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Old 09-05-2018, 01:31 PM   #151
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I see it too.
hey, it's clearly different, it's got like, different headlights and different taillights, and besides, the badge is shaped like a bowtie not a prancing horse, and it's hollow, so like, more airflow for cooling or something....

seriously though, it's the corolla affect; cars in a certain segment and price bracket end up looking similar; it's almost unavoidable, at least from a financial standpoint.
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:38 PM   #152
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hey, it's clearly different, it's got like, different headlights and different taillights, and besides, the badge is shaped like a bowtie not a prancing horse, and it's hollow, so like, more airflow for cooling or something....

seriously though, it's the corolla affect; cars in a certain segment and price bracket end up looking similar; it's almost unavoidable, at least from a financial standpoint.
At this point, I kind of hope it does not have a bowtie on it (actually, do any Vettes have a bowtie?)
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Old 09-05-2018, 01:39 PM   #153
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Stingrays and Flags..

But GM has already trademarked a new ZORA brand logo.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/08/...corvette-name/
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Old 09-05-2018, 02:31 PM   #154
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Those proportions seem off. Like a front engine cockpit on a rear engine car.
It might be the angle of the picture if you watch the video a few posts above the proportions seem fine to me. The Corvette has never been a small car.

I see this thing costing some serious $$ though and limited production. I am guessing more than the current ZR1 but hopefully not Ford GT MSRP.
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Old 09-05-2018, 02:49 PM   #155
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I see this thing costing some serious $$ though and limited production.
I thought the whole point was the Corvette officially shifting to a mid-engine car. Permanently.

I've heard the C7 will still be sold along side it for a few years, but after that it sounds like it'll be strictly mid-engine.
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Old 09-05-2018, 03:32 PM   #156
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I thought the whole point was the Corvette officially shifting to a mid-engine car. Permanently.

I've heard the C7 will still be sold along side it for a few years, but after that it sounds like it'll be strictly mid-engine.
As I understand it, this will either be a separate vehicle all together, or Zora will be a new GM line with more than one model.
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Old 09-05-2018, 04:07 PM   #157
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The Corvette has never been a small car.

True

However, I do remember GM mentioning that the C6 Vette's overall length is shorter than a 911.

*googling specs*

yep, about even, to an inch shorter, depending on trim levels.


So, while the Vette has never been small, it has shrunk over the decades, while the Porsche family became bloated.

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Old 03-14-2019, 06:11 AM   #158
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Default Chevrolet Corvette C8 Is so Powerful It Keeps Bending Its Frame, Shattering Glass: Re

Chevrolet Corvette C8 Is so Powerful It Keeps Bending Its Frame, Shattering Glass: Report
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These are just some of the reasons that the mid-engined Corvette's reveal has been postponed.


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Several alleged reveal dates for the eighth-generation "C8" Chevrolet Corvette have come and gone, and a new report claims that this has been due to design problems delaying the new model's launch. These complications have apparently been so major, in fact, they're causing damage to the car's frame and glass engine cover due to too much power for the chassis.

Rumors claimed that the C8 was scheduled for launch at Detroit's North American International Auto Show in January, then the Geneva Motor Show in March, both of which have come to pass without a new Corvette. Citing "well-placed sources," Hagerty alleges that General Motors missed these deadlines due to shortcomings with a new standardized, global GM electrical system, one in which engineers are reportedly still refining. This system is said to incorporate more than 100 interlinked computers on its Computer Area Network (CAN) bus. Hagerty's report corroborates rumors from December that alleged the C8 would be delayed six months due to electrical gremlins.

Problems are allegedly not limited to those digital, but also those mechanical. Prototypes fitted with twin-turbo V-8s producing between 900 and 1,000 horsepower have reportedly suffered from structural distortion so severe that the engine compartment's glass hatch was breaking. These are in line with previous rumors which claimed that the C8 will use a twin-turbo V-8 to achieve hypercar-like performance, with acceleration so "frightening" that GM has supposedly consulted with lawyers about the potential risk of selling something so fast.

One last nondescript problem remained, described only as a butting of heads between the design and engineering teams, though details were unspecified. With multiple sources now reporting similar reasons for why we have yet to see the C8 Corvette, the other claims made in each of these rumors are looking more credible, especially the one that outlined the Corvette becoming a standalone brand, similar to how Volkswagen spun off the Jetta name into its own brand in China. Maybe GM thinks the same strategy will work on sports car-buying Americans.

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Bending frames and shattering glass are not a sign of how powerful the engine is, but rather how piss poor the car is engineered. Does it come with a fire extinguisher?

100 internlinked computers! LOLOL.... yeah, this will last. What could possibly go wrong!




Disclaimer: I know that most cars have dozens of computers linked, but this is GM we are talking about.

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Bending frames and shattering glass are not a sign of how powerful the engine is, but rather how piss poor the car is engineered. Does it come with a fire extinguisher?

100 internlinked computers! LOLOL.... yeah, this will last. What could possibly go wrong!




Disclaimer: I know that most cars have dozens of computers linked, but this is GM we are talking about.
Sounds like GM needs your expert knowledge on finite element analysis. You could probably make a lot of money contracting yourself out to every OEM. Every single one of them would pay a lot of money for a method to 100% accurately predict loading conditions on a product which has zero reference in their existing vehicle lineup. You would save them millions of dollars and likely shave months off the development process.

I'm sure Calsonic, Denso, Delphi, Continental, ZF, and Bosch would welcome your input on ECU design and software development too.


This isn't piss poor engineering. It's just engineering. They tested with that Holden Ute and gathered data. They estimated and predicted loading conditions and proceeded with chassis design. Now that they have real cars with real powertrains they can gather more data, refine the analyses, and improve the chassis where required. The fact that this is a rumor and that the car isn't yet on dealership lots means it's actually "good" engineering. If there is a chassis issue related to some monster engine it's likely a late find because that's not the first or second or third vehicle variant they built and began testing. It's a later release with a very low build quantity. What it does to the chassis is likely irrelevant for the base model that likely only has 500hp.
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I for one can't wait to see all the disappointment of those selling their C6's and C7's to be the first in line for this thing. It is going to have some growing pains for a model year or three.
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Sounds like GM needs your expert knowledge on finite element analysis. You could probably make a lot of money contracting yourself out to every OEM. Every single one of them would pay a lot of money for a method to 100% accurately predict loading conditions on a product which has zero reference in their existing vehicle lineup. You would save them millions of dollars and likely shave months off the development process.

I'm sure Calsonic, Denso, Delphi, Continental, ZF, and Bosch would welcome your input on ECU design and software development too.


This isn't piss poor engineering. It's just engineering. They tested with that Holden Ute and gathered data. They estimated and predicted loading conditions and proceeded with chassis design. Now that they have real cars with real powertrains they can gather more data, refine the analyses, and improve the chassis where required. The fact that this is a rumor and that the car isn't yet on dealership lots means it's actually "good" engineering. If there is a chassis issue related to some monster engine it's likely a late find because that's not the first or second or third vehicle variant they built and began testing. It's a later release with a very low build quantity. What it does to the chassis is likely irrelevant for the base model that likely only has 500hp.
When past iterations of cars that have been essentially the same for 20 years have caught fire routinely and overheated time again, GM is not known for quality. They never have been. Having a chassis tweak to the point of breaking glass means it exceeded yield of the material (permanent set may or may not have occured) which should not happen on any system designed properly. My experience is building human rated spaceflight hardware where you MUST get it right on day one. You only have the luxury of building a handful of units ever. We have think of every possible issue.

I don't do coding. I am a mechanical engineer so I will stick to that.
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