VW:2025 ID.Buzz Long Wheel Base US Bound

[SubaDuba420]

VW Confirms Debut of 2025 ID.Buzz LWB U.S.-Spec Version in June
The long-wheelbase, seven-seat version of the electric Microbus is the one that's coming to America, and we'll see it in a few months.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a4...-release-date/
-The U.S. version of the VW ID.Buzz electric van will debut in June, Volkswagen has confirmed.
-It will have a long-wheelbase configuration and seven seats as standard.
-It will arrive for the 2025 model year and will go on sale in the U.S. in summer 2024.
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VW's Microbus revival, the electric ID.Buzz van, is already on sale in Europe, and now we're finally getting some updates on the U.S. version and when it will arrive on our shores. Volkswagen has confirmed that the long-wheelbase version of the Buzz will make its debut in June before going on sale in America for the 2024 model year. Our spy photographers have also spotted a prototype of the LWB van testing in wintry conditions, giving us our first look at this different configuration.

The difference between the short-wheelbase European model and the long-wheelbase U.S. model is most obvious if you look at the length of the rear sliding doors. Otherwise, the two look nearly identical on the outside. The U.S. version will come standard with three rows of seats and should offer seating for seven passengers, while the Euro version has two rows of seats. We expect some other interior trim differences, although we're hoping that the fun interior color options make their way to our market.

VW has also told us that the bigger U.S.-bound Buzz will have a larger battery pack than the 77.0-kWh pack available elsewhere. The base model will have a single rear-mounted electric motor producing 201 horsepower, and a dual-motor all-wheel-drive upgrade will be optional and should offer the same 295 horsepower as the AWD option in the ID.4 SUV.

The Buzz won't go on sale in the U.S. until a year after the debut, as a VW spokesperson told C/D that it will arrive on our shores in June 2024. Look for more information to come when the 2025 ID.Buzz makes its official debut in June, including pricing, range estimates, and more.

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[Sid03SVT]

Dear Volkswagen, send the wagon.

[Kostamojen]

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I still kinda want one...

[Genericuser1]

While I want one, especially the AWD dual motor if it can tow a little bit, it's going to be stupid expensive and have ADM probably.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by Genericuser1

While I want one, especially the AWD dual motor if it can tow a little bit, it's going to be stupid expensive and have ADM probably.

Don't know if its accurate, but the EU towing capacity is just 2200lbs.

[samagon]

Originally Posted by Genericuser1

While I want one, especially the AWD dual motor if it can tow a little bit, it's going to be stupid expensive and have ADM probably.

stupid expensive, yes, it will be.

ADM, VWA CEO has said that won't be a thing.

https://insideevs.com/news/670501/vw...e-gouging-ceo/

the article calls it price gouging, but the CEO named it correctly as a markup.

[Calamity Jesus]

Originally Posted by samagon

stupid expensive, yes, it will be.

ADM, VWA CEO has said that won't be a thing.

He's full of crap. He's got no control over dealers. It's bluster to get people to put down deposits (better sales target data) and not blame VW when they can't afford the inevitable ADM.

[Genericuser1]

Well that's one good thing I guess (no ADM or at least the attempt), was hoping U.S. production would be in Tennessee but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I have a few years to see how it pans out, same with Kia's EV9 I just really like the bus.

[Genericuser1]

Well that's one good thing I guess (no ADM or at least the attempt), was hoping U.S. production would be in Tennessee but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I have a few years to see how it pans out, same with Kia's EV9 I just really like the bus.

[FaastLegacy]

Originally Posted by Calamity Jesus

He's full of crap. He's got no control over dealers. It's bluster to get people to put down deposits (better sales target data) and not blame VW when they can't afford the inevitable ADM.

Yeah, I'd like to see him try. A lot of VW dealers are marking up basic GTIs right now, so I have no confidence those same dealers won't be marking up something that will be more desirable.

I'm strangely attracted to this thing, but I have no idea what I'd do with a seven passenger van for a family of two. I hope the rear seats are removable and somewhat configurable. It seems like it could have an insane amount of utility, if so.

[SCRAPPYDO]

I also like this, which proves good design can break all barriers.

[Sid03SVT]

Originally Posted by Sid03SVT

Dear Volkswagen, send the wagon.

Cool to see the van/bus making it here; still want a wagon though.

This will have to compete with the Kia EV-9, Americans are CUV/SUV crazy so I don't know how well it will do, especially once more manufacturers bring 3-rows EV's to the market, a Hyundai 3-row EV can't be far behind, unless the brands are differentiating (Kia gets the 3-row EV-9, Hyundai gets the sedan Ioniq-6).

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug though.

[Genericuser1]

Originally Posted by FaastLegacy

Yeah, I'd like to see him try. A lot of VW dealers are marking up basic GTIs right now, so I have no confidence those same dealers won't be marking up something that will be more desirable.

I'm strangely attracted to this thing, but I have no idea what I'd do with a seven passenger van for a family of two. I hope the rear seats are removable and somewhat configurable. It seems like it could have an insane amount of utility, if so.

I think with EV's there might be more room to maneuver around the dealer laws (Ford is attempting to do it).

The rear seats and mid seats fold flat and the rear seats are removeable.

CUV/SUV are what people want but the Microbus has a lot of appeal. Maybe less for families and more for retirees.

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by Genericuser1

I think with EV's there might be more room to maneuver around the dealer laws (Ford is attempting to do it).

I don't think Ford is skirting the laws, they're just demanding that the dealers play by a set of rules in order to continue selling EV's, and that includes no-haggle pricing available online, but I don't think it includes no ADM ever.

[White out]

This is going to sell well.

[Genericuser1]

Originally Posted by dwf137

I don't think Ford is skirting the laws, they're just demanding that the dealers play by a set of rules in order to continue selling EV's, and that includes no-haggle pricing available online, but I don't think it includes no ADM ever.

Seems like Ford is most of teh way there for EV's

https://www.businessinsider.com/ford...urce=yahoo.com

[Genericuser1]

As anticipated, stupid expensive especially for the range. It will probably sell well for 6 months or so and sales will take a nose dive.

https://media.vw.com/en-us/releases/1812

Starting MSRP is $59,995 for Pro S
EPA-estimated range for ID. Buzz is 234 miles for RWD models; 231 miles for 4Motion® models
First look at Moonlight and Copper ID. Buzz interior color worlds
Reston, VA - Today, Volkswagen of America, Inc., announced pricing and the EPA-estimated range for the ID. Buzz, the electric reincarnation of the iconic Microbus which debuts in American driveways later this year. Pricing for ID. Buzz models will start with the Pro S at an MSRP of $59,995, Pro S Plus at $63,495, and the launch-only 1st Edition at $65,495. At 100% charge, rear-wheel-drive models will offer 234 miles of EPA-estimated range and 4Motion all-wheel-drive models will offer 231 miles of EPA-estimated range

Note AWD adds another $3-$5k more depending on trim. AWD 1st edition is $70k.

[Kostamojen]

The US configurator is up too:

https://www.vw.com/en/builder.html/_...522%257D%22%7D

[SCRAPPYDO]

damn 70k dollars for that.
I think they will sell like hotcakes for a while. Then like was already mentioned, tank until discounts come in.

Lease one in 10 months for the best deals.

[godfather2112]

$72,540! Get the **** out of here with that nonsense

[Brahmzy]

I remember going to the Vdub dealership with my Dad when he bought a new Vanagon.
$18k and he talked ***8216;em down to $17k somethin'. Cheers Dad, lots of good times in that thing growing up.

[FaastLegacy]

Too expensive with too little range. Not a fan of the two tone on several of the models either.

This will flop.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by FaastLegacy

Too expensive with too little range. Not a fan of the two tone on several of the models either.

This will flop.

I'll bet you a beer that these will sell like hotcakes in certain markets. The question is for how long.

[samagon]

yeah, I miss the old Vanagon my dad had too, it replaced a '72 bus. I almost wish he hadn't sold it, but I'd have had nowhere to keep it.

Originally Posted by Stanley

I'll bet you a beer that these will sell like hotcakes in certain markets. The question is for how long.

they will, and once that settles down, they will lease them for $199 to anyone with a pulse.

[FaastLegacy]

Originally Posted by Stanley

I'll bet you a beer that these will sell like hotcakes in certain markets. The question is for how long.

Yeah, they'll initially sell well, but once the fanboy demand dies down, sales will crater. The value proposition just isn't here.