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Old 12-13-2020, 09:43 PM   #26
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Personally, I like the CVT, but I hate the preprogrammed fake gear shifts. They shouldn't be there. I really liked the 2012 Impreza CVT when it first came out because it felt like a tiny, puny turbo continuously spooling and carrying the car along. To some degree it still feels like that in my current Impreza, but the shifts are really safe when the car's left in regular Drive mode. It feels better than a traditional automatic, so if they aren't going to put a nice ZF in the STI/Celica, I don't want it at all.
Agreed about the CVT in the 2012. The car was underpowered but the CVT functioned well without fake shift points. Subaru tuned the CVT like garbage though, before and after a tune was night and day.

On my second CVT now, Iíll never buy another Subaru CVT.

I mentioned it before, but itís funny that Subaru spent all the time and money developing a CVT, only to take what makes a CVT great IMO, and make it perform like a normal transmission.
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Old 12-13-2020, 10:21 PM   #27
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On my second CVT now, Iíll never buy another Subaru CVT.

I mentioned it before, but itís funny that Subaru spent all the time and money developing a CVT, only to take what makes a CVT great IMO, and make it perform like a normal transmission.
You can't see the CVT. For the lifestyle poseurs it's fine.
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Old 12-15-2020, 11:14 AM   #28
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Agreed about the CVT in the 2012. The car was underpowered but the CVT functioned well without fake shift points. Subaru tuned the CVT like garbage though, before and after a tune was night and day.

On my second CVT now, Iíll never buy another Subaru CVT.

I mentioned it before, but itís funny that Subaru spent all the time and money developing a CVT, only to take what makes a CVT great IMO, and make it perform like a normal transmission.
I would imagine that an easy, inexpensive programming fix could be made available?
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Old 12-18-2020, 09:12 AM   #29
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Old 12-18-2020, 09:57 AM   #30
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Thanks for posting.

Sadly, with no spy shots of a hatchback my interest wanes.
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:24 AM   #31
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Thanks for posting.

Sadly, with no spy shots of a hatchback my interest wanes.
For spy shots of a hatchback there would have to actually be a hatchback version which there is not. The WRX sedan shown above is shaping up to look pretty bland for sure. I'm not sure how a company can stretch a design 7 years on a model as with the current cars and make the replacement look nearly the same.
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:38 AM   #32
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For spy shots of a hatchback there would have to actually be a hatchback version which there is not. The WRX sedan shown above is shaping up to look pretty bland for sure. I'm not sure how a company can stretch a design 7 years on a model as with the current cars and make the replacement look nearly the same.
Haha, indeed I can't help but feel that looks awfully familiar.

If there's one thing I know about Subaru though, it's that despite how little any one piece of this car will have changed compared to the VA, the sum of the changes will drive WRX people nuts and they'll buy the hell out of them anyhow.
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:55 AM   #33
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Haha, indeed I can't help but feel that looks awfully familiar.

If there's one thing I know about Subaru though, it's that despite how little any one piece of this car will have changed compared to the VA, the sum of the changes will drive WRX people nuts and they'll buy the hell out of them anyhow.
It looks like a boring ass legacy.
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:11 AM   #34
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For spy shots of a hatchback there would have to actually be a hatchback version which there is not. The WRX sedan shown above is shaping up to look pretty bland for sure. I'm not sure how a company can stretch a design 7 years on a model as with the current cars and make the replacement look nearly the same.
This is current Subaru. The Forester, Outback, and Legacy all saw the same fate. The Impreza/Crosstrek probably saw the largest changes going to SGP and that is not saying a whole lot. I'm actually surprised how different the BRZ changed considering the rest of the lineup didn't but maybe that's Toyota's influence.

The new WRX might be looking bland but maybe it will be a bit more cohesive design than the VA.
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:13 AM   #35
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Looking real hard, cannot see any difference from current generation. If there is please someone point them out. Please !!!
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:18 AM   #36
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I know a new engine is on the way, along with some suspension tweaks, new platform but........
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:27 AM   #37
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The camo'd spy shots seem to show the rear fenders are more pronounced, but front fenders are less pronounced than the VA, so I don't think the new WRX is going to look "better" than the VA.
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:38 AM   #38
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Sadly, with no spy shots of a hatchback my interest wanes.

Welcome to 2014 Marty.
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:42 AM   #39
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To an average car buyer, the new WRX will probably be indistinguishable from the old one despite every single exterior feature being at least slightly changed.

The wheel well cladding is a huge question mark for me, I struggle to imagine that being a plus. The flares on the S209 are probably comparable and look gross and cheap to me.

WRX losing the big fake vent behind the front wheel is a bummer also. All of this is to say I think they wanted to tone down the WRX a little and/or plan to make the STI more distinguished from it as I expect it to look borderline Civic Type R ridiculous.
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:44 AM   #40
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Hey look, someone put a hood scoop on an impreza!
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Old 12-18-2020, 11:51 AM   #41
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Looking real hard, cannot see any difference from current generation. If there is please someone point them out. Please !!!
Door mirrors.
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Old 12-18-2020, 12:40 PM   #42
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Looks very similar to previous gen. Hope they made some changes "underneath the skin" as to evolve the model forward ala 911 style; Evolution not revolution...
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Old 12-18-2020, 01:02 PM   #43
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Hey look, someone put a hood scoop on an impreza!
Welcome to 2002. That's pretty much what the WRX was vs the Impreza.
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Old 12-18-2020, 01:06 PM   #44
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Welcome to 2002. That's pretty much what the WRX was vs the Impreza.
Was just poking the bear... there are a few people on here who drink the subaru juice that swear up and down that the wrx/sti are completely differentiated from the impreza.
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Old 12-18-2020, 01:09 PM   #45
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To an average car buyer, the new WRX will probably be indistinguishable from the old one despite every single exterior feature being at least slightly changed.

The wheel well cladding is a huge question mark for me, I struggle to imagine that being a plus. The flares on the S209 are probably comparable and look gross and cheap to me.

WRX losing the big fake vent behind the front wheel is a bummer also. All of this is to say I think they wanted to tone down the WRX a little and/or plan to make the STI more distinguished from it as I expect it to look borderline Civic Type R ridiculous.
The wheel vent gone would be a disappointment. Maybe a smaller one is there, maybe near the top, behind the camo. But they added one in the rear bumper.

The wheel arches are wheel arch (cladding?) Is a wild card.

Toning down the WRX is reminiscent of the 2008 then 2009-2010 WRX before they went all widebody.
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Old 12-18-2020, 01:12 PM   #46
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The upside of the hexagonal cladding is that if it is removable cladding, it wont be long before some body kit company makes a rounded arch kit to replace it..in theory
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Old 12-18-2020, 01:27 PM   #47
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Welcome to 2014 Marty.


I know, I know, tilting at windmills.

I'm just bummed about it.
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Old 12-18-2020, 02:32 PM   #48
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Every single "new" model starting with Impreza 2012 looks pretty much the same as the previous models.
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Old 12-18-2020, 02:53 PM   #49
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The front will look similar to the new Levorg.

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Old 12-18-2020, 06:24 PM   #50
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The front will look similar to the new Levorg.

Hey at least the Levorg won "Japan's car of the year". That has to mean something, even if they are hard to distinguish between the old and the new.
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