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Old 09-16-2019, 03:38 PM   #151
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Getting a car for fuel mileage has never been on my list, but I'm enjoying both the lower fuel costs as well as the greater MPG that my Impreza brings.
I've been looking around and pondering a Genesis G70 or Volvo S60 RDesign (now that 2020s are hitting, they're getting discounted ~$10k off to move).

I go to fuelly to check the real world reported gas mileage.

Volvo is similar to the Impreza at around 28-30+ MPG. (Which is impressive when you think about it).

G70 3.3L is in the high teens/low 20s. 2.0L is maybe 3-4mpg better.

All take premium. We're talking at current prices, where I pay around $1422/year for my Impreza, the S60 would be another $251/year. Which is really no big deal. But the 3.3 Genesis? We're looking at over $1k/year and the 2.0 is around $700.

It does make quite a difference in my book.

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Old 09-17-2019, 02:47 AM   #152
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I've been looking around and pondering a Genesis G70 or Volvo S60 RDesign (now that 2020s are hitting, they're getting discounted ~$10k off to move).

I go to fuelly to check the real world reported gas mileage.

Volvo is similar to the Impreza at around 28-30+ MPG. (Which is impressive when you think about it).

G70 3.3L is in the high teens/low 20s. 2.0L is maybe 3-4mpg better.

All take premium. We're talking at current prices, where I pay around $1422/year for my Impreza, the S60 would be another $251/year. Which is really no big deal. But the 3.3 Genesis? We're looking at over $1k/year and the 2.0 is around $700.

It does make quite a difference in my book.

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The Volvo transmission ruins the driving experience as detailed by every article ive read about it. Ive seen them for $40k also, and i was waiting on this car for awhile when it was first announced. Too bad, they almost had a hit on their hands! Still looking for that perfect wrx replacement for $40k.

"The engine isn't helped by the 8-speed automatic transmission, which is merely adequate. Push the S60 hard and the transmission waits for a few minutes before deciding to downshift. Shifting manually doesn't really help either"
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Old 09-17-2019, 08:25 AM   #153
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That's what I've read about the Volvo too. Transmission should've been a ZF.
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Old 09-17-2019, 09:12 AM   #154
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That's what I've read about the Volvo too. Transmission should've been a ZF.
To be fair i have not driven one, but first off im a MT guy, so unless an AT is top notch and extremely responsive im probably not going to like it. However, everything i quoted was the exact same sentiment in like 5 different reviews i read. That was from autoblog. The car is beautiful inside and out, and $40k ($10k off) is a very attractive price. I know 0 about transmission, so maybe someone can chime in... would there be any kind of modifications that can be made to make it better?
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Old 09-17-2019, 01:47 PM   #155
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the volvo infotainment is also garbage and the hvac controls are all in the touchscreen.
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Old 09-17-2019, 05:21 PM   #156
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To be fair i have not driven one, but first off im a MT guy, so unless an AT is top notch and extremely responsive im probably not going to like it. However, everything i quoted was the exact same sentiment in like 5 different reviews i read. That was from autoblog. The car is beautiful inside and out, and $40k ($10k off) is a very attractive price. I know 0 about transmission, so maybe someone can chime in... would there be any kind of modifications that can be made to make it better?
The Autoblog review doesn't say whether or not the car was in "Dynamic" driving mode instead of "Comfort".
It makes quite a difference, IMO.
But, to answer your question, I think there's some Polestar performance tune that should improve shifting along with engine perf.
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That's what I've read about the Volvo too. Transmission should've been a ZF.
FYR, Volvo uses a transverse Aisin 8-speed tranny; the only transverse ZF equivalent is a 9-speed and I'm not sure it's better.
The desirable ZF is the longitudinal 8-speed, IMO.
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Old 09-17-2019, 06:01 PM   #158
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frequent black screens and sometimes get stuck on the reverse cam if you move the shifter too fast
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Old 09-18-2019, 07:14 AM   #159
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I may just get a 2020 Civic Si and drive that for a couple years until a new STi has been out for a year or so. I just cant seem to find anything i really like at $40k. I bought my 2015 wrx in June of 2014 and it sucked waiting for aftermarket parts to trickle out, so i dont really want to go through the same thing again. I like the S3 but i just cant justify spending $50k on a car that will be worth $30k in 3 years.
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I may just get a 2020 Civic Si and drive that for a couple years until a new STi has been out for a year or so. I just cant seem to find anything i really like at $40k. I bought my 2015 wrx in June of 2014 and it sucked waiting for aftermarket parts to trickle out, so i dont really want to go through the same thing again. I like the S3 but i just cant justify spending $50k on a car that will be worth $30k in 3 years.
I would go for a used S3. One near me is a 2018 with 10k miles listed for $40k. Has all the packages too. Too bad its not the color I would want. I'm sure I could get it for 35k
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I may just get a 2020 Civic Si and drive that for a couple years until a new STi has been out for a year or so. I just cant seem to find anything i really like at $40k. I bought my 2015 wrx in June of 2014 and it sucked waiting for aftermarket parts to trickle out, so i dont really want to go through the same thing again. I like the S3 but i just cant justify spending $50k on a car that will be worth $30k in 3 years.
Tell me about it. Want a 2020 M2C bad, but $60K worth $40K (or less) in 3 years is a tough pill...especially as Id probably drop another $8K-$10K into it.

Depreciation is a bitch. My FXT is worth half (or less) of what I paid 5y ago.
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Although I'll not get another STi, I'm still excited to read all about the new one when it comes out. That's what I did before I got mine and it's what I've always done... tasting cars in my mind whether I intend to own them or not. Porn of another kind.

After a long satisfying life pursuing cars' performance, vicarious or actual, I have to tell you it's nice to break from that cycle. A lot of years and too many cars have taught me a couple of things, it's nice to have a lot of power, but it's frustrating to be unable to use it. Meantime you're stuck in the real world among the legions of comatose drivers who are more aware of everything else but their vehicles. Four more wheels on the chugging transportation train to everywhere.

For the most part being on the road is about everything but performance... especially if your idea of performance is 90% motor, with the rest being what enables that motor to do its thing. Brakes to haul it down, transmission to take its abuse, tires to keep it on the tarmac, and trace amounts of anything else. Meanwhie, there you are, an ant in an endless line of ants headed to and from with all that armament, satisfying only in its potentials just like it did in the magazines.

And even when we have what we lusted for to drive, it's never enough. More power, more luxury, higher cornering forces, better bigger tires and brakes, gadgets and gizmos and sleeker better cars steal the pleasure of satisfaction with what you have at the moment. It's a never ending cycle, a hunger never satisfied. Because even if you are satisfied, you have modified to perfection, you couldn't be happier... it never lasts. "It" gets old, tired, and too often smashed. A memory.

So I decided to get off that grid. Revisit the world I once knew, when a car meant freedom, new places and a chance to see the world. When even the wind rushing by made us want to feel it, smell it, hear it. Back seats, and what they meant. Passengers to conspire with. Endless places that called. The mystery of life out there more intoxicating than anything else. Keep gas in it, the tires pumped up, and go. What happened to that? We get older and jaded. We settled down to life, or it settled upon us.

New cars with more stuff trying to mask the boring reality of routine existence. When we can't go back to where the journey began. First cut really is the deepest. No car can give what was free in the first one. Virginity lost is gone forever.

I drove slowly along a decrepit road beside a creek with the windows down, the roof open, just smelling the air the other day. I smelled yesterday, saw it around me. I drove in the mountains that, were all humans gone, would never notice. The sky's blues and grays, the sun through the trees, and the sound of birds were no different from forever ago. The bright foliage's bitter sweet beauty a tithe to fall.

That's what I want from life now. That's what I get. And amazingly, it doesn't take three or four hundred horsepower to get it. Who knew. I just had to remember. My Subaru Impreza takes me there.
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Although I'll not get another STi, I'm still excited to read all about the new one when it comes out. That's what I did before I got mine and it's what I've always done... tasting cars in my mind whether I intend to own them or not. Porn of another kind.

After a long satisfying life pursuing cars' performance, vicarious or actual, I have to tell you it's nice to break from that cycle. A lot of years and too many cars have taught me a couple of things, it's nice to have a lot of power, but it's frustrating to be unable to use it. Meantime you're stuck in the real world among the legions of comatose drivers who are more aware of everything else but their vehicles. Four more wheels on the chugging transportation train to everywhere.

For the most part being on the road is about everything but performance... especially if your idea of performance is 90% motor, with the rest being what enables that motor to do its thing. Brakes to haul it down, transmission to take its abuse, tires to keep it on the tarmac, and trace amounts of anything else. Meanwhie, there you are, an ant in an endless line of ants headed to and from with all that armament, satisfying only in its potentials just like it did in the magazines.

And even when we have what we lusted for to drive, it's never enough. More power, more luxury, higher cornering forces, better bigger tires and brakes, gadgets and gizmos and sleeker better cars steal the pleasure of satisfaction with what you have at the moment. It's a never ending cycle, a hunger never satisfied. Because even if you are satisfied, you have modified to perfection, you couldn't be happier... it never lasts. "It" gets old, tired, and too often smashed. A memory.

So I decided to get off that grid. Revisit the world I once knew, when a car meant freedom, new places and a chance to see the world. When even the wind rushing by made us want to feel it, smell it, hear it. Back seats, and what they meant. Passengers to conspire with. Endless places that called. The mystery of life out there more intoxicating than anything else. Keep gas in it, the tires pumped up, and go. What happened to that? We get older and jaded. We settled down to life, or it settled upon us.

New cars with more stuff trying to mask the boring reality of routine existence. When we can't go back to where the journey began. First cut really is the deepest. No car can give what was free in the first one. Virginity lost is gone forever.

I drove slowly along a decrepit road beside a creek with the windows down, the roof open, just smelling the air the other day. I smelled yesterday, saw it around me. I drove in the mountains that, were all humans gone, would never notice. The sky's blues and grays, the sun through the trees, and the sound of birds were no different from forever ago. The bright foliage's bitter sweet beauty a tithe to fall.

That's what I want from life now. That's what I get. And amazingly, it doesn't take three or four hundred horsepower to get it. Who knew. I just had to remember. My Subaru Impreza takes me there.
My first taste of freedom, because that's what a car used to be to me, was in something wholly mechanical, even had a manual choke on the carb. No radio, well it had one, but it didn't work. No AC, it kinda had heat. It was about dropping the windows and going for a drive, keeping fuel in the tank and air in the tires as you stated.

Somewhere between that first car and now (vehicle number 9? I'm probably forgetting some along the way) a car/truck became more than a want, it became a need, and that's where cars went south for me, maybe it's why I don't love my current car the way I loved my first few tastes of freedom, because I didn't buy it because I wanted it, I bought it because I needed it, and I didn't buy it for the sole purpose of driving, i bought it to be a reliable & safe way to get me to and from work, and ferry my family around, and make trips to the hardware store and grocery store.

It's probably the same reason I always look fondly on my bikes, I bought them because I wanted them, and admittedly I preferred some of the (relatively) "slower" ones over the faster ones because they handled better and I could use most, if not all, they had to offer on the street with a reasonable amount of safety (a 200mph highway blitz in full leathers is not my idea of safe btw).

It's also probably why I am drawn to more mechanical cars with fewer nannies, because I remember those the fondest, and although they aren't fast by today's standards, they were fun.

Maybe one of these days I won't need a car anymore and I'll be able to truly enjoy them again, but what is more likely is that in 13ish years when my son goes off to college, I'll get back on two wheels again.
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:24 AM   #164
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Tell me about it. Want a 2020 M2C bad, but $60K worth $40K (or less) in 3 years is a tough pill...especially as Id probably drop another $8K-$10K into it.

Depreciation is a bitch. My FXT is worth half (or less) of what I paid 5y ago.
M2C yummy! Its rough being a car enthusiast in California. Adding the 10% cost of tax and license to the high depreciation the cars i like have make it really difficult to drive what i want. It just ends up being such an incredible loss of money its staggering.

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Old 09-18-2019, 11:09 AM   #165
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I may just get a 2020 Civic Si and drive that for a couple years until a new STi has been out for a year or so. I just cant seem to find anything i really like at $40k. I bought my 2015 wrx in June of 2014 and it sucked waiting for aftermarket parts to trickle out, so i dont really want to go through the same thing again. I like the S3 but i just cant justify spending $50k on a car that will be worth $30k in 3 years.
I traded in my 17 STI for a very gently used S3. The Audi was a year old with 8k miles. Original sticker was $53k, I bought it CPO for $38k. After a simple flash at home tune for 93 octane and a dsg flash the car is rated at 375hp 350tq. It is an absolute blast! Zero regrets.
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M2C yummy! Its rough being a car enthusiast in California. Adding the 10% cost of tax and license to the high depreciation the cars i like have make it really difficult to drive what i want. It just ends up being such an incredible loss of money its staggering.
Meh... IMO, if you keep the vehicle long enough, the "loss" is mitigated (kind of) since depreciation rate typically slows down drastically in later years.
Typically, I don't worry too much about depreciation because, I end up driving/keeping my cars for at least 6 to 8 years.
Any "loss" has been well amortized by then.
What's for sure is that we're all getting old waiting around for Subaru; so my attitude, at the moment, is to buy or lease what I really want to drive regardless of brand or forecasted depreciation.
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Meh... IMO, if you keep the vehicle long enough, the "loss" is mitigated (kind of) since depreciation rate typically slows down drastically in later years.
Typically, I don't worry too much about depreciation because, I end up driving/keeping my cars for at least 6 to 8 years.
Any "loss" has been well amortized by then.
What's for sure is that we're all getting old waiting around for Subaru; so my attitude, at the moment, is to buy or lease what I really want to drive regardless of brand or forecasted depreciation.
I'm kinda with you on this one, I tend to keep cars a long time myself, the problem is I'm not comfortable keeping one of the Germans or a modern Volvo outside of warranty, so depreciation/resale becomes an important factor as I'll want to unload it before the inevitable.

I'm not trying to say my Subaru has been trouble free, just that all parts are significantly cheaper, and it didn't require special tools to work on it.
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Although I'll not get another STi, I'm still excited to read all about the new one when it comes out. That's what I did before I got mine and it's what I've always done... tasting cars in my mind whether I intend to own them or not. Porn of another kind.

After a long satisfying life pursuing cars' performance, vicarious or actual, I have to tell you it's nice to break from that cycle. A lot of years and too many cars have taught me a couple of things, it's nice to have a lot of power, but it's frustrating to be unable to use it. Meantime you're stuck in the real world among the legions of comatose drivers who are more aware of everything else but their vehicles. Four more wheels on the chugging transportation train to everywhere.

For the most part being on the road is about everything but performance... especially if your idea of performance is 90% motor, with the rest being what enables that motor to do its thing. Brakes to haul it down, transmission to take its abuse, tires to keep it on the tarmac, and trace amounts of anything else. Meanwhie, there you are, an ant in an endless line of ants headed to and from with all that armament, satisfying only in its potentials just like it did in the magazines.

And even when we have what we lusted for to drive, it's never enough. More power, more luxury, higher cornering forces, better bigger tires and brakes, gadgets and gizmos and sleeker better cars steal the pleasure of satisfaction with what you have at the moment. It's a never ending cycle, a hunger never satisfied. Because even if you are satisfied, you have modified to perfection, you couldn't be happier... it never lasts. "It" gets old, tired, and too often smashed. A memory.

So I decided to get off that grid. Revisit the world I once knew, when a car meant freedom, new places and a chance to see the world. When even the wind rushing by made us want to feel it, smell it, hear it. Back seats, and what they meant. Passengers to conspire with. Endless places that called. The mystery of life out there more intoxicating than anything else. Keep gas in it, the tires pumped up, and go. What happened to that? We get older and jaded. We settled down to life, or it settled upon us.

New cars with more stuff trying to mask the boring reality of routine existence. When we can't go back to where the journey began. First cut really is the deepest. No car can give what was free in the first one. Virginity lost is gone forever.

I drove slowly along a decrepit road beside a creek with the windows down, the roof open, just smelling the air the other day. I smelled yesterday, saw it around me. I drove in the mountains that, were all humans gone, would never notice. The sky's blues and grays, the sun through the trees, and the sound of birds were no different from forever ago. The bright foliage's bitter sweet beauty a tithe to fall.

That's what I want from life now. That's what I get. And amazingly, it doesn't take three or four hundred horsepower to get it. Who knew. I just had to remember. My Subaru Impreza takes me there.
I only skimmed this wall of text, but congrats on buying your first motorcycle? If you didn't buy one.. it's time to. No car will give you the visceral thrill and exposure to nature that a motorcycle will.
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I may just get a 2020 Civic Si and drive that for a couple years until a new STi has been out for a year or so. I just cant seem to find anything i really like at $40k. I bought my 2015 wrx in June of 2014 and it sucked waiting for aftermarket parts to trickle out, so i dont really want to go through the same thing again. I like the S3 but i just cant justify spending $50k on a car that will be worth $30k in 3 years.
That's what I did. I purchased a civic type R for 36 and change waiting for the new sti or evo.
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I only skimmed this wall of text, but congrats on buying your first motorcycle? If you didn't buy one.. it's time to. No car will give you the visceral thrill and exposure to nature that a motorcycle will.
Really? Do tell. And about the left handed advice... definitely defining.

I happen to know a little about motorcycles, too. Thirty five years worth of sportbikes were my adrenalin fix after I sold my race car.

And although my last is still in my garage, it has sat unridden for more than a decade while I explored cars again. Done with that phase I've moved on, but you wouldn't know that. It takes reading and comprehension instead of a giggle and poke.

Too little time to do one thing at the expense of learning new, my boy. Wear one pastime out and move on. Try it. Maybe talk a few of the others here to try it with you. The unfunny childishness in this room, far too much sophomoric snark, and the moral ethics of a clan gets stultifying at times. A vacation would do your type good.

Sometimes walls of text are mirrors reflecting you back at you. But if all you see is the other dog, go ahead and bark. It's cute.

Meanwhile, I like talking about Imprezas... it is NASImprezaOC after all.

But you are right about bikes. Every road is one first learned on my bikes, over 75k in this state's mountains alone have imprinted in me a connection with the surface and texture of all of them. Driving my car on them is memories revisited. Not as thrilling, not as life threatening, and not as poignant... but able to satisfy things impossible in the saddle. Peace along the corridors of passage, in place of fury and madness. Everything has a place and a time.

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Weird.. when I was still writing walls of text on here you wouldn't ST*U about your Forester.
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Weird.. when I was still writing walls of text on here you wouldn't ST*U about your Forester.
My apologies. I am chastised and chagrined and have earned your reproaches.

Text away. I enjoy yours. My Forester wasn't my idea, but when I commit sometimes I get carried away with the charade.

I chose my Impreza on purpose. It's my turn and I'm enjoying the piss out of it. If being positive about my choices and sharing bothers you, this time it's on me. Insult away. I'm used to it... here. Elsewhere? Not so much.
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Old 09-18-2019, 07:22 PM   #173
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The WRX and STI used to be Imprezas. Subaru marketing killed that.

When this forum was created by a couple dudes there was only the Impreza 2.5RS. Nothing to write a wall of text or any text over much the same as the current Impreza. That said is still is cool to open my garage door and see one parked inside.
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Old 09-18-2019, 07:55 PM   #174
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Ah... miss my 2.5RS. First blue/gold in the state! Had to drive to Omaha, NE to get it.
Good times. Life was less complicated back then.
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Old 09-18-2019, 08:00 PM   #175
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The WRX and STI used to be Imprezas. Subaru marketing killed that.

When this forum was created by a couple dudes there was only the Impreza 2.5RS. Nothing to write a wall of text or any text over much the same as the current Impreza. That said is still is cool to open my garage door and see one parked inside.
To be fair, however, isn't every review, every program on Top Gear really just a wall of text, with a subtext of substance. It's the nature of cars... and meets, open hoods surrounded by those whose personal experiences resonate with the gathered. Emotions aren't quantifiable like 0-60, explainable by numbers. They take words. And the more complex and deep the more the words.

And you embodied the same in your open garage door. Once in a while a car is worth our attachment. Of all their cars, I've never read such overwhelming praise for what Subaru did with the Gen5 Impreza, from everyone. Owners love them. And if you filter out the usual criticism about power and CVTs in general, every professional review has only superlatives for the platform.

I almost bought a 2.5RS. It was highly spoken of by the local dealer. But I wanted a WRX. When the LGt came out I got the first one I saw. I never looked at an Impreza again, until the moment I entered the dealership the evening I got mine.

I'm glad one is in my garage, even though it may not be there as long as your RS, I'm glad it's there for much the same reasons yours is... something about it is worth having and enjoying a long time.
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