Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Sunday February 28, 2021
Home Forums Images WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
Click here to visit TireRack
Tire & Wheel Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack

Losing traction? Need new tires?
Click here to visit the NASIOC Upgrade Garage...
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Tire & Wheel

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.







* As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. 
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-21-2019, 03:13 PM   #7426
PDXGSXR
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 374344
Join Date: Nov 2013
Default Bump for Sottozeros

Was reading the thread and see a lot of tire options but seems like the Pirelli Sottozero 3's have fallen out of favor a bit in the recommendations.

Just want to throw those out there again for the people looking for a performance winter tire. I just ordered my second set after three seasons of many ski trips and drives over the passes here in the Northwest - IE snow, ice, slush, wet snow, dry snow, deep snow, thin snow and everything in between.

The Pirellis have had great traction in all of the above but retain plenty of dry/wet grip/handling - the steering response is better than my old Conti DW's in fact. W/ Subaru AWD and low weight/CG in these cars I don't see any reason to go with a more aggressive snow tire unless you live above the snow line or in a place that sees regular freezing rain etc.

They stand up to a bit of hard driving as well but be aware that with the soft compound you risk damaging/smearing the siping if you really push it regularly (especially in warmer temps) - as is the case with all winter tires.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

Last edited by PDXGSXR; 11-21-2019 at 03:19 PM.
PDXGSXR is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 11-21-2019, 03:37 PM   #7427
tokksic
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 441539
Join Date: Feb 2016
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Location: Eastern Time Zone
Vehicle:
2015 WRX
Silver

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PDXGSXR View Post
Was reading the thread and see a lot of tire options but seems like the Pirelli Sottozero 3's have fallen out of favor a bit in the recommendations.

Just want to throw those out there again for the people looking for a performance winter tire. I just ordered my second set after three seasons of many ski trips and drives over the passes here in the Northwest - IE snow, ice, slush, wet snow, dry snow, deep snow, thin snow and everything in between.

The Pirellis have had great traction in all of the above but retain plenty of dry/wet grip/handling - the steering response is better than my old Conti DW's in fact. W/ Subaru AWD and low weight/CG in these cars I don't see any reason to go with a more aggressive snow tire unless you live above the snow line or in a place that sees regular freezing rain etc.

They stand up to a bit of hard driving as well but be aware that with the soft compound you risk damaging/smearing the siping if you really push it regularly (especially in warmer temps) - as is the case with all winter tires.
Glad to read this, as I just had these tires delivered. I wanted a performance winter tire- had Hankook iPikes before, but my climate was always plowed roads or slushee snow. They were too soft for those roads, I anticipate the Sottozeros will be perfect for minimal snow/slush/paved roads and cold temps.
tokksic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2020, 09:05 AM   #7428
T-Madj
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 516428
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Denverish, CO
Vehicle:
2020 WRX STi
MGM

Default

New Pirelli P Zero Winter

Thinking about trying these out this winter in Colorado. No ratings yet, but they look like they have promise. https://m.tirerack.com/tires/tires.j...=WinterSection
T-Madj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2020, 03:46 PM   #7429
serrilion
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 348982
Join Date: Mar 2013
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: Shoreham, VT
Vehicle:
03 OBS
Black

Default

The Pirelli's look like they are banking on deep snow traction on the outer part of the tire and normal pavement style driving on the inside. I would be curios to see how these preform, also if they come studded and whats the price point. I live in Vermont were Nokian's dominate our state for winter tires, used to run WRG3's year around with out issue
serrilion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2020, 08:13 PM   #7430
T-Madj
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 516428
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Denverish, CO
Vehicle:
2020 WRX STi
MGM

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by serrilion View Post
The Pirelli's look like they are banking on deep snow traction on the outer part of the tire and normal pavement style driving on the inside. I would be curios to see how these preform, also if they come studded and whats the price point. I live in Vermont were Nokian's dominate our state for winter tires, used to run WRG3's year around with out issue
Per Tirerack, the P Zero Winter tires are not studdable. If they were it would be a $15 charge per tire. Mine came in the other day, so I look forward to testing them out in a couple of months.
T-Madj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2020, 12:52 AM   #7431
krzyss
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 8365
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Massachusetts
Vehicle:
2019 Mazda MX-5 RF
Machine Grey

Default

PZero Winter seem to be performance winter tires.
No studs for them.

Krzys
krzyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 10:34 AM   #7432
KoiQ
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 373393
Join Date: Nov 2013
Chapter/Region: W. Canada
Location: Calgary AB
Vehicle:
06 WRX Limited
Black

Default

What wheels and tires are you guys running with RT fender flares? I am very very very close to pulling the trigger on installing RTs but I was looking at options for winters and like.. with the wheel size you need for them, there are literally no winter tire options.

Need help finding winter tires and wheels to fit. (2015 wrx)


edit: the height of the car can be adjusted potentially to fit.
KoiQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2020, 11:08 PM   #7433
krzyss
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 8365
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Massachusetts
Vehicle:
2019 Mazda MX-5 RF
Machine Grey

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KoiQ View Post
What wheels and tires are you guys running with RT fender flares? I am very very very close to pulling the trigger on installing RTs but I was looking at options for winters and like.. with the wheel size you need for them, there are literally no winter tire options.

Need help finding winter tires and wheels to fit. (2015 wrx)


edit: the height of the car can be adjusted potentially to fit.
Not sure that I understand your problem.
Does it mean that with flares you will have too much room?

What are the tire sizes you are looking for? What was OE size?

Krzys
krzyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2020, 01:46 PM   #7434
OmahaSTI
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 519254
Join Date: Oct 2020
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Omaha, NE
Vehicle:
2019 Audi S4
Red

Default

I recently got the Pirelli PZero Winters on Sport Edition 18x8 A10-2's for my 2020 STI from tire rack. Unfortunately, I'll never be able to try them out as I sold the car already.....

Trying to figure out how I can post in the classifieds as I am sure someone on here will make use of them.
OmahaSTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2020, 07:20 PM   #7435
left footed whooten
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 44652
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Truckee, CA
Vehicle:
16 Colorado diesel
ATC Bobcat Pop-up

Default

Since youre new, you probably need to have a certain number of posts to post an ad. Check the forum rules.
left footed whooten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2020, 11:11 PM   #7436
OmahaSTI
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 519254
Join Date: Oct 2020
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Omaha, NE
Vehicle:
2019 Audi S4
Red

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by left footed whooten View Post
Since youre new, you probably need to have a certain number of posts to post an ad. Check the forum rules.
Thanks for that - I've now checked that out. Appreciate the pointer..
OmahaSTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2020, 03:58 PM   #7437
AdamBabikian
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 501327
Join Date: May 2019
Default

I have a 2019 STI and looking to buy a set of all seasons for my stock 19in wheels would I have any problems if I get tires that are 245/40R19.
AdamBabikian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2020, 01:29 PM   #7438
Eldiarslet
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 519672
Join Date: Oct 2020
Default

can i run 245 45 17 on my 06 sti if i run 225 25 17 as summertires?
Eldiarslet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2020, 01:23 AM   #7439
ST3EZZY_WRX
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 484895
Join Date: Apr 2018
Default

debating if I should start running 225/45 blizzaks or continue running barum 3hm 245/45?
located on west coast.
fyi dont reccomend barum's. horrible grip!
ST3EZZY_WRX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2020, 02:10 PM   #7440
krzyss
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 8365
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Massachusetts
Vehicle:
2019 Mazda MX-5 RF
Machine Grey

Default

West Coast runs from San Diego to Seattle.
You have also change of elevation from below sea level to quite high mountains.

You may have been anywhere in the USA with such spread of climates.

Krzy***347;
krzyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2020, 02:09 AM   #7441
Tyjamo87
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 520275
Join Date: Nov 2020
Default

Nokian HAKKAPELIITTA R3
Yokohama Blu Earth winter V905
Michelin X Ice Xi3

What would you choose?

Last edited by Tyjamo87; 11-29-2020 at 02:10 AM. Reason: Add
Tyjamo87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2020, 08:53 AM   #7442
soloz2
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 260128
Join Date: Oct 2010
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Western NY
Vehicle:
2019 WRX Limited
Lapis Blue Pearl

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyjamo87 View Post
Nokian HAKKAPELIITTA R3
Yokohama Blu Earth winter V905
Michelin X Ice Xi3

What would you choose?

I don't have experience with the Yoko's, but the Nokians over the Michelins hands down. I ran Xi3 on my old Outback and Crosstrek and currently have the Hakkas on my newer outback. Good tires. Not too soft on dry and good grip on snow and ice. Good deep snow traction as well.
soloz2 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2020, 09:29 PM   #7443
left footed whooten
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 44652
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Truckee, CA
Vehicle:
16 Colorado diesel
ATC Bobcat Pop-up

Default

Youll never regret hakkas
left footed whooten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2020, 09:53 PM   #7444
krzyss
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 8365
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Massachusetts
Vehicle:
2019 Mazda MX-5 RF
Machine Grey

Default

There are people who regret Hakka R3 in dry and wet.

Tyjamo87, what do you want from your winter tires?

I think 2 tires on your list are studless and one is performance winter.

Put: dry, wet, snow, ice, noise in order of importance and our suggestions may be better.

Krzys
krzyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 03:41 AM   #7445
Tyjamo87
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 520275
Join Date: Nov 2020
Default

I've just obtained my first Subaru, '07 WRX wagon Limited. It will be the snow car, but would really like to have good performance on the dry and wet too, which leaves me leaning toward the Michelin. This winter I'll still be in W. WA where the only snow is up on the mountains, for snowboarding. But next winter I'll be in Montana and want a proper snow tire, which at this point it seems would be the Hakka. Thanks all!
Tyjamo87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 08:37 AM   #7446
krzyss
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 8365
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Massachusetts
Vehicle:
2019 Mazda MX-5 RF
Machine Grey

Default

If you want good wet and dry performance you will trade ice and some snow performance for them. There is no free luch or tire that does everything very good.

Some would argue that "proper winter tire" has studs and that would be Hakkapellitta 9 factory studed but they may be illegal depending on location.

Krzy***347;
krzyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2020, 04:58 PM   #7447
left footed whooten
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 44652
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region: BAIC
Location: Truckee, CA
Vehicle:
16 Colorado diesel
ATC Bobcat Pop-up

Default

True, i never went r anything, just all the numbered ones except 5 and 6 i think. Bummer theyre not great on wet and dry, my rotiivas continue to impress in all conditions. Outperform my snow tires in snow

Dunno what tire people are using up there, heard of folks liking the goodyear up there but models are dofferent now
left footed whooten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2020, 01:54 AM   #7448
Tyjamo87
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 520275
Join Date: Nov 2020
Default

I opted for the new Michelin X Ice Snow.
Tyjamo87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2020, 05:29 PM   #7449
h2s
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 453454
Join Date: Aug 2016
Vehicle:
2017 WRX sport tech
Dark metallic grey

Default

17" wheels and WS80 on my 2017. So comfy
h2s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2020, 06:03 PM   #7450
Snow Drift
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 75071
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Long Island
Vehicle:
'19 xvPHEV,Tesla MY
05 08 11 WRX 18 STI 18TM3

Default

I ordered X-ICE Snow from TR for our Model Y in August but they got back ordered until the end of time.

So, I got Pirelli P Zero Winter.

I can't wait to try them in snow. On dry roads they grip so much better than the stock A/S.



Snow Drift is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
This here is the Android OS thread. All phones, news, general info welcome. under pressure Off-Topic 10849 12-13-2011 11:10 PM
WTB: Winter wheels/ or All season tires on wheels, or just all season tires! Robstunner MWSOC Private Classifieds 0 10-29-2009 12:42 PM
Winter Tires vs. All Season Tires wrx425 Tire & Wheel 22 01-16-2009 12:34 AM
same tire thread all around for AWD? MystikalDawn Newbies & FAQs 6 10-15-2008 12:28 PM
Anybody get tired of all your mods and go back to stock or somewhere in between?? Farnsrocket Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain (EJ Series Factory 2.0L Turbo) 31 09-11-2007 11:06 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2021 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.

As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.