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Old 08-15-2012, 05:23 PM   #876
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Oh, so you're just saying that you're privy to projected numbers? Because we've already seen from their site who they're marketing this car to. It's mostly been dudes that I've talked to that have been interested in the XV. The women, including my mother, are more interested in the Impreza because it's lower and gets better gas mileage (although overall travelling mileage seems to be the same).

More power (or torque) for the XV would make it much more appealing.
See I would think that they would prefer the better vision provided by the height. At least that is what I remember women talking about when the dreaded Minivan hit the market.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:55 PM   #877
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Looks to me like you can place an order. Everything is up in there.

And sometimes they post things that could get them in trouble. Not everything on there is for the public. If you were to ask someone at SOA, I'd bet they would say that nothing on that site should be shown.
I didn't meant to imply that ALL the info they want would be opened up to them. I kind of meant that they could just ask their local dealer or on here and people will either give them info or say, "We can't tell you yet." I was just elaborating on stating that Subarunet is a dealer-only site.

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See I would think that they would prefer the better vision provided by the height. At least that is what I remember women talking about when the dreaded Minivan hit the market.
Things have changed, sir. hahaha You could be correct. I think there's an increased laziness in their desire to climb up into a vehicle, from my observation. They just want to plop in and go and want the car to look cute. I notice more women in Alaska seem to appreciate the pre-2011 WRX compared to men. We're all about that widebody up here.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:47 PM   #878
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Things have changed, sir. hahaha You could be correct. I think there's an increased laziness in their desire to climb up into a vehicle, from my observation.
Now that I think about it, the women who said they liked the extra height in a minivan probably would have trouble getting their walkers into anything higher than an Impreza without help. Yes...I am that old!
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:49 PM   #879
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I appreciate the oneness with the earth in a performance car, but for a daily driver / more rugged vehicle I really appreciate a higher driving position. Something like the CX-5 or even the Crosstrek will give me a more commanding view of the road than my Mustang does... I'd like to see what's going on up ahead :P
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:06 PM   #880
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I am what's going on up ahead.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:28 PM   #881
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I changed my mind, I don't want to see!!! (Just kidding, I still want to see... just everything else )

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Old 08-15-2012, 10:23 PM   #882
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I didn't meant to imply that ALL the info they want would be opened up to them. I kind of meant that they could just ask their local dealer or on here and people will either give them info or say, "We can't tell you yet." I was just elaborating on stating that Subarunet is a dealer-only site.
Sorry. Wasn't meant as a contradiction. Was just agreeing with you that there are several on here that could give some info. I just wanted to point out that some of them also give out a bit more than they probably should.

I just got info about Crosstrek/Eyesight training that I get to go to at the end of September. Should be fun.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:28 PM   #883
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I found a picture showing the stance difference between the Crosstrek and the Impreza... It's from the end of last year and from an Australian site, but hopefully it's still comparable. The driving position won't be as high as the CX-5, but maybe it'll be just enough for me to find a happy balance


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Old 08-16-2012, 11:54 AM   #884
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In case you don't read other threads, Crosstrek ordering goes live 8-15 at 2pm eastern according to Subarunet. That also includes Impreza, WRX, and STI.
OK, so 8/15 2:00 PM has come and gone. I haven't seen anything change regarding pre-ordering on any dealership web pages. Does it usually take a while for the news to propagate? It's not like I'm impatient or anything(!)
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:04 PM   #885
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I plan on buying one before the end of the year, It will be my wifes car, she likes the higher ride height (easier for car seats and groceries and better visibilty)
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:39 PM   #886
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Already arriving at local dealers.

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Stealin' my pics again, eh jutes? ;D
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Already arriving at local dealers.
Yeah, if Local = Canada
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:26 PM   #890
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How is Fuelly going to handle the XV??
Lump it under "Impreza" and mess up all the stats?
Or give it its own listing?
And I wonder when that will happen.
XV on fuelly should be very interesting to watch.
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Edmonton to be precise. 'Murrica will have to wait.
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OK, so 8/15 2:00 PM has come and gone. I haven't seen anything change regarding pre-ordering on any dealership web pages. Does it usually take a while for the news to propagate? It's not like I'm impatient or anything(!)
Dunno, but we placed 3 orders for Impreza's yesterday.


Crosstrek pricing is up

Premium manual= $21,995(add $1000 for CVT)
$1000 for moonroof
$1200 for NAV

Limited =$24,495
$2000 for moonroof/NAV package

$795 D&D
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Pricing is only slightly more than I expected, but not terrible. As with the Impreza, the $2000 Moonroof/Navigation package would be more appealing if it included an upgraded audio system... but I may go for it anyway. I really prefer touchscreen interfaces. This brings the price tag of a loaded Crosstrek awful close to that of a loaded CX-5 Touring AWD, though... ($28,500 MSRP delivered ). Hmm... Now I have even more thinking to do :P

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Old 08-16-2012, 08:35 PM   #894
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Dunno, but we placed 3 orders for Impreza's yesterday.


Crosstrek pricing is up

Premium manual= $21,995(add $1000 for CVT)
$1000 for moonroof
$1200 for NAV

Limited =$24,495
$2000 for moonroof/NAV package

$795 D&D
Pricing is too high. $23,990 for a Premium CVT. That's within just a few thousand of the larger, and just about equally fuel efficient, Outback.
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Pricing is too high. $23,990 for a Premium CVT. That's within just a few thousand of the larger, and just about equally fuel efficient, Outback.

$24,382 for a base model manual Outback with steel wheels and wheel covers. No all weather package, no backup camera, or moonroof, or foglights. You said $23,990. That would be an auto that has standard all weather package.
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Talked to my local dealership today. They're taking orders but there are no incentives right now... I'm not going to make the $500 deposit unless they can do something to really entice me as they did with the Impreza launch. It doesn't help that I stopped by the Mazda dealership and reminded myself how much I like the CX-5. The robust interior tech, 40/20/40 seats, and increased cargo space makes for a compelling case.
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Dunno, but we placed 3 orders for Impreza's yesterday.

Crosstrek pricing is up

Premium manual= $21,995(add $1000 for CVT)
$1000 for moonroof
$1200 for NAV

Limited =$24,495
$2000 for moonroof/NAV package

$795 D&D
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My guess is that it will be priced starting from $21995 (excl dest).
I guessed this price back in April. It is overpriced by about $1000
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From what I can tell, the cx5 doesnt have roof rails or towing capability. That was the dealbreaker for me... The folding seats are nice tough. Especially for skiers
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From what I can tell, the cx5 doesnt have roof rails or towing capability. That was the dealbreaker for me... The folding seats are nice tough. Especially for skiers
Roof rails are a $250 option and the CX-5 has a 2,000lb towing capacity I'm torn between the two :P
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It's between the Crosstrek and the CX-5 for me at the moment, as Outbacks are much too prevalent out here, a bit longer, and are a bit expensive to configure to my specification for my consideration.
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I appreciate the oneness with the earth in a performance car, but for a daily driver / more rugged vehicle I really appreciate a higher driving position. Something like the CX-5 or even the Crosstrek will give me a more commanding view of the road than my Mustang does... I'd like to see what's going on up ahead :P
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Talked to my local dealership today. They're taking orders but there are no incentives right now... I'm not going to make the $500 deposit unless they can do something to really entice me as they did with the Impreza launch. It doesn't help that I stopped by the Mazda dealership and reminded myself how much I like the CX-5. The robust interior tech, 40/20/40 seats, and increased cargo space makes for a compelling case.
Hi Staryoshi,
Sounds like you've already done a bunch of research. Note the XV Crosstrek has a better power-to-weight ratio than CX-5. Crosstrek's ground clearance is also superior: 8.7" to 8.5". Crosstrek's visibility should be excellent in all directions, too... Impreza has been praised for visibility, and Crosstrek will only improve on it with the additional height.
CX-5 will be larger in and out, more like Forester.
Fuel economy is a wash (assuming AWD automatics), with Crosstrek 1MPG better on the highway and CX-5 1MPG better in the city. (Crosstrek gets the "best in class" bragging rights, though, because the highest rated MPG is 33 vs 32.)
Both should be pretty darn nice cars, eh? Not really a bad pick either way. Subaru should have the resale & reliability advantage, but I'm sure the Mazda will most likely be fine as well.
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