Trick 101 gas octane ?'s

AzSubie · 03-08-2003, 09:16 PM

JUst wondering if anybody knows what method is used to calculate the octane rating of this fuel. It's the racing fuel available down at the Mobile in Ahwatukee.
Thanks,
Pete

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RacingBlue · 03-09-2003, 02:32 PM

Most pump gas is an average of RON and MON numbers.(RON + research octane number, MON = motor octane number) No telling what trick uses, though I seem to recall all octane #s above 100 were RON. Call Trick.

AzSubie · 03-09-2003, 08:00 PM

Thanks for the response. I'll do a little research on the web to see if I can find out. If nothing else, I can call them like you said.
Cheers

kastle · 03-09-2003, 08:59 PM

Let me / us know what you find out. I'm betting a bunch of us want some good stuff for the upcoming track day

gdog · 03-09-2003, 11:49 PM

It's the good stuff; I mix it 50/50 with 91 for competition. I was able to add 5 degrees of timing to my 91 octane map, pulled a fair amount of fuel out as well, and it still runs great.
AzSubie, I mentioned it since I believe you have a utec.

A 101 map intrigues me...

AzSubie · 03-10-2003, 12:48 AM

Yeah Gdog, I've got a UTEC with a stage 4 +TMIC set-up. I run trick 101 straight since my WRX isn't my primary transportation and so I can afford to feed it the good stuff. I've run as high as ~22 psi (had to turn the ABC down after the dyno day) without any knock. I've got it set for about 19-20 psi right now and I've added a fair amount of timing too. All without any knock. Before doing to much more tuning, I'll be installing my Perrin fuel rails and then hitting the dyno with AZScoobie. Plus, I'm sending my current map and some logs to Nathan at TXS to see what recommendations he has. When I made the dyno pulls, i was way way rich. It'll probably be even more so with the rails. What set-up are you running Gdog? Once I get my map down, you can have a looksy if you so desire.
Cheers,
Pete
http://www.trickgas.com/unleaded.htm

DubuRX · 03-11-2003, 01:29 AM

Question about the Perrin fuel rails (if you know, or anyone who does)...
Can you use the stock FPR or do you need to upgrade??
I know it doesn't come with one and the Vishnu does, but I like that Perrin uses steel braided lines standard.
Thanks.

gdog · 03-11-2003, 11:01 AM

You don't have to upgrade, though there are advantages to doing so.
I'll be installing mine at some point soon (whenever I can get reasonably priced injectors), but until I upgrade my turbo I'm keeping the stock fpr.
If you're also installing a new fuel pump, the stock unit may have problems handling it. You might get Clark's opinion on that.

03-08-2003, 09:16 PM	#1
AzSubie Scooby Newbie Member#: 19285 Join Date: May 2002 Location: AZ Vehicle: 2003 Cobra Black	Trick 101 gas octane ?'s JUst wondering if anybody knows what method is used to calculate the octane rating of this fuel. It's the racing fuel available down at the Mobile in Ahwatukee. Thanks, Pete * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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RacingBlue Scooby Specialist Member#: 3325 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca. USA	Most pump gas is an average of RON and MON numbers.(RON + research octane number, MON = motor octane number) No telling what trick uses, though I seem to recall all octane #s above 100 were RON. Call Trick.

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AzSubie Scooby Newbie Member#: 19285 Join Date: May 2002 Location: AZ Vehicle: 2003 Cobra Black	Thanks for the response. I'll do a little research on the web to see if I can find out. If nothing else, I can call them like you said. Cheers

03-09-2003, 08:59 PM	#4
kastle Frank Army Member#: 1457 Join Date: May 2000 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Phoenix, AZ Vehicle: 1999 Outback Sport Steel Blue Mica	Let me / us know what you find out. I'm betting a bunch of us want some good stuff for the upcoming track day

03-09-2003, 11:49 PM	#5
gdog Scooby Specialist Member#: 6189 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Phoenix East Valley Vehicle: 04 Red No More	It's the good stuff; I mix it 50/50 with 91 for competition. I was able to add 5 degrees of timing to my 91 octane map, pulled a fair amount of fuel out as well, and it still runs great. AzSubie, I mentioned it since I believe you have a utec. A 101 map intrigues me...

03-10-2003, 12:48 AM	#6
AzSubie Scooby Newbie Member#: 19285 Join Date: May 2002 Location: AZ Vehicle: 2003 Cobra Black	Yeah Gdog, I've got a UTEC with a stage 4 +TMIC set-up. I run trick 101 straight since my WRX isn't my primary transportation and so I can afford to feed it the good stuff. I've run as high as ~22 psi (had to turn the ABC down after the dyno day) without any knock. I've got it set for about 19-20 psi right now and I've added a fair amount of timing too. All without any knock. Before doing to much more tuning, I'll be installing my Perrin fuel rails and then hitting the dyno with AZScoobie. Plus, I'm sending my current map and some logs to Nathan at TXS to see what recommendations he has. When I made the dyno pulls, i was way way rich. It'll probably be even more so with the rails. What set-up are you running Gdog? Once I get my map down, you can have a looksy if you so desire. Cheers, Pete http://www.trickgas.com/unleaded.htm

03-11-2003, 01:29 AM	#7
DubuRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 24307 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: AZ Vehicle: 17 WRX Premium WRB	Question about the Perrin fuel rails (if you know, or anyone who does)... Can you use the stock FPR or do you need to upgrade?? I know it doesn't come with one and the Vishnu does, but I like that Perrin uses steel braided lines standard. Thanks.

03-11-2003, 11:01 AM	#8
gdog Scooby Specialist Member#: 6189 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Phoenix East Valley Vehicle: 04 Red No More	You don't have to upgrade, though there are advantages to doing so. I'll be installing mine at some point soon (whenever I can get reasonably priced injectors), but until I upgrade my turbo I'm keeping the stock fpr. If you're also installing a new fuel pump, the stock unit may have problems handling it. You might get Clark's opinion on that.