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04-19-2021, 10:34 PM | #3226 |
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This crazy. I never believe in conspiracies but wow is the media really out to get Tesla? Who is paying them to write all that crap.
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04-20-2021, 02:00 AM | #3227 | |
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No mention at all of the likelihood someone else was driving in the news story...? Three drunk guys get in a Tesla, crash, and the driver takes off? Would be far from the first time thats happened. Not a Tesla fanboy by any means and completely agree that autopilot is going to cause fatalities (mainly in city / town driving, by people abusing the feature). However, certainly seems like some terrible reporting and dangerous ignorance on the part of the news org. |
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04-20-2021, 09:11 AM | #3228 | |
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04-20-2021, 12:51 PM | #3229 | |
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If I had to guess the market makers are reeling from not being able to keep the stock under 720 last Friday, and are trying to avoid similar losses to call holders this week. So ramping up the FUD opportunistically. |
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04-20-2021, 01:28 PM | #3230 |
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04-20-2021, 01:38 PM | #3231 |
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You can opt out if you don't want to have the cabin camera enabled. I am ok with it, I could care less, I never understood the American obsession with privacy; I am not a super model . Cruise uses a camera to watch the driver and make sure they are looking at the road already.
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04-20-2021, 01:39 PM | #3232 | |
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They use the camera to track eye movement. |
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04-20-2021, 02:06 PM | #3233 | |
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04-20-2021, 02:50 PM | #3234 |
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04-20-2021, 02:54 PM | #3235 | |
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It blows me away how easily people will give away they privacy. "How did my this get hacked?" |
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04-20-2021, 05:09 PM | #3236 |
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definitely sounds like a "hey watch how fast this car can accelerate, what could go wrong?"
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04-20-2021, 09:29 PM | #3237 |
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how the crash post developed through this thread is hilarious. OMG autopilot, omg battery fire...how much water?, oh nos cameras. Moving goalpost.... the bias is strong.
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04-20-2021, 09:38 PM | #3238 |
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It's gonna get worse Juanito.
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04-20-2021, 11:52 PM | #3239 | |
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My major concern is our lack or preparedness to handle EV fires and our ability to contain batteries rupturing and sending cells all over the place. I feel that we should address the issue before we double the current crop of EV's on the road. Anyways the problem will only get worse before we wake up and fix it. Its the typical Politician move. Throw a bunch of crap on the fire and see what explodes. I'm just bitter that that Morgan killed their reverse trike EV. BlitZ |
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04-21-2021, 10:37 AM | #3240 |
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So if anyone's wondering, I got my quote to sell my 2019 Model 3 with 15k miles to Vroom. It was $37k. Carvana offered me $33k. Total price for the vehicle was $51,700 for LR AWD and blue paint, with destination fee. Then I had sales tax of $3102, and a federal tax credit of $3750. That's $51,052 for the car.
FSD was $6k when I bought it, and acceleration boost $2k. so that's $58,052 into the car. I owe $35k. Basically my residual is 64% of what I've paid. Right now FSD is worth almost nothing to the market. I think if I sold it private party I could get a quick sale at high 30s to low 40s. It's kind of a stark reminder of how much money you lose on depreciation on a new car, and Tesla's are not some magical exception to that. Part of the financial rationalization I had for buying this car in May 2019 was that I would save a lot of money on gas because I could charge at work. And for a year I did. I almost never charged at home, and commuted 45 miles per weekday. Road trips were cheap; I could drive 500 miles to see my parents for $50. I've also spent $0 on maintenance; it's had one tire rotation. Now due to COVID the car sits there a lot, getting 200-300 miles a month of driving unless I take a road trip. It also can use up to a $1 a day in electricity due to the normal draining of the battery, and my inefficient use of a level 1 charger (will have level 2 soon). I would say COVID of course threw a big wrench into everything, but I'm also disappointed that FSD is mostly useless party tricks 2 years after Hardware 3 came out. I still like the car though. I'm having trouble bringing myself to get rid of it; maybe I'm still stuck on the sunk cost. Who knows what a new tax credit will do to actual EV vehicle transaction prices and resale of used Teslas. |
04-21-2021, 11:26 AM | #3241 | |
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Does Vroom know you have FSD and Acceleration Boost? Most people drive less than they used to now. Regarding FSD: 1st, I don't have FSD, nor do I even use standard AP, but you did get current functionality from FSD.
So, it's not like you paid for a feature that never materialized. You just want more from it, which you are still entitled to if, and when, it comes out. |
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04-21-2021, 12:01 PM | #3242 | |
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04-21-2021, 12:02 PM | #3243 |
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04-21-2021, 12:05 PM | #3244 |
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04-21-2021, 12:23 PM | #3245 |
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Vroom allows you to check a box for FSD; Accel boost isn't an option.
Tesla offered me $43k. |
04-21-2021, 12:25 PM | #3246 | |
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Tesla shouldn't care if you have it or not, since all cars are capable. So even if you sold them a Non-FSD, they can enable it for the new buyer for $$$. |
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04-21-2021, 12:29 PM | #3247 |
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04-21-2021, 01:35 PM | #3248 | |
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I'm not sure I can justify going from owing $35k on a Tesla with 15k miles to owing ~$50k or more on a new Y. Maybe I'm past the "I gotta have this car right now" phase with Tesla ownership. |
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04-21-2021, 02:10 PM | #3249 | |
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Maybe show Vroom that counter offer and see what happens. Also, I recall at the end of 2020 that Carvana etc started low balling people due them having an excessive amount of Teslas in stock. I guess a lot of people didn't want to pay for a new Tesla during the pandemic. That might still be happening. |
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04-22-2021, 11:37 AM | #3250 |
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