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Old 11-19-2020, 02:35 PM   #3151
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lmao yeah first subaru i've owned that has traction control....I went from a 2004 wrx to a 2020 sti... krenberry
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Old 11-19-2020, 02:37 PM   #3152
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Yes both, you can see in my thread in Members Car Gallery
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Old 11-19-2020, 04:19 PM   #3153
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Ah thanks, i don't always login when just browsing so i forget about that thread. Clean car man.
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Old 11-21-2020, 08:48 AM   #3154
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I can only see the tokyo auto salon showing the wrx prototype with just the new body. the windows will be fully blacked to not reveal the interior just yet and no power figures will be released yet either. I see holding the full reveal until April which is usually when subaru reveals new vehicles despite the new york auto show being moved to August.
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Old 11-21-2020, 11:52 PM   #3155
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they are delaying the release of this car so much that its going to be outdated upon release.
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Old 11-22-2020, 03:35 PM   #3156
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they are delaying the release of this car so much that its going to be outdated upon release.
covid 19 caused numerous problems and delays as the automobile market came to a virtual standstill. so many debuts and production start dates got pushed out to later years. but so many new models are coming out next year that they may be forced to put their new cars on sale using an unusual schedule.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:17 AM   #3157
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covid 19 caused numerous problems and delays as the automobile market came to a virtual standstill. so many debuts and production start dates got pushed out to later years. but so many new models are coming out next year that they may be forced to put their new cars on sale using an unusual schedule.
It seems as though other manufacturers are currently leaking updates on their new models at a faster rate than Subaru is. Subaru has typically kept things closer to the vest than others in the past. Whether itís because of COVID, and the diminishing travel I find myself engaged in, or because Iím doubting Subaru will offer a vehicle I want to buy (Levorg STI) , Iím not that much in a rush to find out whatís next from Subaru. It appears as though Subaru, due to refusing to offer me what I desire is pushing me towards VW, and Iím not overly enthusiastic about that either. I suppose until actual need arises Iíll just hang on to what Iíve got. Unless of course, that Levorg STI does become available.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:32 AM   #3158
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It seems as though other manufacturers are currently leaking updates on their new models at a faster rate than Subaru is. Subaru has typically kept things closer to the vest than others in the past. Whether itís because of COVID, and the diminishing travel I find myself engaged in, or because Iím doubting Subaru will offer a vehicle I want to buy (Levorg STI) , Iím not that much in a rush to find out whatís next from Subaru. It appears as though Subaru, due to refusing to offer me what I desire is pushing me towards VW, and Iím not overly enthusiastic about that either. I suppose until actual need arises Iíll just hang on to what Iíve got. Unless of course, that Levorg STI does become available.
I have been eyeing the new Mazda 3 2.5l turbo hatch that's out now.
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:33 PM   #3159
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they are delaying the release of this car so much that its going to be outdated upon release.
Current gen was outdated the day of its release so par for the course really.
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Old 11-23-2020, 01:44 PM   #3160
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Subaru doesn't really release teases or debuts or big updates on models on top of each other. So with the month long teases and final debut of the BRZ, it'll be a little while before the WRX is officially teased.
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Old 11-23-2020, 02:09 PM   #3161
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Current gen was outdated the day of its release so par for the course really.
I don't think so. VA has fairly aged now, but still the vector program used on the re-fresh is quite good, and also the minor tuning they did on the suspension. Subaru sucks at ECU tuning for some reason, however.
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:52 PM   #3162
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It seems as though other manufacturers are currently leaking updates on their new models at a faster rate than Subaru is. Subaru has typically kept things closer to the vest than others in the past. Whether itís because of COVID, and the diminishing travel I find myself engaged in, or because Iím doubting Subaru will offer a vehicle I want to buy (Levorg STI) , Iím not that much in a rush to find out whatís next from Subaru. It appears as though Subaru, due to refusing to offer me what I desire is pushing me towards VW, and Iím not overly enthusiastic about that either. I suppose until actual need arises Iíll just hang on to what Iíve got. Unless of course, that Levorg STI does become available.
Been sitting on the sidelines waiting for this refresh a while. Had a 2015 (owned it for 4 years, sold it). Unless they come out with something that keeps pace with progress, I'm moving on. Sad, because there are certain things about subaru and this model that I will always connect with (utilitarian, versatile, rugged, lots of character)...but they need to keep up with the times and move forward with natural progressing evolution of the model to keep it competitive.

I'm not really sure what else to consider at this price point that will satiate my interest.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:00 PM   #3163
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VA was a huge letdown for those of us who actually believed that the next WRX and STI were going to be fully separate from the Impreza. Especially the interior, which is a 100% carry-over from the 2012 Impreza. If the VA came out looking more like the 2017 Impreza, I think we would've been impressed.

As it stands, with the delay for the STI being over a year from the WRX, I'm even more so expecting it to be separate.
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Old 11-23-2020, 04:45 PM   #3164
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Subaru doesn't really release teases or debuts or big updates on models on top of each other. So with the month long teases and final debut of the BRZ, it'll be a little while before the WRX is officially teased.
I'd guess Feb/March we'll get some info on WRX. Would be happy to be wrong, if sooner. Considering that the BRZ and WRX will be hitting the road in a pretty similar time frame, it's gotta be pretty soon.

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aaaand this is where they get us.

I don't expect sea change by any means and I'm intent on keeping my 15 until it's scrap, so I'll be happy not to be tempted by the new WRX. It's the STI that I'm worried about!
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Old 11-23-2020, 05:27 PM   #3165
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VA was a huge letdown for those of us who actually believed that the next WRX and STI were going to be fully separate from the Impreza. Especially the interior, which is a 100% carry-over from the 2012 Impreza. If the VA came out looking more like the 2017 Impreza, I think we would've been impressed.

As it stands, with the delay for the STI being over a year from the WRX, I'm even more so expecting it to be separate.
Was it? VA has its flaws, but it's a far better car than your Impreza. I know because I've driven the sedan, hatch, MT and CVT versions of your generation. It's nothing like my VA's and super slow.
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Old 11-23-2020, 07:14 PM   #3166
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Was it? VA has its flaws, but it's a far better car than your Impreza. I know because I've driven the sedan, hatch, MT and CVT versions of your generation. It's nothing like my VA's and super slow.
Talking about design. That interior is hella old at this point, and it was old when it debuted. And those door mirrors were always atrocious. And, yes, my GT is nothing like the VA, because it has 5-doors.

Because of all the interconnected back roads here in New England, I don't find myself missing owning a "fast", turbo car. Eventually, though, I plan on moving out of this area. Hopefully by the time that happens there will be an STI worth owning for a second time.
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Old 11-23-2020, 09:19 PM   #3167
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Talking about design. That interior is hella old at this point, and it was old when it debuted. And those door mirrors were always atrocious. And, yes, my GT is nothing like the VA, because it has 5-doors.

Because of all the interconnected back roads here in New England, I don't find myself missing owning a "fast", turbo car. Eventually, though, I plan on moving out of this area. Hopefully by the time that happens there will be an STI worth owning for a second time.
Who the hell buys cheap sport compacts like the STI for its interior? I never got this way of thinking.. it's a performance oriented sport compact.

I think your expectation is too high for a mere $40K-42K car. You should increase your budget at minimum $20-25K and get something nicer. Much less frustration for you.

I never thought my WRX/STI's interior was 'nice' (nor did I feel that on your gen Impreza either), but I honestly never cared.
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Old 11-23-2020, 09:49 PM   #3168
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Who the hell buys cheap sport compacts like the STI for its interior? I never got this way of thinking.. it's a performance oriented sport compact.

I think your expectation is too high for a mere $40K-42K car. You should increase your budget at minimum $20-25K and get something nicer. Much less frustration for you.

I never thought my WRX/STI's interior was 'nice' (nor did I feel that on your gen Impreza either), but I honestly never cared.


I guess I'm one of the simple ones. Didn't need anything fancy nor got the car for the interior. I traded in my 2009 WRX, had that for almost 12years since brand new with just a OTS Cobb flash. Never had any issues, it was just getting old and needed to replace things. I ended up getting the 2020 STI with no regrets of waiting for the new one. I also know that the new STI will cost much more since its HP will be rumored @around 400. Didn't want to spend anymore than the cost of a 2020 STI and am content with the current HP.
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Old 11-23-2020, 10:37 PM   #3169
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Who the hell buys cheap sport compacts like the STI for its interior? I never got this way of thinking.. it's a performance oriented sport compact.

I think your expectation is too high for a mere $40K-42K car. You should increase your budget at minimum $20-25K and get something nicer. Much less frustration for you.

I never thought my WRX/STI's interior was 'nice' (nor did I feel that on your gen Impreza either), but I honestly never cared.
It's just a preference, one that many people share. It's fine if you enjoy your VA interior. I just never liked the 2012 Impreza interior and felt the design was lacking. Everytime I get in my 2014 Crosstrek I basically roll my eyes. 2015 was an opportunity to update the WRX and STI, and they didn't. 2017, they did update it, but if you don't see the improvements of the layout then there's really nothing more I can say. I'd love to not care. Trust me. But, I does.
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Old 11-23-2020, 11:17 PM   #3170
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VA was a huge letdown for those of us who actually believed that the next WRX and STI were going to be fully separate from the Impreza. Especially the interior, which is a 100% carry-over from the 2012 Impreza. If the VA came out looking more like the 2017 Impreza, I think we would've been impressed.

As it stands, with the delay for the STI being over a year from the WRX, I'm even more so expecting it to be separate.
I feel this. I bought the 2015 as soon as it was out which means the interior is a decade old and the exterior is still a tarted up 2012 impreza. I hated the design because of all the 'impreza separation' talk. Then it grew on me a little and mainly the lack of competition got me even though I wasn't entirely happy. I think the gti and r look so boring, and the rs is dead now.

7 years later same story. New golf r is designed for 60 year olds, type r looks like a transformer, rs/m/amg want more money than what i want to spend. The hopefully saving grace is the levorg/wrx/sti will be their own line of cars sitting above the impreza and crosstrek. So Mr subaru better give us a nicer exterior and interior this time around to go with performance improvements.

Not much to ask, the levorg looks like a good step up interior and exterior wise?
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Old 11-24-2020, 07:13 AM   #3171
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Yeah, see, proof in the pudding with the Levorg. Even with the WRX leaks, I don't get the overwhelming feeling of Tarted Up Impreza. That feels like progress.
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It's just a preference, one that many people share. It's fine if you enjoy your VA interior. I just never liked the 2012 Impreza interior and felt the design was lacking. Everytime I get in my 2014 Crosstrek I basically roll my eyes. 2015 was an opportunity to update the WRX and STI, and they didn't. 2017, they did update it, but if you don't see the improvements of the layout then there's really nothing more I can say. I'd love to not care. Trust me. But, I does.
Haha, I didn't say I enjoy the VA's interior. I just said I never bought it for its interior. Hell I don't even like sedans. I bought the car for the pure driving fun and modding it to my liking, that is all.

This is why I keep saying the STI should be released in an unpractical 2 door coupe. That would be my preference, but I don't keep nagging and whining about it.
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Who the hell buys cheap sport compacts like the STI for its interior? I never got this way of thinking.. it's a performance oriented sport compact.

I think your expectation is too high for a mere $40K-42K car. You should increase your budget at minimum $20-25K and get something nicer. Much less frustration for you.

I never thought my WRX/STI's interior was 'nice' (nor did I feel that on your gen Impreza either), but I honestly never cared.
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You have a Golf R and an STI, and you can't see why someone sitting in the STI might look at the Golf R and say "why can't mine be a little more like that?"
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You have a Golf R and an STI, and you can't see why someone sitting in the STI might look at the Golf R and say "why can't mine be a little more like that?"
It doesn't have to be like a Golf-R's interior if that is Subaru's best offering they can do without compromising the performance aspects of the car. We buy these cars for the driving excitement, interior decoration comes after.

Look at Mazda's latest offering. They tried too hard on the interior with the limited budget they had leaving a mediocre performing AWD 3 turbo that still looks cheap on the exterior. We don't care for cars like that and we don't want to push Subaru into that corner.
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It doesn't have to be like a Golf-R's interior if that is Subaru's best offering they can do without compromising the performance aspects of the car. We buy these cars for the driving excitement, interior decoration comes after.

Look at Mazda's latest offering. They tried too hard on the interior with the limited budget they had leaving a mediocre performing AWD 3 turbo that still looks cheap on the exterior. We don't care for cars like that and we don't want to push Subaru into that corner.
I agree for the most part. I came from a VW to VA WRX. The interior was an unfortunate step down. Though I've been able to live happily with it for the most part, I would never defend criticism of it besides saying "you get what you pay for." And that's where I agree with you - the overall value is there for most enthusiasts.

But yeah, on GTI test drive or driving my buddies Golf R, I'm like
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