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Old 02-01-2019, 02:53 PM   #26
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WHOLE lotta meh..
Have you seen the all-new Forester? Were you expecting a big wing, fender flares, and low offset wheels?
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Old 02-01-2019, 03:35 PM   #27
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I know Subaru has never really been much for radical design language but to compete against the likes of Camry and accord, they really have to give the buyer more of a reason to even consider. Yes looks are entirely subjective but with the sedan segment narrowing, being 3rd/4th puts you much closer to the bottom.
Agreed. The new Camry looks pretty aggressive in certain trims given it's reputation for being a family car, and the V6 packing 300hp is pretty respectable as well.


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Old 02-01-2019, 06:46 PM   #28
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Maybe Legacy has a 3rd row now.
I'm almost as mad about not getting the Exiga as the Levorg.
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Old 02-01-2019, 07:29 PM   #29
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Maybe Legacy has a 3rd row now.
Only for the wagon.
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Old 02-01-2019, 09:30 PM   #30
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Only for the wagon.
The Spec B. wagon.
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Old 02-01-2019, 10:07 PM   #31
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The Spec B. wagon.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:47 AM   #32
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Have you seen the all-new Forester? Were you expecting a big wing, fender flares, and low offset wheels?
I thought the new Forester looks great. Too bad no performance version though.. that Sport's performance is disappointing, but then for those that offroad, the 0-60mph 10sec appears acceptable. Only problem is 99.999% of the time, I'm on the streets.


I think the only candidates for me from Subaru are still only the STI and WRX.
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Old 02-04-2019, 02:55 PM   #33
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In fact, it will be the first time a mainstream automaker integrates a vertical touchscreen into a sedan.
Question, what qualifies as mainstream?

Because Volvo has done this in the S90/S60. I consider Volvo to be "mainstream" and not niche or small. They moved over 600k units last year.

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Old 02-04-2019, 03:10 PM   #34
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so Subaru designed the Legacy to look just like the outgoing and discontinued Chrysler 200. Boring cars, it is what makes a Subaru a Subaru
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Old 02-04-2019, 03:28 PM   #35
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I thought the new Forester looks great. Too bad no performance version though.. that Sport's performance is disappointing, but then for those that offroad, the 0-60mph 10sec appears acceptable. Only problem is 99.999% of the time, I'm on the streets.


I think the only candidates for me from Subaru are still only the STI and WRX.
The new Forester looks just like the old one.
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Old 02-04-2019, 04:06 PM   #36
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The new Forester looks just like the old one.
Why mess with success? Worked for the new Crosstrek, too.
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Old 02-04-2019, 04:29 PM   #37
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Why mess with success? Worked for the new Crosstrek, too.
Initially but Crosstrek sales took a nose dive last month and you run the risk of the model looking stale before itís in the middle of its life cycle.
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Old 02-04-2019, 05:07 PM   #38
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Initially but Crosstrek sales took a nose dive last month and you run the risk of the model looking stale before itís in the middle of its life cycle.
No, because the new Forester came available. Again, totally understandable and expected.
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Old 02-04-2019, 10:03 PM   #39
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Question, what qualifies as mainstream?

Because Volvo has done this in the S90/S60. I consider Volvo to be "mainstream" and not niche or small. They moved over 600k units last year.

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They suck here then. Only 98,263 in the states. Maybe that's what he's referring to.
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Old 02-05-2019, 12:31 PM   #40
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I like how they're not going to the pasted-on infotainment screen that is the biggest gripe I have about new Mazda interiors.

I can see my wife having a lot of use for that size screen connected to android auto in an outback (b/c you know the outback is going to follow the same interior form as the Legacy). Big, easy to see screen for nav and music. Perfect!
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:30 PM   #41
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No, because the new Forester came available. Again, totally understandable and expected.
Exactly , Why buy a jacked up Impreza when you can have a little bigger and more powerful SUV with more tech if needed for a little more money. Plus the Forester looks better. For some reason the Impreza works better that the Crosstrek styling wise IMO
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:31 PM   #42
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I like how they're not going to the pasted-on infotainment screen that is the biggest gripe I have about new Mazda interiors.

I can see my wife having a lot of use for that size screen connected to android auto in an outback (b/c you know the outback is going to follow the same interior form as the Legacy). Big, easy to see screen for nav and music. Perfect!
It's not even just Mazda. Even the Germans have that tacked-on tablet look these days. It's amazing that you can spend over $100K on a car and still have an infotainment display that looks like it was an afterthought, rather than part of the design
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Exactly , Why buy a jacked up Impreza when you can have a little bigger and more powerful SUV with more tech if needed for a little more money. Plus the Forester looks better. For some reason the Impreza works better that the Crosstrek styling wise IMO
To some, the forester is too big. They WANT something impreza sized, you know, like the Forester USED to be.

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Old 02-05-2019, 03:29 PM   #44
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To some, the forester is too big. They WANT something impreza sized, you know, like the Forester USED to be.

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I still want a lowered 06-08 Foz with an STI drivetrain.
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Old 02-05-2019, 04:23 PM   #45
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It's not even just Mazda. Even the Germans have that tacked-on tablet look these days. It's amazing that you can spend over $100K on a car and still have an infotainment display that looks like it was an afterthought, rather than part of the design
It seems to be the current automotive design trend. You can be sure Alpine, JVC, Kenwood, and Pioneer probably aren't happy about that, as it removes the ability to put in their aftermarket HUs.

Subaru was providing double DIN spaces well before other auto manufacturers were. One thing I've always liked about their interiors.

And I hate that tacked on tablet look, it's just so tacky, intrusive, and ugly.

What I'd like to see is more instrument cluster info displayed on OEM HUDs. Mazda does do this and I like it. And they don't project onto the windshield, but more like a fighter cockpit HUD glass implementation. Like that a LOT. Let the traditional cluster be used as a secondary and backup display for those things it traditionally displays, and have a HUD be primary.
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It seems to be the current automotive design trend. You can be sure Alpine, JVC, Kenwood, and Pioneer probably aren't happy about that, as it removes the ability to put in their aftermarket HUs.
Beyond the aftermarket mfr's getting ixnay'd, it screws the buyer who plans on keeping the vehicle long term. When that big A sucker is obsolete, no replacement except oem, and it'll be $$$$$$.
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It's funny because even Alpine seems to be trying to capitalize on the "tacked on tablet" trend (or at least the design/styling) by releasing one of their own. The ironic thing is that it connects to a single-DIN connector so its not even like you can replace an OEM tablet-style radio with this one if your OEM one ever ****s the bed.

https://www.alpine-usa.com/product/a...-auto-ilx-f309
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Old 02-05-2019, 07:31 PM   #48
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Beyond the aftermarket mfr's getting ixnay'd, it screws the buyer who plans on keeping the vehicle long term. When that big A sucker is obsolete, no replacement except oem, and it'll be $$$$$$.
EyeSight worries me that way. I keep my cars a long time... whatís going to go wrong with all those extra systems in 10-15 years? Repair $$ potential to exceed the value of the vehicle.
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:55 AM   #49
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To some, the forester is too big. They WANT something impreza sized, you know, like the Forester USED to be.

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Good point. I have a Ascent so I'm a little partial to size but I have a new 5dr Impreza for day to day and find it very roomy for it's size
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:10 AM   #50
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To some, the forester is too big. They WANT something impreza sized, you know, like the Forester USED to be.

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Thatís me.
Never liked new forester size so I got one of last 08 XT foresters in US about 10 years ago. Waited for the car which I liked from Subaru but I felt that I should keep my forester as long as possible and still going strong without problems after 10 years. Probably I will go with new SGP WRX but still prefer hatch but donít want forester (no longer turbo is offered too).
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