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Old 03-06-2019, 03:24 PM   #26
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Relax guys, I was joking, making up an absurd theoretical scenario in jest .
Don't mind me, please go on .
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Old 03-06-2019, 03:26 PM   #27
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First you have to get through to those that don't comprehend what "slower traffic keep right" means to even begin implementing a class speed limit.

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Indeed, we have a lot of people who fail miserably at lane rules. It's compounded by the fact that the CHP don't seem to enforce it if you're going at least 65.
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Old 03-06-2019, 06:17 PM   #28
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will never go anywhere unfortunately. Would be awesome to have a vehicle class speed limit on certain roads. Especially on empty roads, it's pretty silly that performance/sports cars are supposed to drive the same speed as long haul trucks (aside from roads with truck limits, obviously).
Come now, you know it's not the vehicle preventing this


Thank your fellow Americans for sucking ass.
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Old 03-06-2019, 06:19 PM   #29
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This can't include the Polestar variants.....
Apparently NOT

Polestar Refuses Speed Limiters, in "You're Not My Real Dad" Break with Volvo's Latest Safety Initiative

Apparently speed limiters don't fit the upstart marque's performance ethos.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...d-regulations/

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Rebelling against authority is a key component of a healthy childhood and adolescence, and some of us, uh, I mean, people who are definitely not me, have turned it into a lifelong passion. So when Volvo recently created all kinds of hub-and-bubbery over the announcement that it will speed-limit its cars to 112 mph, we wondered whether the automaker's recently adopted Polestar division would blindly follow suit or show a little juvenile defiance. We queried both companies, and while Volvo hasn't yet replied to our questions regarding the nuts and bolts of the speed-limiting decision, Polestar confirmed to us at the Geneva auto show that it will not be adhering to the parent company's decision to put the brakes on all the fun.

Specifically, Polestar's spokesperson told us that it "can confirm that Polestar will not be speed-limiting its cars. That wouldn't fit our performance ethos." Spoken with the condescension of a genuine teen. Polestar appears to be a kindred spirit.
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:54 AM   #30
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I don't even know why there is news on any of this - most manufacturers limit the top speed of their cars, and typically remove or increase those limits on the performance moniker models.

We're talking about Volvo here, not McLaren; and it's not even "it's hip to be square" Volvo, which is best Volvo, it's "I'm an unreliable luxury brand too" Volvo.
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Old 03-08-2019, 09:29 AM   #31
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We're talking about Volvo here, not McLaren; and it's not even "it's hip to be square" Volvo, which is best Volvo, it's "I'm an unreliable luxury brand too" Volvo.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why Volvo is "unreliable".

They're average in mechanical reliability. The only, and the ONLY reason they scored low in CR ratings is that slow to respond (and difficult to navigate for typical Volvo demographic... old) Sensus touchscreen. Which has been improved greatly for the newer models with a better processor.

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The Swedish brand was knocked for many problems with its Sensus infotainment system, which uses an iPad-like touchscreen to control almost all of the vehicle functions, including climate control and many safety features. Customers experienced a myriad of problems with this system, and that’s the sole reason Volvo ranks at the bottom of the list, despite average mechanical reliability.
https://www.nydailynews.com/autos/ne...icle-1.4044062

I have had issue with CR including Infotainment systems as part of "reliability" reports of the cars they review.

I have said this for years... the infotainment issues should be scaled greatly or removed from "reliability" studies - and graded separately in different reports because "ease/speed of use/capability" has zero to do with reliability of the actual car, but they include them in "reliability". (Unless it was the system kept crashing or non-functional, like my '17 Subaru Impreza - even had the radio replaced in which they should be scaled, because it's not really a mechanical reliability issue, but just a software issue).

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Old 03-08-2019, 10:07 AM   #32
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I have had issue with CR including Infotainment systems as part of "reliability" reports of the cars they review.

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I agree with you to a degree, but in an increasing number of cases (like Volvo) the infotainment system controls everything except the wipers and blinkers.
If it sucks the usability of the car sucks.
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And it was just slow to respond to touch, not "didn't function". It was reliable... slowly reliable.

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Old 03-08-2019, 12:07 PM   #34
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CR has always done that.


Bring your Subaru in for a blown fuse due to you running a microwave in the car? Yep, that counts the same as a KIA with a blown engine. Not sure if they weight the failures differently or not, but I'm betting no.
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Old 03-08-2019, 09:24 PM   #35
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CR has always done that.


Bring your Subaru in for a blown fuse due to you running a microwave in the car? Yep, that counts the same as a KIA with a blown engine. Not sure if they weight the failures differently or not, but I'm betting no.
They do weigh problems differently. A blown engine or trans has a much higher effect on the score than sluggish infotainment or a rattle.
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