amount of correction when brand new to the point where, as I am only working with a short-throw DA, I hit them both with M105 as I wanted a faster cut (even then, it was a slow process to achieve the level of correction I desired) (mind you, these were/are WRB/PR colors, both of which showed their defects pretty visibly, and I wanted them to appear as flawless as possible even when directly reflecting the brightest sunlight of the day, which on those colors loves to show any and all swirl marks.)
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FWIW, as someone who is still newer to this, I think your alternative plan of doing the entire coating in a single go is best. I'm not familiar with the specific product you are using, but I imagine that it may be recommended that any treated area remain dry for a certain amount of time after application? (at least with the ceramics and polymer sealants I've used this has been advised.) If you apply the ceramic coating over a period of a week, and you plan to drive the car during this period, you might have to worry about cure times vs. inclement weather potential adversely affecting the final results.

I've personally spread the correction process over several days because of how long this process takes me in some instances. I've done an abrasive wash, decon, and clay all in a single day, and then proceeded to do a more aggressive compounding the next day, and a lighter finishing polish the day after along with the polymer sealant. Before beginning a session, I've just done a wipe down with a diluted IPA solution. I'm not sure how big of a job your car will be, but both my BRZ and STI needed a substantial amount of correction when brand new to the point where, as I am only working with a short-throw DA, I hit them both with M105 as I wanted a faster cut (even then, it was a slow process to achieve the level of correction I desired) (mind you, these were/are WRB/PR colors, both of which showed their defects pretty visibly, and I wanted them to appear as flawless as possible even when directly reflecting the brightest sunlight of the day, which on those colors loves to show any and all swirl marks.)
I checked it over in the sun this morning. I had asked the dealership not to put it through a car wash (theirs is not touch-less), but apparently per sales person they still used a brush while doing a hand wash. There was a lot of sticky stuff from the plastic they coat the car with. I see scratches on the trunk and roof, but not on the sides.. no swirls or heavy stuff.. really only visible in the sun.. so there is something to correct..
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I checked it over in the sun this morning. I had asked the dealership not to put it through a car wash (theirs is not touch-less), but apparently per sales person they still used a brush while doing a hand wash. There was a lot of sticky stuff from the plastic they coat the car with. I see scratches on the trunk and roof, but not on the sides.. no swirls or heavy stuff.. really only visible in the sun.. so there is something to correct..
It sounds like you could use one of the versatile intermediate compounds that has the ability to correct minor-to-moderate defects and also finish nicely when paired with the right pad.
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Alright.. im done.. yesterday morning I polished the hood, roof and trunk deck since they had dealer installed scratches. I ended up doing an IPA spraydown and also used carpro ls eraser. I only ended up using half the bottle of cquartz uk 3.0 and I also ended up using the short pile side of a quality mircofiber towel to buff the product after waiting 20 seconds for flash to start happening. The seude towel the kit came with wasnt working well... streaking and not even looking.
My concern is that I wonder if any product was applied since maybe the microfiber towel was absorbing a lot... 24 hours later now and it looks fine.. just wonder how thick it applied.
I applied reload a hour after cquartz as directed.. so I wont really know for a few months how well it went on.
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Im still playing the wait game till i can go at the rest of the car at once and have a few look overs for mistakes right now rain is coming down when it decides not to be to hot. I dont have a place to do the work freely so its a bit of wait.

Last week i was able to hide a nice 4 inch scratch on the front hood someone gave hours after i was checking why my ps fluid had changed to full red color then back to its dirty shade.
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Im still playing the wait game till i can go at the rest of the car at once and have a few look overs for mistakes right now rain is coming down when it decides not to be to hot. I dont have a place to do the work freely so its a bit of wait.

Last week i was able to hide a nice 4 inch scratch on the front hood someone gave hours after i was checking why my ps fluid had changed to full red color then back to its dirty shade.
Im thinking part of why mine went easy is because my car is new and white.. be careful with prep if yours is black.
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Alright.. im done.. yesterday morning I polished the hood, roof and trunk deck since they had dealer installed scratches. I ended up doing an IPA spraydown and also used carpro ls eraser. I only ended up using half the bottle of cquartz uk 3.0 and I also ended up using the short pile side of a quality mircofiber towel to buff the product after waiting 20 seconds for flash to start happening. The seude towel the kit came with wasnt working well... streaking and not even looking.
My concern is that I wonder if any product was applied since maybe the microfiber towel was absorbing a lot... 24 hours later now and it looks fine.. just wonder how thick it applied.
I applied reload a hour after cquartz as directed.. so I wont really know for a few months how well it went on.
FWIW CarPro Eraser is an IPA wash / wipe. You didn't need to do both, though it didn't hurt you in any way. I think I waited 1 minute before I wiped off my ceramic coating application, but you are probably fine at 20 seconds. It goes on thin, like any and every other coating. Applying thicker only means you have more to wipe off.
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GYEON Quartz Q² Syncro 50ml 9h Professional Ceramic Coating Kit

$180 on Amazon.

My PPF guy told me he just tried it and likes it.

He also said you had to buy this for about $15 on Amazon

Gyeon Q²M PREP Degreasing Product before Car Ceramic Coating for all surfaces

Is this stuff really better than the older, cheaper polymer sealants like the Car Guys, Zaino or Meguiars?

I understand about claying a car, and have done so, and about polishing, but only done that by hand and do not have DA orbital. I am deathly afraid of really taking the finish off because I have never used one, and heard horror stories about metal creases have the paint taken right off.
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