Speaker installed!!

cgerald1 · 05-12-2003, 08:50 AM

Just wanted to share my speaker install with everyone:

I sound deaded the doors and door panels with cascade and used a trim ring I bought on this form to install the 6.5 mb quarts. The trim ring was awesome. They saved me at least 2 to 3 hrs labor. All and all it was worth the 30 bones.....

Here are a couple pics:

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Dick Insider · 05-12-2003, 08:52 AM

So where did you get the spacer?

IA Performance · 05-12-2003, 11:46 AM

Looks to be one of my rings

Great to hear the install went well. I almost sound deadened my doors this weekend too. The roof and trunk did me in though.

retrodog · 05-12-2003, 12:00 PM

I did a new head unit, Sirius radio/antenna, and Neo 20 Gig jukebox last weekend. I will be doing the the speakers in the near future.

Where can I get some of those trim rings? Anyone selling them who I could pay with Paypal?

cgerald1 · 05-12-2003, 01:22 PM

East Coast Scuby,

The trim rings rocked!! It made my life so much easier...or maybe I'm just lazy... but anyways I didn't have to invest the time and energy to do them myself.

Thanks again,

cg

SpecK · 05-12-2003, 04:03 PM

ya scooby, your spacers are awesome.

For everyone else, I got mine like TWO DAYS after putting in the order and I live on the WEST coast. One I gottem it took 30 minutes to do everything. piece O cake

ants wrx · 05-12-2003, 04:38 PM

hey cgerald1, which model mbquart speakers are those?

newsman · 05-12-2003, 07:11 PM

WOW! How much are they, and where do I get them?
Also what would be the total width to the glass with these?

BTW does anyone know if speakers width numbers that manufacturers post are from flush mount to the end of magnet or something else?

wgb113 · 05-12-2003, 08:07 PM

retrodog,

How are you liking the 20GB jukebox? I'm still debating on whether or not to get a portable unit like E-Digital's Odyssey 1000 or something only for the car like the Neo jukebox. Few questions:

How/where did you mount it?
Do you use an aftermarket head-unit?
How do you transfer files to it?

Bill

cgerald1 · 05-13-2003, 07:57 AM

I'm running an older set of RSD seperates. I enjoy them alot but if I had to do it again I would get the PSD or Q series because they have decreased in price.

cg

ants wrx · 05-13-2003, 11:23 AM

hmm, can you tell me the exact mounting depth for them? it should say it on a technical diagram on the install instructions. i have the rsc216's and its 2.54". i'm trying to figure out if i can buy and use those spacers instead of my homemade ones.

Kilalee · 05-13-2003, 11:56 AM

PM'ed ya East Coast Scooby on those spacers!

VT_453 · 05-13-2003, 06:04 PM

His spacers are awesome, only problems i had were problems i created by trying to make it to hard lol

losing mounting pieces that were with my speakers sucks

newsman · 05-13-2003, 06:08 PM

Yep, I sent PM as well

well_armed · 05-13-2003, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cgerald1
Just wanted to share my speaker install with everyone:

I sound deaded the doors and door panels with cascade and used a trim ring I bought on this form to install the 6.5 mb quarts. The trim ring was awesome. They saved me at least 2 to 3 hrs labor. All and all it was worth the 30 bones.....

Here are a couple pics:

On the doors, I would recommend covering the whole door (even the holes) with V-Block as well. It will help with mid-bass response having the speaker completely enclosed in the space.

here is my door:

retrodog · 05-13-2003, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wgb113
retrodog,

How are you liking the 20GB jukebox? I'm still debating on whether or not to get a portable unit like E-Digital's Odyssey 1000 or something only for the car like the Neo jukebox. Few questions:

How/where did you mount it?
Do you use an aftermarket head-unit?
How do you transfer files to it?

Bill

It's working great so far. I also have the following handhelds:

10 Gig Ipod
6 Gig Archos Jukebox
20 Gig Creative Labs Jukebox 2

The Neo works pretty well but I haven't played with it too much yet. I've been playing by directory, something that the Archos will also do. I'm planning on putting together some playlists for it in the near future. It is just sitting in the trunk right now with velcro holding it in place on the carpet. I'm planning on using the wired remote mounted right above my Kenwood KDC-MPV6022 as soon as I make a little mount for it, probably this coming weekend. The interface is USB. I think the newest ones come with USB 2.0 but mine just has USB 1. You can get a USB 2.0 upgrade for it but I probably won't cause I will only occasionally add songs to it. And you can just drag and drop them like any other hard drive. It uses a regular IDE hard drive and supposedly is simple to upgrade.

It looks like a nice solution for taking along your entire music collection.

cgerald1 · 05-15-2003, 07:56 AM

[quote]Originally posted by well_armed
[b]

On the doors, I would recommend covering the whole door (even the holes) with V-Block as well. It will help with mid-bass response having the speaker completely enclosed in the space.

Nice work. Your right I should have done the hole door but I'm not that good yet.... I did do most of the door and the back of the door panel which I find helps alot as well. I do know that the car is alot tighter now....either way.....

Thanks,
cg

IA Performance · 05-15-2003, 09:43 AM

I did a search on v-block on the net and nothing came up. WHo makes it? Rockford, dynamat, etc?

well_armed · 05-15-2003, 03:22 PM

cgerald1: it's not that difficult to do. All you need to do is take everything off the door face one peice at a time, marking with a sharpie which holes need to be made in the V-block. It's easiest if you use one sheet, tape it up to the door and use a razor to cut the wholes. Also, use a heat gun and not a blow dryer, this makes quick work of the material molding to the door.

As you can see, It wasnt done in sheets, but one peice. Therefore its a little tricky getting the wires and door locking cables through...but if you use your head you can see how it can be done. It took me about 2 hours to do one door, which is fairly quick considering all that is done.

As for the inside of the door, I would recommend a differerent material besides the VB-2HD material, but the VMax. VMax is like Raamat and dynamat, but way better. It is more pliable and more suitable to the inside of the door (plus it's half the weight as dynamat and raamat).

East Coast, here is a link to the website that explains all of the Cascade Audio Engineering products: http://www.cascadeaudio.com/prod/dampers.html

Don't buy their car kits and stuff. If you are serious about doing some serious sound dampening for your car doors and trunk, buy it in bulk from the shop.

It took me (1) sheet of VB-2HD for the front doors, and about (3.5) sheets of V-Max for the inside of the front doors. Each sheet of the VB-2HD comes in 14ft. sections, cut it in half and you have plenty to do both front doors.

Only (1/2) sheet of VB-2HD for the rear doors, because you dont need to go overboard...just cover the wholes and the speaker surround. And about (3.5) sheets of VMax for the rears as well. Oh yeah, one sheet of V-Max is measured at around 12" x 25."

Take the remaining half sheet of the VB-2HD and do the trunk lid...but make sure that you V-Max the trunk lid as well. That's another sheet or so.

In total, I ordered (2) sheets of VB-2HD, and (14) sheets of V-Max material. This was just about the perfect amount (maybe even a little too much V-max) for the four doors and complete trunk area.

Cascade stuff is the best out their right now. It is well worth the money. I highly recommend this to anyone who is serious about their car audio. Their are pictures on the website that give you an idea about how you use each product. Plus your local dealer can answer any of your questions.

DP

The

IA Performance · 05-15-2003, 04:03 PM

Hm, I think I'm going to stick with just doing the frame parts and not enclosing the whole area. I imagine it will sound a tad better, but if I need a door dent pulled it will be a major pain to cut up the sheet, etc. I guess I should be more optomistic.

well_armed · 05-15-2003, 07:30 PM

Or you could do the whole door and just be careful where you park your Rex... I always am. No Suburbans or SUV's, kids have to straight slingshot those doors open cause their so heavy. I have seen so many doors get dent by 8 year olds trying to open the doors by themselves.

05-12-2003, 08:50 AM	#1
cgerald1 Scooby Newbie Member#: 34144 Join Date: Mar 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Nashua NH Vehicle: 2003 WRX Wagon Blue	Speaker installed!! Just wanted to share my speaker install with everyone: I sound deaded the doors and door panels with cascade and used a trim ring I bought on this form to install the 6.5 mb quarts. The trim ring was awesome. They saved me at least 2 to 3 hrs labor. All and all it was worth the 30 bones..... Here are a couple pics: * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

05-15-2003, 07:56 AM	#17
cgerald1 Scooby Newbie Member#: 34144 Join Date: Mar 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Nashua NH Vehicle: 2003 WRX Wagon Blue	Re: Re: Speaker installed!! [quote]Originally posted by well_armed [b] On the doors, I would recommend covering the whole door (even the holes) with V-Block as well. It will help with mid-bass response having the speaker completely enclosed in the space. Nice work. Your right I should have done the hole door but I'm not that good yet.... I did do most of the door and the back of the door panel which I find helps alot as well. I do know that the car is alot tighter now....either way..... Thanks, cg

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Dick Insider Scooby Newbie Member#: 36514 Join Date: May 2003	So where did you get the spacer?

05-12-2003, 11:46 AM	#3
IA Performance Former Vendor Member#: 25194 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Boulder, CO Vehicle: 2008 Forester XT 5mt Dark Gray	Looks to be one of my rings Great to hear the install went well. I almost sound deadened my doors this weekend too. The roof and trunk did me in though.

05-12-2003, 12:00 PM	#4
retrodog Scooby Newbie Member#: 34650 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston/Galveston TX	I did a new head unit, Sirius radio/antenna, and Neo 20 Gig jukebox last weekend. I will be doing the the speakers in the near future. Where can I get some of those trim rings? Anyone selling them who I could pay with Paypal?

05-12-2003, 01:22 PM	#5
cgerald1 Scooby Newbie Member#: 34144 Join Date: Mar 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Nashua NH Vehicle: 2003 WRX Wagon Blue	East Coast Scuby, The trim rings rocked!! It made my life so much easier...or maybe I'm just lazy... but anyways I didn't have to invest the time and energy to do them myself. Thanks again, cg

05-12-2003, 04:03 PM	#6
SpecK Scooby Newbie Member#: 34554 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Vehicle: '03 WRX Sonic Yellow	ya scooby, your spacers are awesome. For everyone else, I got mine like TWO DAYS after putting in the order and I live on the WEST coast. One I gottem it took 30 minutes to do everything. piece O cake

05-12-2003, 04:38 PM	#7
ants wrx Scooby Specialist Member#: 17885 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Kearny, NJ Vehicle: 2006 Scion xB 93 RB25det powered 240sx	hey cgerald1, which model mbquart speakers are those?

05-12-2003, 07:11 PM	#8
newsman Scooby Newbie Member#: 25904 Join Date: Oct 2002 Vehicle: 2003 WRX WR Blue/Gold	WOW! How much are they, and where do I get them? Also what would be the total width to the glass with these? BTW does anyone know if speakers width numbers that manufacturers post are from flush mount to the end of magnet or something else?

05-12-2003, 08:07 PM	#9
wgb113 Scooby Specialist Member#: 32478 Join Date: Feb 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Glenmoore, PA Vehicle: 2018 WRX DGM 2017 Forester XT CWP	retrodog, How are you liking the 20GB jukebox? I'm still debating on whether or not to get a portable unit like E-Digital's Odyssey 1000 or something only for the car like the Neo jukebox. Few questions: How/where did you mount it? Do you use an aftermarket head-unit? How do you transfer files to it? Bill

05-13-2003, 07:57 AM	#10
cgerald1 Scooby Newbie Member#: 34144 Join Date: Mar 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Nashua NH Vehicle: 2003 WRX Wagon Blue	I'm running an older set of RSD seperates. I enjoy them alot but if I had to do it again I would get the PSD or Q series because they have decreased in price. cg

05-13-2003, 11:23 AM	#11
ants wrx Scooby Specialist Member#: 17885 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Kearny, NJ Vehicle: 2006 Scion xB 93 RB25det powered 240sx	hmm, can you tell me the exact mounting depth for them? it should say it on a technical diagram on the install instructions. i have the rsc216's and its 2.54". i'm trying to figure out if i can buy and use those spacers instead of my homemade ones.

05-13-2003, 11:56 AM	#12
Kilalee Scooby Newbie Member#: 2888 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Fort Knox, KY USA Vehicle: MY02 WRX Wagon Black	PM'ed ya East Coast Scooby on those spacers!

05-13-2003, 06:04 PM	#13
VT_453 Scooby Newbie Member#: 30396 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Virginia Vehicle: 2003 WRX	His spacers are awesome, only problems i had were problems i created by trying to make it to hard lol losing mounting pieces that were with my speakers sucks

05-13-2003, 06:08 PM	#14
newsman Scooby Newbie Member#: 25904 Join Date: Oct 2002 Vehicle: 2003 WRX WR Blue/Gold	Yep, I sent PM as well

05-15-2003, 09:43 AM	#18
IA Performance Former Vendor Member#: 25194 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Boulder, CO Vehicle: 2008 Forester XT 5mt Dark Gray	I did a search on v-block on the net and nothing came up. WHo makes it? Rockford, dynamat, etc?

05-15-2003, 03:22 PM	#19
well_armed Scooby Specialist Member#: 15204 Join Date: Feb 2002	cgerald1: it's not that difficult to do. All you need to do is take everything off the door face one peice at a time, marking with a sharpie which holes need to be made in the V-block. It's easiest if you use one sheet, tape it up to the door and use a razor to cut the wholes. Also, use a heat gun and not a blow dryer, this makes quick work of the material molding to the door. As you can see, It wasnt done in sheets, but one peice. Therefore its a little tricky getting the wires and door locking cables through...but if you use your head you can see how it can be done. It took me about 2 hours to do one door, which is fairly quick considering all that is done. As for the inside of the door, I would recommend a differerent material besides the VB-2HD material, but the VMax. VMax is like Raamat and dynamat, but way better. It is more pliable and more suitable to the inside of the door (plus it's half the weight as dynamat and raamat). East Coast, here is a link to the website that explains all of the Cascade Audio Engineering products: http://www.cascadeaudio.com/prod/dampers.html Don't buy their car kits and stuff. If you are serious about doing some serious sound dampening for your car doors and trunk, buy it in bulk from the shop. It took me (1) sheet of VB-2HD for the front doors, and about (3.5) sheets of V-Max for the inside of the front doors. Each sheet of the VB-2HD comes in 14ft. sections, cut it in half and you have plenty to do both front doors. Only (1/2) sheet of VB-2HD for the rear doors, because you dont need to go overboard...just cover the wholes and the speaker surround. And about (3.5) sheets of VMax for the rears as well. Oh yeah, one sheet of V-Max is measured at around 12" x 25." Take the remaining half sheet of the VB-2HD and do the trunk lid...but make sure that you V-Max the trunk lid as well. That's another sheet or so. In total, I ordered (2) sheets of VB-2HD, and (14) sheets of V-Max material. This was just about the perfect amount (maybe even a little too much V-max) for the four doors and complete trunk area. Cascade stuff is the best out their right now. It is well worth the money. I highly recommend this to anyone who is serious about their car audio. Their are pictures on the website that give you an idea about how you use each product. Plus your local dealer can answer any of your questions. DP The

05-15-2003, 04:03 PM	#20
IA Performance Former Vendor Member#: 25194 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Boulder, CO Vehicle: 2008 Forester XT 5mt Dark Gray	Hm, I think I'm going to stick with just doing the frame parts and not enclosing the whole area. I imagine it will sound a tad better, but if I need a door dent pulled it will be a major pain to cut up the sheet, etc. I guess I should be more optomistic.

05-15-2003, 07:30 PM	#21
well_armed Scooby Specialist Member#: 15204 Join Date: Feb 2002	Or you could do the whole door and just be careful where you park your Rex... I always am. No Suburbans or SUV's, kids have to straight slingshot those doors open cause their so heavy. I have seen so many doors get dent by 8 year olds trying to open the doors by themselves.