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Old 12-01-2019, 09:43 AM   #1
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Default Subaru recall of the week

"Recalls. It's What Makes A Subaru A Subaru."

"Subaru announced another global recall for certain Forester and Crosstrek models is coming for suspension and engine problems."


https://www.torquenews.com/1084/anot...osstrek-coming


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Old 12-01-2019, 10:14 AM   #2
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An STI would be the perfect car for my lifestyle, but man... Subaru quality seems so hit or miss.

After a bunch of early QC problems, my wife's 2019 Outback has been fine but still. Not a great feeling.
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Old 12-01-2019, 02:28 PM   #3
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“Engine valves that can fail”

Damn Subaru, can you make an engine that doesn’t have problems? This is ridiculous. Take your Subaru in for the recall work to get new valves and they put some rookie on your car, and it becomes a nightmare. They have some serious issues as this just keeps happening.
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Old 12-01-2019, 02:29 PM   #4
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I wanted to buy a new Subaru because of their awesome AWD but with all the quality control problems, I looking more towards Toyota even though their AWD system is inferior.
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Old 12-01-2019, 04:22 PM   #5
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It starts to get a bad habit. I am dad about it really.
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Old 12-01-2019, 04:39 PM   #6
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I wanted to buy a new Subaru because of their awesome AWD but with all the quality control problems, I looking more towards Toyota even though their AWD system is inferior.
got a Mitsubishi Outlander Sport for my wife 4 years ago, and my mom got an Eclipse Cross last year. no issues, AWD is as good or better than Subaru ...
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Old 12-01-2019, 05:51 PM   #7
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Yikes. I chose 2nd model year on this Ascent, thank goodness. Dodged a LOT of epic failures.
Still some known issues waiting on recalls, but dang Subaru.
The ‘19 and early-build ‘20 Ascents just got a mandatory TSB to reflash the CVT controller as it was partially responsible for destroying CVTs.
I pity the first-year next new STI buyers. And I might be one of ‘em..

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Old 12-01-2019, 07:21 PM   #8
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Seriously? Don't get me started on honda recalls. Oh wait...and Toyota. Toyota had valve recalls as well, not to mention the plethora of other recalls they have, and they make quality vehicles for the most part. It's as if some people here believe Subaru is being overwhelmed with recalls, you have no idea.


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i, like most of Off Topic, no longer own a Subaru and just enjoy OT. i also check out News & Rumors for the news, and the laughs in the Subaru portion.

i have no intention of ever owning another Subaru.

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Old 12-01-2019, 08:39 PM   #9
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My sisterís Ď19 Ascent has some CVT issues and right front strut failure within 6 months of ownership. Hopefully no more issues.
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Old 12-02-2019, 12:57 AM   #10
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But have Honda and Toyota had as many problems with engine oil consumption??? This seems like a major problem with all new Subaru's.

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Seriously? Don't get me started on honda recalls. Oh wait...and Toyota. Toyota had valve recalls as well, not to mention the plethora of other recalls they have, and they make quality vehicles for the most part. It's as if some people here believe Subaru is being overwhelmed with recalls, you have no idea. Always the anti Subaru people here trying to stir up nonsense.

You obviously only post on this site to be a prick.
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:52 AM   #11
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But have Honda and Toyota had as many problems with engine oil consumption??? This seems like a major problem with all new Subaru's.

Honda has oil consumption bulletins in some four cylinders and the VCM oil consumption in a lot of v6 vehicles. Those bulletins and recalls have existed for many years.

I am talking about the shear number of recalls, because some people are constantly trying to shed a negative light on the Subaru brand, on a Subaru enthusiast site...even though they don't own one. Subaru doesn't have tons of recalls, if you compare them to the numbers from other brands. My 95 had one recall and my 2007 had one recall, but that's not unreasonable.

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Old 12-02-2019, 09:06 AM   #12
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I am talking about the shear number of recalls, because some people are constantly trying to shed a negative light on the Subaru brand, on a Subaru enthusiast site...even though they don't own one. Subaru doesn't have tons of recalls, if you compare them to the numbers from other brands.

Subaru's White Knight, here to defend their honor and good reputation!

i had 4 Subarus - i liked them at first, but realized each one got progressively worse and less reliable. i am not a fanboi of any brand - i will tend to stick with something if i like it, but i won't wear rose-colored glasses and pretend nothing is wrong if there is.

if you are a dealer or somehow associated with Subaru i can understand, but as a non-paid blind fanboi, it makes no sense. are you just justifying your purchase?
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:29 AM   #13
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I am talking about the shear number of recalls, because some people are constantly trying to shed a negative light on the Subaru brand, on a Subaru enthusiast site...even though they don't own one. Subaru doesn't have tons of recalls, if you compare them to the numbers from other brands. My 95 had one recall and my 2007 had one recall, but that's not unreasonable. Do you see me griping about it and trying to smear their image?
I have 5 so far on my 2017 Impreza.

That's not an insignificant amount. (Granted, it's really 4 as they had to publish two for the PCV becuase 2 different designs a car may have).

Spend some time on the https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls site and compare cars, and be sure to look at the number of cars effected in the recall.

Example, the 2017 Civic has 4 recalls, 1 for incorrect info in a manual, 2 that effect 65 and 55 cars, and then the last one is about 5k cars for the halfshaft.

The 2017 Corolla has 2, 1 for a label (1300 cars) and 1 for the spare tire pressure being incorrect (409 cars).

2017 Mazda 3? 1 Recall for wipers.

Yet, my Impreza? The PCV recall is on 200k+ cars.

It's not the fact that Subaru has had *some* recalls. Yes, many/most will have recalls in some of their cars. However, look at the number of cars effected in the recall. Many mfrs, it doesn't effect the entire line, but just a select number of vehicles.

2018 Alfa Giulia? A car that has a reputation "because Alfa Romeo?" 0 Recalls.

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Old 12-02-2019, 12:34 PM   #14
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I've had one recall, so far, for my '19 Impreza.

That recall took 30 minutes to reflash the ECU and get my car back to me.

The ECU reflash was to correct a possible ignition issue... and in the process did far more for the real day to day driving experience than easily described.

IMHO that's going above and beyond for the consumer, and speaks volumes for the manufacturer's corporate mantra.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:43 PM   #15
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Yikes. I chose 2nd model year on this Ascent, thank goodness. Dodged a LOT of epic failures.
Still some known issues waiting on recalls, but dang Subaru.
The Ď19 and early-build Ď20 Ascents just got a mandatory TSB to reflash the CVT controller as it was partially responsible for destroying CVTs.
I pity the first-year next new STI buyers. And I might be one of Ďem..
I've got an early 2019 Ascent. I can't find any info on this though. Does "mandatory" mean there will be a recall?
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:11 PM   #16
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It says 2013-2018 Crosstrek, so it includes both first and second generation cars? Or is there a mistake here?

We haven't even been able to get the other recalls fixed on our 2018 yet.
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Subaru's White Knight, here to defend their honor and good reputation!

i had 4 Subarus - i liked them at first, but realized each one got progressively worse and less reliable. i am not a fanboi of any brand - i will tend to stick with something if i like it, but i won't wear rose-colored glasses and pretend nothing is wrong if there is.

if you are a dealer or somehow associated with Subaru i can understand, but as a non-paid blind fanboi, it makes no sense. are you just justifying your purchase?
I've worked on both brands of vehicles for both dealers. I have no reason to make anything, nor bash a good vehicle brand. Have never worked for Subaru, but obviously working on them daily would give a lot of insight that outsiders wouldn't have. Maybe a current Subaru tech should contribute.

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Old 12-02-2019, 11:27 PM   #18
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If you reported me for my first post, congratulations. It's the first time I've received points my entire time being a member here.
You already said this above in your other post.

It was probably for you calling another member a prick. People are allowed to voice their opinions, even if itís an opinion you donít like.
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I've got an early 2019 Ascent. I can't find any info on this though. Does "mandatory" mean there will be a recall?
Guarantee your VIN is in scope of the TSB. Just go see your dealer.

https://www.ascentforums.com/threads...concerns.9080/
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Honda has oil consumption bulletins in some four cylinders and the VCM oil consumption in a lot of v6 vehicles. Those bulletins and recalls have existed for many years.

I am talking about the shear number of recalls, because some people are constantly trying to shed a negative light on the Subaru brand, on a Subaru enthusiast site...even though they don't own one. Subaru doesn't have tons of recalls, if you compare them to the numbers from other brands. My 95 had one recall and my 2007 had one recall, but that's not unreasonable. Do you see me griping about it and trying to smear their image?


I also got an infraction for giving my opinion on why they do it, so have to be careful what I say. First infraction I've received since I've joined this site.
I am talking about newer Subaru's from 2013 to present. There were 3 models affected according to the oil consumption class action lawsuit, Crosstrek, Forester and Impreza spanning across 3 years from 2013-2016 if I remember correctly. Not sure what Subaru has done in the last three years to address those problems, I can't find much information out there and Subaru didn't exactly admit to the problems hence the lawsuit.
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I've got an early 2019 Ascent. I can't find any info on this though. Does "mandatory" mean there will be a recall?
https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls

Put in your Vin.

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^^ This is not a recall (yet.) Just a preventative TSB.
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:26 AM   #23
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4 of my 5 subies have been extremely reliable. My one unreliable subaru (‘09 STi) was still more reliable than half of the other 6 cars I’ve owned beyond the subaru’s.
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:53 AM   #24
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I've worked on both brands of vehicles for both dealers, and have previously mentioned it in other threads where you also happened to be bragging about your magically flawless mitsubishis. Maybe you're trying to make yourself feel better about being a mitsubishi fanboi. It's just odd you stay motivated enough in your disdain for the brand that you continue returning here to try and find yet another way to bash Subaru. I would never waste time visiting a forum for a vehicle I don't own. Not really sure how it could benefit you to keep it up, but hey we all need hobbies.

If you reported me for my first post, congratulations. It's the first time I've received points my entire time being a member here.

nope, not a Mitsu fanboi - i don't even have one (wife does). if, for whatever reason, it gives me a bunch of problems ... its gone! i won't be a fool and continue to give them my money.

at least 1/2 or more of the OT forum here do not own Subarus anymore. i wouldn't really consider taking a minute or less skimming the News & Rumors forum every once in a while a major hobby, but if it makes you feel better, that is my hobby.

the problem with Subaru is that their recalls are typically for catastrophic big-ticket failures, not minor crap like most other cars i've had.
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"Recalls. It's What Makes A Subaru A Subaru."

"Subaru announced another global recall for certain Forester and Crosstrek models is coming for suspension and engine problems."


https://www.torquenews.com/1084/anot...osstrek-coming


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Well. Let's get this updated. They have recently changed it to

"...It's what makes Subaru, Subaru".



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But have Honda and Toyota had as many problems with engine oil consumption??? This seems like a major problem with all new Subaru's.
That was several years ago as the "problem" engines. Not "new" Subarus. And certainly not "all" Subarus.


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Honda has oil consumption bulletins in some four cylinders and the VCM oil consumption in a lot of v6 vehicles. Those bulletins and recalls have existed for many years.

I am talking about the shear number of recalls, because some people are constantly trying to shed a negative light on the Subaru brand, on a Subaru enthusiast site...even though they don't own one. Subaru doesn't have tons of recalls, if you compare them to the numbers from other brands. My 95 had one recall and my 2007 had one recall, but that's not unreasonable. Do you see me griping about it and trying to smear their image?


I also got an infraction for giving my opinion on why they do it, so have to be careful what I say. First infraction I've received since I've joined this site.
In the past, when customers asked about reliability, I certainly "compared" to other manufacturers. Because Subaru had next to nothing. At this point, I don't care to compare to other manufacturers. I am comparing them to themselves and the decades of not having sooooooo many of them. The title of this threat is sadly accurate. It seems there have been more recalls THIS year, than I think all the years I have been at Subaru combined. I'm afraid to go and try and count them.

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I've got an early 2019 Ascent. I can't find any info on this though. Does "mandatory" mean there will be a recall?

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Guarantee your VIN is in scope of the TSB. Just go see your dealer.

https://www.ascentforums.com/threads...concerns.9080/
It's relatively new. You will get a notification. And from the number I saw, you are most likely included.


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I am talking about newer Subaru's from 2013 to present. There were 3 models affected according to the oil consumption class action lawsuit, Crosstrek, Forester and Impreza spanning across 3 years from 2013-2016 if I remember correctly. Not sure what Subaru has done in the last three years to address those problems, I can't find much information out there and Subaru didn't exactly admit to the problems hence the lawsuit.

I don't think they admitted to it because it is pretty random. A lot of them do; but, many of them don't. Why? Dunno. I thought it was weird. I know people that have never had an issue. And I have seen plenty of engines in the back torn apart because of it. But, as I said above, and you just said it here, it's been a few years.
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