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Old 04-08-2019, 07:30 PM   #101
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The rotated kit from Perrin - Does it mate up to the EFR V band turbine housing or do you need a 4 bolt Garret style turbine housing outlet?
Sorry for the delay man.... i know you messaged me too. To answer your question, yes - the Perrin EFR kit does in fact come with a downpipe that mates right up to the vband .83/ss housing.
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Old 04-08-2019, 07:46 PM   #102
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Sorry for the delay man.... i know you messaged me too. To answer your question, yes - the Perrin EFR kit does in fact come with a downpipe that mates right up to the vband .83/ss housing.
No worries. Does it still utilize an EWG like their Garrett kits? Or does it use the IWG on the turbo?
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Old 04-08-2019, 07:48 PM   #103
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IWG. They may have an EWG option. Give them a call or drop them and email.... I just got back from their place. Awesome peeps to deal with!
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Old 04-08-2019, 09:56 PM   #104
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Update- whoever the hell designed the oil dip stick needs to be pinned to the wall and used as a dart board. Everything was smooth sailing and now my dipstick is reading wacky. Not sure if I'm using oil or what. No issues the first 1500 miles, no oil used, no dipstick problems. maybe i'm the dipstick?

In other news I'm going to give a robust meth system a shot vs. the TORCO. With map switching as a failsafe (can't get any safer) I think I can reach my goals.

I will control injection based on injector duty cycle, and map switch if i go lean.

I ordered a controller that will feed the meth based on IDC. I already have the pump, lines, and nozzle installed. I'll likely add another nozzle up close to the throttle body for full boost.

Here's where my pump is. I previously used a bit to cool the intake temps.




Until then... I have a few gallons of TORCO left.... it's time to turn it up!
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Old 04-09-2019, 06:59 AM   #105
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Who made the meth reservoir? I've been considering picking up a set up from ProMeth to put in the hatch to keep me cooler during track days.
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Old 04-09-2019, 11:44 AM   #106
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regarding the dipstick, I agree

I have two dipsticks, one with the O-ring and one without

the one with the O-ring causes erroneous readings. it will show full, then I redo it and it shows slightly less than full. Wipe it again and its full again.

the one without the O-ring is solid everytime I check. it reads the same no matter what

A company called Superstik sells a dipstick that supposedly fixes this, but I am annoyed that something as simple as an oil dipstick causes oil readings to be off.
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Old 04-09-2019, 11:55 AM   #107
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Yea it is the orings that screw up the reading. Without them it reads 100% consistent.

I am really curious how our cars will compare. I basically have a journal bearing 7670 but with a smaller hotside. Should be interesting!

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Old 04-09-2019, 12:06 PM   #108
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Old 04-09-2019, 03:26 PM   #109
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Who made the meth reservoir? I've been considering picking up a set up from ProMeth to put in the hatch to keep me cooler during track days.
It's a Perrin washer tank from their FMIC kit. I swapped out the mounting bracket on the meth pump to aluminum and had it welded on the Perring tank. Snow performance beefs their pumps up for use under the hood, on the front bumper beam, etc. Snow was bought by another company recently, and they now read from a corporate script which is annoying. Prior to them being bought the tech guys were super helpful and friendly.

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regarding the dipstick, I agree

I have two dipsticks, one with the O-ring and one without

the one with the O-ring causes erroneous readings. it will show full, then I redo it and it shows slightly less than full. Wipe it again and its full again.

the one without the O-ring is solid everytime I check. it reads the same no matter what

A company called Superstik sells a dipstick that supposedly fixes this, but I am annoyed that something as simple as an oil dipstick causes oil readings to be off.
That's a great idea to have a second dipstick. I think I've narrowed it down to the inconsistent readings only occurring if you're not 100% topped off. If I'm 100% topped off I get the same reading every time. This is less than ideal though. With the STI being an oil eater a consistent reading below 100% full is necessary as the a false reading makes it impossible to know how much to add.

Another fix, not as good as no oring, is to measure 9mm down from the full dot, and scribe a mark. This allows you to insert the stick up to the rubber o-ring. It becomes problematic because the stick goes in at an angle so, it becomes a situation where if you're a bit low oil will creep over each side of the dipstick vs. creeping up the dipstick. This makes it hard to know how many oz. to dump in.

I'm ordering a second dipstick for accurate 'below full' readings. I keep a quart bottle with 2oz increments if it's less than full by even 8 oz I will fill it.

I checked out that Superstick. Looks nice. But for me and my car's location i can keep a second stick without an o'ring near by without any inconvenience. If I parked outside I'd consider picking one up.



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Yea it is the orings that screw up the reading. Without them it reads 100% consistent.

I am really curious how our cars will compare. I basically have a journal bearing 7670 but with a smaller hotside. Should be interesting!
Didn't I read somewhere you were only going to target 22-23 psi? I'm at that right now on my conservative pump gas tune/92 octane.

I'm aiming for 28-32 psi tapering to 25-26 (whatever the turbo will do) at redline.

Why so conservative on the boost?

I was at 34 psi on my 7163
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Old 04-09-2019, 03:42 PM   #110
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Yeah, 4 years ago I bought a Red IAG dipstick cause I didn't like the yellow one. I cut the O-ring off the stocker and use'd it to compare.
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Old 04-09-2019, 04:14 PM   #111
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I'll be going with what ever the tuner is comfortable with. Airboy is easily the best in Canada hands down. I hope he pushes it to mid to upper 20's so we will see how the car behaves. With meth I could still be octane limited and I really don't want to use an octane booster to chase some numbers. I predict this turbo with the 0.63 hotside will behave similarly to a 3576 with an 0.63 hotside.
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Old 04-09-2019, 04:31 PM   #112
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I'll be going with what ever the tuner is comfortable with. Airboy is easily the best in Canada hands down. I hope he pushes it to mid to upper 20's so we will see how the car behaves. With meth I could still be octane limited and I really don't want to use an octane booster to chase some numbers. I predict this turbo with the 0.63 hotside will behave similarly to a 3576 with an 0.63 hotside.
I hope he can push it safely. I'm concerned the meth might limit me as well. If that's the case i'll go back to TORCO although likely less per oz per gallon.

How much are you injecting, and, is it 50/50?
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Old 04-09-2019, 04:44 PM   #113
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I hope he can push it safely. I'm concerned the meth might limit me as well. If that's the case i'll go back to TORCO although likely less per oz per gallon.

How much are you injecting, and, is it 50/50?
Yes it will be 50/50.

I am using AEM's 1000CC jet. So I am doing it for power.
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Old 04-09-2019, 11:34 PM   #114
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Yes it will be 50/50.

I am using AEM's 1000CC jet. So I am doing it for power.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I'm thinking two nozzles - a 325cc down closer to the intercooler for light duty work and a 625 cc nozzle closer to the throttle body for the 'power' nozzle.

This is going to be fun to tune (sarcasm).
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Old 04-15-2019, 11:34 AM   #115
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Are you using a fuel pressure sensor? My tuner strongly suggested I use one as it can really help save an engine when using the differential features. I believe it can ever throw a cel/put the car into a sort of limp mode if it goes to far in either direction with regards to measured pressure.

I got my machinist buddy at work to whip me up a really quick adapter. Worked really good.

As far as the pressure sensor goes I grabbed a cheap pressure transducer from Amazon. It works as it should (35psi at idle which is correct under vacuum) but longevity could be questionable so I will guinea pig it.



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Are you using a fuel pressure sensor? My tuner strongly suggested I use one as it can really help save an engine when using the differential features. I believe it can ever throw a cel/put the car into a sort of limp mode if it goes to far in either direction with regards to measured pressure.

I got my machinist buddy at work to whip me up a really quick adapter. Worked really good.

As far as the pressure sensor goes I grabbed a cheap pressure transducer from Amazon. It works as it should (35psi at idle which is correct under vacuum) but longevity could be questionable so I will guinea pig it.



Boom

Careful with the generic sensors, I've had a large number of issues with them including but not limited to accuracy, longevity and leaking.
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Old 04-15-2019, 01:57 PM   #117
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Are you using a fuel pressure sensor? My tuner strongly suggested I use one as it can really help save an engine when using the differential features. I believe it can ever throw a cel/put the car into a sort of limp mode if it goes to far in either direction with regards to measured pressure.

I got my machinist buddy at work to whip me up a really quick adapter. Worked really good.

As far as the pressure sensor goes I grabbed a cheap pressure transducer from Amazon. It works as it should (35psi at idle which is correct under vacuum) but longevity could be questionable so I will guinea pig it.



Hey that's slick. I did a write up on the wiring if you need it.

Yes, I am using one tied into my fpr.

I had a bit of an issue with the fuel dif feature pulling fuel (did a long write up on that as well) but a side from that it's a really cool feature.

Edit. After my first cup of coffee kicked in I realize I was still sleeping when first replied. Lol.

I turned the fp differential off. I'll turn it back on one day.

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Boom

Careful with the generic sensors, I've had a large number of issues with them including but not limited to accuracy, longevity and leaking.
Pretty hard slipping 5/16 line over 3/8 barb

This was free so it worked.

And yeah I am aware of the generic sensor issues. The 150 psi and 100 psi ones had good reviews, it was the high pressure ones that had crappy ones I found.

Worst comes to worst I will upgrade to a name brand 150 psi one. Currently it is functioning as intended.
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Pretty hard slipping 5/16 line over 3/8 barb

This was free so it worked.

And yeah I am aware of the generic sensor issues. The 150 psi and 100 psi ones had good reviews, it was the high pressure ones that had crappy ones I found.

Worst comes to worst I will upgrade to a name brand 150 psi one. Currently it is functioning as intended.
I always forget the stock lines on these things are 5/16 and not the typical 3/8.
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Old 04-15-2019, 03:47 PM   #120
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Delphi, you should be able to monitor the fp differential, which should read your base pressure... Vs monitoring raw fuel pressure.


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Old 04-15-2019, 09:02 PM   #121
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I don't have it enabled on my map right now I will leave that for Airboy (yes the same Airboy that made that very very handy excel tool is my tuner). Just need to decide what to do with my EVAP system. I have a new purge valve coming in because I broke one. Ugh. May just delete it all not too sure.

Sorry for bombing your build thread with my own crap man!
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I figured it was theee airboy. Lol.

I took out all the evap stuff under the hood and plugged my line at the firewall to help with the fuel smell. No issues that I can tell.

Bomb away.... Anyone's welcome in here.
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I figured it was theee airboy. Lol.

I took out all the evap stuff under the hood and plugged my line at the firewall to help with the fuel smell. No issues that I can tell.

Bomb away.... Anyone's welcome in here.
So with it plugged at the firewall where do the fumes go?
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Old 04-15-2019, 11:55 PM   #124
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I never thought about it too hard but, I think that line goes back to a charcoal canister or two and may even connect to the gas tank.

I just know i got the smell of gas after removing all that crap under the hood, and, capping that line made it go away.

There is a thread on here about deleting it all from the hood back to the tank.
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Old 04-16-2019, 07:03 AM   #125
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I never thought about it too hard but, I think that line goes back to a charcoal canister or two and may even connect to the gas tank.

I just know i got the smell of gas after removing all that crap under the hood, and, capping that line made it go away.

There is a thread on here about deleting it all from the hood back to the tank.
Rather than capping it you should just run a hose from that line to somewhere under the frame rails so the tanks can vent pressure. It will smell like fuel but you won't have pressure build up in the tank.
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