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Old 03-28-2019, 01:20 PM   #26
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Now that I look again it's not as close as I thought but my eyes still want to make me see it.




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Old 03-28-2019, 02:06 PM   #27
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Man, I really do like the Stinger. Every time I see one I do a double take. If this was badged as a higher end luxury manufacturer with maybe glossier pant, it would sell like no other.
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:16 PM   #29
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Man, I really do like the Stinger. Every time I see one I do a double take. If this was badged as a higher end luxury manufacturer with maybe glossier pant, it would sell like no other.
Yeah I see several in my area. There is a brighter blue one that looks good. I would be all over a used/CPO one, I suspect the depreciation on these things is pretty high.
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Old 03-29-2019, 03:16 PM   #30
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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...l-wheel-drive/

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Hyundai is "currently reviewing" the need for an all-wheel-drive Sonata in the US.

The 2020 Hyundai Sonata will arrive in US showrooms later this year, with bold styling and lots of new driver-assistance technologies. The rakish sedan rides on a brand-new platform, and Hyundai says the Sonata could eventually be offered with all-wheel drive because of that -- a first for the model.

When specifically asked about the possibility of an all-wheel-drive Sonata during a press briefing in Seoul, South Korea on Wednesday, Jae Young Kim, the director of Hyundai's product division, said, "Yes ... we are currently reviewing the need for all-wheel drive in [the US] market."

The 2020 Sonata's platform -- called N3 internally -- will go on to underpin a number of other vehicles, including crossovers and SUVs. Because of that, the N3 chassis has been designed to support all-wheel drive from the get-go.

More at the link above...
Putting Subaru on notice with the new Legacy I think....

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Old 03-29-2019, 05:08 PM   #31
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Man, I really do like the Stinger. Every time I see one I do a double take. If this was badged as a higher end luxury manufacturer with maybe glossier pant, it would sell like no other.
Genesis G70. Same car, better badge (well, with a trunk, and slightly shorter, ...)
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Genesis G70. Same car, better badge (well, with a trunk, and slightly shorter, ...)
Donít really care what badge is on the car and think the stinger looks better.
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Old 03-30-2019, 06:40 PM   #33
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Hyundai could make a turbo AWD Sonata variant part of their "N" line.
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ANN ARBOR, Mich. ó The redesigned 2020 Hyundai Sonata midsize sedan, which features new standard safety technology, a new engine option, a new optional smartphone key and remote parking assist, will start at $24,330, including shipping, when it starts reaching showrooms this month.

The base SE, $750 more than the 2019 model, gets several upgrades as standard equipment:

New Smartstream 2.5-liter engine with 191 hp, compared with 185 hp in the '19 Sonata

Eight-speed transmission, vs. the '19's six-speed

32 mpg vs. 29 mpg in the 2019

8-inch LCD monitor, larger by 1 inch

SmartSense safety features including forward collision avoidance, lane keeping, driver attention warning and smart cruise control.

The midlevel SEL trim starts at $26,430, including shipping. A $1,200 convenience package adds Hyundai's digital key, a 12.3-inch LCD instrument cluster, wireless device charging and more.

The SEL Plus swaps in a 1.6-liter turbo engine and adds paddle shifters.

The $34,230 top-of-the-line Limited has the 1.6-liter engine and comes with the digital key, a color head-up display, blind-spot collision warning and remote smart parking assist, which allows the driver to move the car into or out of a parking space.

The Alabama-built Sonata, with its elegant design, generated positive buzz at this year's New York auto show. Dealers will see whether that buzz translates into sales. Through the first 10 months of the year, volume dropped 16 percent to 77,430 deliveries.
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:32 AM   #35
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I like where Hyundai is taking their designs. But, no AWD...

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Old 11-08-2019, 11:20 AM   #36
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I like where Hyundai is taking their designs. But, no AWD...

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Grab a G70 AWD

I'm wishing my Cadenza was AWD, so I may move to a Stinger AWD in the future. It's a bit smaller, and doesn't have panoramic sunroof like the Cadenza, but it's sportier.

Kia has put the 3.3TT and AWD in the new K900, so maybe they'll put it in more models in the future.

Time will tell, but I'm finding Kia is just like Subaru: the features you want, in the model you want, are a few years in the future, every time.
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:44 AM   #37
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Yeah. I think Genesis/Hyundai learned from the others. AWD will be in upscale models, just like Toyota/Honda/Nissan.

I don't fit in the Stinger. Sunroof comes down too much and my head rubs. The Genesis fits like a glove.

One of the things I don't like about the G70, and the wife too, is the B pillar is by your shoulder, so your shoulder isn't by the door/window. I know they're doing this for occupant safety... but stil.

Rumor mill says there's going to be a 3.5TT soon... And maybe a coupe. https://thekoreancarblog.com/2019/04...-coupe-render/ If they bring the coupe, I'm very much in.

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Old 11-08-2019, 12:13 PM   #38
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3.5TT sounds awesome! It probably means a 3.5 non-turbo as well. That would be a nice little bump from the current 3.3. It might push it over 300 hp with better torque.

So if that new model is the G70 coupe, it may get named G60. Or maybe there's a new G70 coupe plus an unknown G60 (and then a bunch of potential GT models to go with them)
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Old 02-07-2020, 06:20 AM   #39
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Hyundai’s new Sonata Hybrid has an EPA-estimated range of 686 miles

We’ve seen the Hyundai Sonata Hybrid taking a bow at the 2019 Seoul Motor Show but it’s now time for the sedan to step on U.S. soil via the 2020 Chicago Motor Show.

Since this is a hybrid we’re dealing with, we shall start off by briefing you on the drivetrain. The 2020 Sonata mixes a 2.0-liter, four-cylinder GDI gasoline unit bolted to a six-speed "hybrid" automatic gearbox and an electric motor fed by a Li-ion battery pack. The ICE (internal combustion engine) delivers 150 horsepower and 139 pound-feet of torque, supplemented by the e-motor’s 39 kW (51 horsepower) and 151 pound-feet of torque for a combined system output of 192 horsepower. Kia doesn’t specify the overall torque figure for the 2020 Sonata, though.

What Hyundai does mention, however, relates to the sedan’s fuel economy figures. As per the Korean carmaker, the 2020 Sonata Hybrid returns 50 mpg city, 54 mpg highway, and 52 mpg combined when the Blue trim is specified. Max range is 686 miles (EPA estimate). That’s not too bad, is it?

Working towards meeting those figures is the Active Shift Control tech. What it does, essentially, is tweak the gearbox’s efficiency by monitoring gear shifts 500 times per second. In turn, it adjusts the transmission rotation speed for faster shifts, but it also works with the car’s hybrid control unit to align the e-motor with the rotational speed of the engine and transmission. The result: 30 percent crisper, smoother gear shifts, at least in theory.

Hyundai’s designers managed to bake a 0.24 drag coefficient into the 2020 Sonata Hybrid’s body by using active air flaps behind the front grille and a redesigned rear spoiler for a smoother airflow. Cutting down on underbody drag was also a priority, so the 2020 Sonata Hybrid comes with the following bits and bobs:

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Gasoline Engine Size 2.0L I4 GDI 2.5L I4 GDI

HP/Torque (lb.-ft.) 150 / 139 176 / 163 143 / 129

Electric Motor kW (HP) 39 kW (51 HP) 88 kW (118 HP)

Voltage 270V 259V N/A

Net Horsepower 192 HP 208 HP 212 HP

Fuel Economy (city/hwy./comb.) EPA estimates 50/54/52 – Blue
45/51/47 – SEL, Limited 51/53/52 – LE 44/47/46 – SE, XLE

The 2.0-liter engine delivers 150 HP,and 129 pound-feet of torque. You can even get 700 free miles per year. And as much as 54 mpg on the highway. Up to 52 mpg combined fuel economy. While the electric motor delivers another 51 ponies. Making a total system output of 192 HP and decent fit and finish The interior features typical Hyundai Qualit. Thanks to this fancy solar roof. Hyundai says it can recover about 2 miles worth of energy each day.








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Old 02-07-2020, 09:01 AM   #40
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So, "free" 700 miles per year, in a car that gets 50mpg. That's 14 gallons of gas saved. At $2.50 gallon, you're saving a whopping $35/year. (Or, you can feed a family of 4 at McDonalds). I'm thinking those panels cost more than $350 (if you owned the car for 10 years) and add more weight than needed to the roof and wiring. Economical sense, these do not make.

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So, "free" 700 miles per year, in a car that gets 50mpg. That's 14 gallons of gas saved. At $2.50 gallon, you're saving a whopping $35/year. (Or, you can feed a family of 4 at McDonalds). I'm thinking those panels cost more than $350 (if you owned the car for 10 years) and add more weight than needed to the roof and wiring. Economical sense, these do not make.

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I agree with everything you said... but... kudos to Hyundai for trying things out and seeing what the market has to say about them. The moment they make an N car with AWD Iím shooting Subaru the peace sign and jumping ship.
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I agree with everything you said... but... kudos to Hyundai for trying things out and seeing what the market has to say about them. The moment they make an N car with AWD Iím shooting Subaru the peace sign and jumping ship.
I'm seriously tempted by the AWD Stinger 3.3TT - that's close enough to N.
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Old 02-11-2020, 05:38 PM   #43
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Looks better than the Stinger..

Probably only a matter of time someone gets hurt with their auto-park feature.
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Old 02-11-2020, 07:24 PM   #44
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Looks better than the Stinger..

Probably only a matter of time someone gets hurt with their auto-park feature.
the auto pahk commercial was spectacular though...
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Old 02-11-2020, 07:35 PM   #45
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Indeed..!
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Old 02-12-2020, 04:59 AM   #46
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bye bye bigger gas tank looks like new gen has been reduced
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