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03-16-2019, 06:28 AM | #1 | |
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Lotus dishes first details on new sports car due next year
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03-18-2019, 12:04 PM | #2 |
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on the same 'ol platform... so I guess that means it won't make it to the US?
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03-18-2019, 12:15 PM | #3 |
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03-18-2019, 12:41 PM | #4 | ||
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04-26-2019, 07:01 AM | #5 | |
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New 2020 Lotus sports car to be brand’s first electrified model
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04-26-2019, 10:12 AM | #6 |
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Gee it looks and sounds like what Toyota wants to do with a new MR car.
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04-26-2019, 10:20 AM | #7 | |
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04-26-2019, 10:23 AM | #8 |
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04-26-2019, 10:56 AM | #9 | |
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04-26-2019, 11:27 AM | #10 | |
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04-26-2019, 12:31 PM | #11 |
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Very meh for me. The rear tail light is pretty cool, but other than that there just isn't much that really stands out in that design. Pretty boring.
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04-26-2019, 01:44 PM | #12 |
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04-26-2019, 03:57 PM | #13 |
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OTOH what if Lotus built a Lotus SUV?
Light, agile, tossable both on and offroad. I'm thinking desert buggy articulation with a fully body. |
04-26-2019, 04:04 PM | #14 | |
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This whole SUV-world-domination thing is really a thorn in my balls... |
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04-26-2019, 04:09 PM | #15 |
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So far Geely doesn't seem to be buying brands for the badge, but rather the technology, and is continuing it. Not saying that'll continue, but they haven't done horrible things to Volvo yet. If anything, they've been much better than the companies that previously owned the badges they've picked up.
Manufacturers can't fight the ****ty SUV war, that's up to consumers. If they're going to survive they don't have a choice. Porsche did an OK job at this. |
04-26-2019, 04:31 PM | #16 |
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Counterpoint.. SUVs aren't s***ty anymore. Most are unibody wagons with tall roofs that go, stop, ride, and handle better than sedans did in the 90s when we all started bitching about SUV sales growing.
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04-26-2019, 09:49 PM | #17 |
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Compared to a light car even modern SUVs feel and handle like a bag of smashed ass. Sure they are better than they were, but you can only hide physics so much with electronic nannies.
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04-26-2019, 10:13 PM | #18 |
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Not going to agree with 'most are' there, most of them are still pure garbage. There are some impressive exceptions though (again, the VAG Cayenne variants being the example here)
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04-29-2019, 01:12 PM | #19 | |
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I remember when the Cayanne Turbo first came out. 500 some odd horsepower and a 0-60 time slower than my bone stock 5-speed WRX. They've since added launch control, which does make it faster in a straight line than my car, but I'd love to see a Cayanne owner follow me DOWN a twisty road and drive their car like a "Porsche." |
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04-29-2019, 01:32 PM | #20 |
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Platform development and sharing has given us ridiculously good cars and in the process SUV/CUV that perform at levels once occupied by similarly sized cars a decade ago. Stiff refined chassis and tire technology has greatly benefitted the utility class. Excess weight riding high over the wheels will never be a recipe for great handling, but considering this huge flaw, they are damn impressive.
Let’s just say a Macan is better at driving hard than an Evora is at being a daily driver. Have you tried getting into and being inside one of those? Then actually rowing gears and seeing out? It’s abysmal. |
04-29-2019, 04:43 PM | #21 | |
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But. I like cars. Trucks are for farmers and SUVs are, well, minivans for those with vanity issues... I like fast, small cars with lots of involvement from the driver and an overabundance of feedback. On the other hand, I like utility and practicality (but not at the expense of the former). I'm not a gymnast so I also need a decent aperture to shove my flesh through. That said, I also am ok putting a little effort into ingress/egress. The combination of needs above lead me to the WRX/STI. As for the Macan… You can't even get a manual in it! This omission (from the once storied manufacturer of world-renowned sports cars, no less) automatically disqualifies it from my stable. We've got a '99 Forester auto for schlepping duties and the wife will always drive an auto, whatever she ends up in, so whatever I drive needs to be fun. Maybe I'm a dying breed, the last of the purists you might say, but I have absolutely zero problem driving a stick every day in traffic, and that's with a surgically reconstructed left knee and a pretty recent sprain to my right knee. |
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04-29-2019, 05:04 PM | #22 | |
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If crossovers fit in the SUV category, I like them too. For daily driving you are up high enough to get a good sight picture of traffic. And our RDX handles great with plenty of daily driver power. Whats not to like? A couple of weeks ago I drove a Ferrari 458 Italia, A McClaren 570s and a Lambo Hurican 610-4 at a track day. No limits driving drifting and sliding around corners. I turned the fastest laps of the non-owners that day. And guess what? ALL AUTOMATICS! If you won't have a 458 because it's an auto... I'll take it off your hands any day. I do like driving a stick on the street though. |
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04-29-2019, 06:07 PM | #23 |
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04-29-2019, 07:50 PM | #24 | |
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It takes a bit of time to learn how to get in/out easily, and there isn't a "demure" way for anyone who wears a skirt/dress/kilt sort of outfit. I can easily get in/out holding a coffee in one hand and a backpack on my other shoulder though. Easier than climbing in/out of a caged car. and I do daily it year-round in Chicago. It's even got heated seats, heated mirrors, and a cup holder (though the latter is only available aftermarket) |
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04-30-2019, 01:09 AM | #25 |
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