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Old 09-30-2020, 09:18 AM   #1
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The 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E Is Cheaper Than We Expected

This is great news for reservation holders.

Those who preordered a 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E will be eagerly awaiting the arrival of their new electric car. Even with a new F-150 launching this year, the Mach-E could be the most important product launch for the Blue Oval in 2020. The Mach-E will reportedly go on sale in the next couple of months, but leaked documents already suggest that Ford will offer discounts and incentives. Now, a new report from the MachEForum suggests that the Mach-E will cost less than expected.

A leaked document sent to Ford EV certified dealerships shows that all 2021 Mach-E Mustang trim levels besides the GT will receive a price drop. The price reductions range from $1,000 to $3,000, which is great news for all Mach-E reservations holders.

In the memo to dealerships, Ford advises them to "reach out to existing Mach-E order and reservation holders to communicate price reduction." It also states that reservation holders will receive an alert of the price drop on September 29. The full breakdown goes as follows:

The smallest price drop of $1,000 applies to the Select RWD and Select AWD trims, which drop to $42,895 and $45,595, respectively. If you ordered a Mach-E CA Route 1, it drops by $2,000 to $49,800. Both the Premium RWD and Premium RWD models receive the most considerable discount of $3,000. This now prices them at $47,000 and $49,700, respectively.

Ford recently reopened orders for the Mach-E First Edition after it quickly sold out. Even this limited edition model sees a price decrease of $1,000, now priced at $58,300. None of these discounts are major, but it's still great news for an already exciting new car. We don't think this small increase is enough to entice people into buying their first EV, but if someone was already on the fence, it could push them over the edge.

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Old 09-30-2020, 09:23 AM   #2
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range increases and price drops, both good signs; now if they could only get the weight down.. (Mach-E is ~500lbs heavier than the equivalent Model Y trim-to-trim)
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Old 09-30-2020, 08:40 PM   #3
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range increases and price drops, both good signs; now if they could only get the weight down.. (Mach-E is ~500lbs heavier than the equivalent Model Y trim-to-trim)
Are the dimensions and cargo area similar? Maybe itís just the photos but the Mach-E looks bigger than the Y.


Personally I like the look of the Mach-E and would push the lady into getting one. Iím just patiently waiting for an EV truck equivalent to the F150
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Old 09-30-2020, 08:58 PM   #4
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That gap between standard the models and the premium don't really justify the standard's price-point. . . unless premium doesn't offer much over the standard models.
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Old 12-06-2020, 01:14 PM   #5
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I was able to check out and get a quick test drive in a new Mach E yesterday (dealership is part of fords reservation Mach e tour) and I gotta say it, I like it, I like it a lot. It looks pretty damn slick in person (they had a red and some old person blue/gray). While I will still openly admit that Tesla had the better battery and underlying tech, I strongly prefer the Mach E over a Mode 3 / Y.

The Mach E felt less appliance like and more traditional vehicle except with an EV power train. The materials, in my opinion, felt better, the overall fit and finish felt worlds better (granted it's their demo models so that could be why). The red paint was absolutely amazing and like I said, looks pretty damn awesome in person.

It's definitely a peppy car and pretty damn fun to drive. If I don't have a need for a truck, I have 0 doubts in my mind that I would be placing money down for a Mach E GT in grabber blue.

Yes, Tesla still gets better range (between 50-75 miles) on equivalent trims and slightly better acceleration for comparable trims. The other tech like self driving and whatever still favors Tesla but I honestly would take the Mach E. The driving experience had a fairly decent balance of EV with "traditional" car.

My biggest concern with the vehicle is the fact that Ford uses LG batteries and LG seems to have been the center of numerous recalls from Hyundai / Kia and GM. I really hope Ford doesn't have the same issues with LG batteries as the other autos. If this vehicles has minima issues first year, I see it being a pretty damn good success.

Random question, does Panasonic have sole source contract with Tesla or is Panasonic just so pushed to the max with production of batteries for Tesla that they cannot take on new customers?
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The Mach E felt less appliance like and more traditional vehicle except with an EV power train. The materials, in my opinion, felt better, the overall fit and finish felt worlds better (granted it's their demo models so that could be why).
This right here should win over a lot of people who were teetering on the edge of entering EV-land. My dad has a Model S and it puts a silly grin on my face every time I drive it, but the interior and overall feel of sitting in it is quite unappealing to me. I want to feel like I'm driving a car, not controlling an iPhone. Too many screens and not enough physical controls and for a $70K+ vehicle, the quality of the materials is not up to par with the price tag IMO.
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Old 12-06-2020, 08:21 PM   #7
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I was able to check out and get a quick test drive in a new Mach E yesterday (dealership is part of fords reservation Mach e tour) and I gotta say it, I like it, I like it a lot. It looks pretty damn slick in person (they had a red and some old person blue/gray). While I will still openly admit that Tesla had the better battery and underlying tech, I strongly prefer the Mach E over a Mode 3 / Y.

The Mach E felt less appliance like and more traditional vehicle except with an EV power train. The materials, in my opinion, felt better, the overall fit and finish felt worlds better (granted it's their demo models so that could be why). The red paint was absolutely amazing and like I said, looks pretty damn awesome in person.

It's definitely a peppy car and pretty damn fun to drive. If I don't have a need for a truck, I have 0 doubts in my mind that I would be placing money down for a Mach E GT in grabber blue.

Yes, Tesla still gets better range (between 50-75 miles) on equivalent trims and slightly better acceleration for comparable trims. The other tech like self driving and whatever still favors Tesla but I honestly would take the Mach E. The driving experience had a fairly decent balance of EV with "traditional" car.

My biggest concern with the vehicle is the fact that Ford uses LG batteries and LG seems to have been the center of numerous recalls from Hyundai / Kia and GM. I really hope Ford doesn't have the same issues with LG batteries as the other autos. If this vehicles has minima issues first year, I see it being a pretty damn good success.

Random question, does Panasonic have sole source contract with Tesla or is Panasonic just so pushed to the max with production of batteries for Tesla that they cannot take on new customers?
Before I got my 20 Legacy, I seriously considered waiting for a Mach E. How was the noise level? It is the same size as a Forester?

I know LG Chem makes batteries for Tesla too.

Panasonic also makes batteries for Toyota, so upcoming Subaru/Toyota EV may use Panasonic batteries.

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The reviews on this are almost universally positive. Very encouraging EV start for Ford.
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I do like how it looks but...
saw the guys in the video do a 0-60 acceleration, and it just looks soul-less.
I thought I had muted my headphones

Wish they would have called it something else.

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and now range doesn't matter
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Glad to see competition in the market, it/Ford is not there yet for me; but to be fair, neither is Tesla.
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I went into abetterrouteplanner to see if I could make it from Detroit to Raleigh with fast charging on a Standard Range Mach E. It can only do it if I drive like 55 mph in Virginia and West Virginia, or charge overnight in West Virginia, which isn't too inconvenient. There's a non Tesla DC fast charging desert in that gap between Charleston WV and north Western NC.
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Looks like tall people won't be able to drive these comfortably. There's a major flaw with the infotainment display hitting the leg of taller people as illustrated by the Straightpipes guys in the video above.
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Glad to see competition in the market, it/Ford is not there yet for me; but to be fair, neither is Tesla.
I was hoping the Mach E would knock it out of the park and thus force Tesla to improve. I'm somewhat less hopeful now. We'll see how many Ford actually builds. If they pump out as many as they've been saying, there's a chance they'll put a dent in Tesla sales.. but I don't trust Ford to follow through. At the first sign of slow sales they'll probably cut production goals.
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Looks like tall people won't be able to drive these comfortably. There's a major flaw with the infotainment display hitting the leg of taller people as illustrated by the Straightpipes guys in the video above.
Yeah, that looks super annoying. While it's nice that they at least put a physical knob in the middle, the giant screen trend needs to go. What is it about making an electric vehicle that makes manufacturers go, "hey, we need to make EVERYTHING in here a screen otherwise it won't be EV-ish enough!"? Why can't we have EVs that have a normal amount of screen (gauge + infotainment) while still having physical controls for stuff like HVAC and radio?
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Chances Ford dealers tell customers who already placed orders of the discounts ...
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Yeah, that looks super annoying. While it's nice that they at least put a physical knob in the middle, the giant screen trend needs to go. What is it about making an electric vehicle that makes manufacturers go, "hey, we need to make EVERYTHING in here a screen otherwise it won't be EV-ish enough!"? Why can't we have EVs that have a normal amount of screen (gauge + infotainment) while still having physical controls for stuff like HVAC and radio?
I think they are trying to appease to the typical Tesla buyer (tech nerds). They are already a step ahead inside with a considerably better interior with a proper instrument display in front of the driver. Overall I think this is a very good first attempt as the car is attractive and from most accounts drives well. It's definitely going to chip away at Model Y sales. I'm excited to see what the GT can do.
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Never mind the name or how it looks, hereís how the Ford Mustang Mach-E EV did at our test track.



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2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E First Test: Faster Horses
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First Drive: 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E

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Looks really promising. One has to wonder what happens to Tesla once other automakers start releasing vehicles like this.
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Oh look who crawled out of the Tesla thread. Must be hard for you to watch and read the good press for the Mach E. This is just the beginning as it's a matter of time until more alternatives pop up and vie for a piece of the EV pie. This is probably peak times for your beloved company so you should enjoy these days while you can.
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Looks really promising. One has to wonder what happens to Tesla once other automakers start releasing vehicles like this.
Tesla will be fine. Sure, they might see some loss of business to competitors but the brand is still strong, the technology as it relates to mileage and performance are still significantly ahead of the competition although narrowing.

People who like Tesla will continue to buy Tesla. People who simply want to get into an EV might likely look at ford and others. Speaking for myself and a lot of people that I have talked to, a lot of us want to jump ship to EV but there is yet to be a vehicle released that meets my / our needs / wants / price.

The GF was looking at getting into an Ford Edge but once see saw the Mach E in person and was able to get a little passenger seat action a few weeks back, she decided to hold off for the new Mach e.

Her sister however is supposedly trading in her Model X for the Mach E GT. She and her husband hate that car and said itís been plagued by problems. Their P100D has been rather solid though
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Tesla will be fine. Sure, they might see some loss of business to competitors but the brand is still strong, the technology as it relates to mileage and performance are still significantly ahead of the competition although narrowing.

People who like Tesla will continue to buy Tesla. People who simply want to get into an EV might likely look at ford and others. Speaking for myself and a lot of people that I have talked to, a lot of us want to jump ship to EV but there is yet to be a vehicle released that meets my / our needs / wants / price.
I started doing research on the Mach-E as it has more physical/standard controls than the "minimalist" Tesla 3 & Y do. Not there yet; although the propulsion tech is too far behind, it was good enough for a first whack as the range was decent. The "can't turn off the nannies" is the most significant no thank you for me; that and the substantial weight at ~500lbs heavier than the similarly trimmed Tesla Y, which is already a porker, is right up there too.

Mach-E needs to get lighter and lower to the ground before I jump into one, basically more enthusiast friendly.
Tesla Y has to get more user friendly, as well as more enthusiast friendly before I jump into one.
Pricing on both is another concern, but newer technologies cost more, so I don't expect them to cost the same as a Corolla or something.

I'll keep burning liquified dinosaurs until EV's get to where I'm willing to buy one.
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