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10-28-2009, 12:10 PM | #2626 | |
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Finally had my lines replaced to fix the fuel smell... seems to have worked. I don't know if anyone has noticed, but the NHTSA has re-opened this issue and upgraded it to an Engineering Analysis, so we may still see a recall.
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10-28-2009, 01:26 PM | #2627 |
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this is great news!! Perhaps finally the right thing will be done.
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10-28-2009, 03:52 PM | #2628 |
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About damn time!!
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10-28-2009, 03:55 PM | #2629 |
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I cannot believe it's taken this long... wow.
FWIW I still haven't had this work done, but definitely hope to now. |
10-29-2009, 09:22 AM | #2630 |
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I never registered a complaint last winter (just got my WRX last year), but I'm doing it right now. I would think the more of us that send in complaints, the better. Even if you've already got it fixed with a recall you might be able to get reimbursed. It's quick and easy, just go here:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm Maybe we'll get this thing fixed yet. |
10-29-2009, 09:49 AM | #2631 |
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I have only once smelled raw fuel during start up in my 03 WRX. I live in NE and it does get pretty cold where I am sometimes. I think when it happened it was a very cold day around 0. My car is not garaged so it is out in the cold all the time. I'm surprised it has only happened once though as I would expect it to happen more if it has the issue. Guess I am lucky.
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10-29-2009, 01:30 PM | #2632 | |
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This number is almost certainly low, but even so it seems that only a portion of the vehicles in question have the problem. Unfortunately mine did, and I live in Central MD which is relatively warm compared to NE. Go figure. Last edited by sajohnson; 10-29-2009 at 01:31 PM. Reason: typo |
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10-29-2009, 02:56 PM | #2633 |
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My 03 does this but not all the time. Usually first starts I notice it. When I start it to go to school, when i leave school 12hrs later. I don't notice it when i leave work (8hr period)
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11-05-2009, 02:11 PM | #2634 |
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I have lived with this damn fuel smell for 4 winters and am getting sick of smelling fuel and almost vomiting on myself living in western nc. The design of the fuel lines was changed after 03 correct? I was possibly going to buy a set of 04 plus fuel rails to fix this problem, has anyone done this and if so is it a permanent fix? Thanks guys
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11-05-2009, 03:21 PM | #2635 | |
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11-05-2009, 04:09 PM | #2636 | |
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according to them, any engine number after 673467 has this fix already. |
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11-05-2009, 05:14 PM | #2637 |
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I fixed this last winter with a buddy. We took off the intake manifold and replaced the rubber fuel lines that are underneath the intake mani. No more gas smell!
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11-05-2009, 06:04 PM | #2638 | |
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11-09-2009, 11:17 AM | #2639 |
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Just finished filing complaint. Stepped out of my car today and reeked of gas, so much it made me lightheaded. I parked my car in the garage and it's now under storage status until I can fix the problem. Found the leak, underneath the turbo inlet hose and possibly two others as well. It's ridiculous they don't have a recall by now.
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11-09-2009, 12:55 PM | #2640 |
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Someone should make a standard form for the complaint
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11-09-2009, 01:24 PM | #2641 |
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I have this dam leak also.. But I have an 04.. Wat should I do? I've tried tightening the clamps but still comes back.. Don't really wanna pay the dealer hundreds of dollars to fix it LOL..
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11-09-2009, 02:09 PM | #2642 |
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That would make it too easy!
Seriously, there doesn't seem to be any standard procedure, other than contacting SOA. From there -- it's anyone's guess. WRX owners with similar mileage on their cars have gotten wildly different responses from both SOA and their local Subaru dealer(s). Everything from: "Yes sir, right away sir. We apologize for the inconvenience. Will you be requiring a loaner car? How about a brand new STI? Can we paint your house while we're at it? To: "What part of no don't you understand you moron?" This seems to be the result of treating each failure as if it were an isolated incident -- just another random repair. SOA likely does this on purpose. If they had a standard form/procedure it would be tantamount to admitting that this is a common problem that should be the subject of a recall. As it is, each time a WRX owner complains SOA just acts surprised -- like they've never heard of the problem before. |
11-09-2009, 02:23 PM | #2643 | |
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The TSB came out in the Spring of 2003, and IIRC the factory started using the new fuel line and hose in 2002. If you search this thread there is an actual engine serial # after which their should be no fuel leak problem. It stands to reason that once SOA became aware of the problem they would not continue to mfr WRXs without fixing it. When I first read reports from owners of '03 and later model WRXs I thought that they were either paranoid (my car has that too!) or they did have some sort of fuel leak or fuel vapor escaping and simply misdiagnosed the problem. Now I'm not so sure. There seem to be an awful lot of later model WRXs, and even other Subaru models with what sounds like the same problem. Does anyone have an answer for this? Did FHI continue using the original parts on later model WRXs? Do other Subarus have the same fuel line/hose setup? It would stand to reason actually -- it would be less expensive to use essentially the same 2.0 L engine in as many models as possible. |
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11-09-2009, 04:31 PM | #2644 |
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I got a call back from someone at DOT two weeks ago. He said up until no no one has actually mentioned that they could see a) leaking fuel obr b) puddle of fuel while the motor is running. That's the key thing they're looking for. He's like to see my car, but I live in NC where it only gets this cold a few days a year or when I hit the slopes.
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11-09-2009, 09:44 PM | #2645 |
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You'd think this would be worth someone using cold storage to reproduce.. If all the DOT goons needs is a credible example.. ?
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11-10-2009, 08:35 AM | #2646 | |
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And I started this by filing a complaint with the NHTSA. Forget going to SoA. It's their job to make money. Go to the government. It's their job (supposedly) to keep us safe. I got a call within hours of filing my complaint online: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/ |
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11-10-2009, 11:45 AM | #2647 |
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I live in Germany btw, I filed my complaint with NHTSA yesterday and am awaiting a response. I hope Subaru fixes the problem for free because I'm sure ze Germans will charge me a lot for this fix. I might as well upgrade my fuel lines then in that case and do it myself, good thing I have two cars. Trying to find the nearest dealer here, but can't seem to locate anyone. I live near Kaiserslautern if anyone knows of a dealer.
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11-10-2009, 01:50 PM | #2648 | |
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11-10-2009, 01:57 PM | #2649 |
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I get the fuel smell when im above 1/2 tank of gas on 04 wrx made in 03
The dealships fix was "yea we smell it" cant find it though As a smoker it does make me a bit nervous...... |
11-10-2009, 05:52 PM | #2650 |
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