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Old 11-05-2017, 06:50 PM   #7051
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I purchased my 2016 limited wrx in August and switched over to 17" blizzaks today. The blizzaks were mounted on enkei ys5. The torque specs on my stock wheels seems much higher when taking them off than the manual recommended 89 ft lbs i set when putting on the blizzaks. I was just wondering if different wheels require different torque or were the factory wheels over tightened by the previous owner. I'd never changed over from summer to winter before and just wondered if anyone had input. Thanks again for all the knowledge this group provides.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:03 PM   #7052
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I purchased my 2016 limited wrx in August and switched over to 17" blizzaks today. The blizzaks were mounted on enkei ys5. The torque specs on my stock wheels seems much higher when taking them off than the manual recommended 89 ft lbs i set when putting on the blizzaks. I was just wondering if different wheels require different torque or where the factory wheels over tightened by the previous owner. I'd never changed over from summer to winter before and just wondered if anyone had input. Thanks again for all the knowledge this group provides.
Or they could of been over tightened when a car dealership service department did a tire rotation. In September I took my WRX in to my dealer for the prepaid oil change and tire rotation. About a week later I had a nail puncture, when I changed to the spare the only way I could get the lugnuts to loosen was to put all my weight on the end of a 2 foot breaker bar. I checked the other 3 wheels and the mechanic was consistent with the severe over tightening.
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Old 11-05-2017, 07:41 PM   #7053
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Hakka7 unstudded was what I meant.

I did find R2SUV in that size after I posted, but it's significantly more expensive.
Without studs, the Hakka7 will not have the ice traction of the WS80 or R2, but will probably have better wet traction. Probably not much difference in snow traction between the two.
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Old 11-05-2017, 08:26 PM   #7054
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Sounds like it makes sense for me to stick with the Blizzaks, then - for my car thats staying in New England.

Now, what do people in DC use for winter tires? Im taking my Forester down there for my new job, with my region spanning from Philly to Charleston. Would Blizzaks be overkill? The car currently has BFG ATs
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Old 11-06-2017, 03:08 PM   #7055
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To clarify, I was only considering the unstudded version of the Nokian Hakka 7's (although Discount does offer both) versus the Michelin X-Ice model as they're both very close in cost. I don't plan on driving on sheets of ice (hopefully), just "typical" Colorado winter conditions. While I did find plenty of reviews on the Michelins, I couldn't find much info on the 7's...not sure if there is a clear winner between the two or if they're on a pretty level playing field. The third option I was considering was the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4, but they are $200+ more than the other two and I feel like they might be a little overkill? Thanks for the feedback thus far, any additional thoughts are also appreciated!
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Old 11-06-2017, 03:35 PM   #7056
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Sounds like it makes sense for me to stick with the Blizzaks, then - for my car thats staying in New England.

Now, what do people in DC use for winter tires? Im taking my Forester down there for my new job, with my region spanning from Philly to Charleston. Would Blizzaks be overkill? The car currently has BFG ATs
Just in DC, I was ok on Toyo T1s summer tires when I had a modded vr6 Jetta. But if you travel to those other cities, you will need something better. On the other hand, we would drive up to Vermont in a sienna on all season tires for 2 weeks at a time in-the winter and we were ok. As long as the landscape is a flat, traction is much better.
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Old 11-06-2017, 06:14 PM   #7057
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To clarify, I was only considering the unstudded version of the Nokian Hakka 7's ... versus the Michelin X-Ice.... I don't plan on driving on sheets of ice (hopefully), just "typical" Colorado winter conditions. ...not sure if there is a clear winner between the two or if they're on a pretty level playing field. The third option I was considering was the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4...
Unstudded Hakka7 versus Studless Xi3 versus PA4?

I would expect the H7 to be superior on snow and slush (versus the Xi3). The Xi3 will be superior on ice. On dry and wet, they will both be inferior to the PA4. The PA4 will be weak on ice, good on snow. Just my opinions.

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Old 11-06-2017, 10:04 PM   #7058
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Unstudded Hakka7 versus Studless Xi3 versus PA4?

I would expect the H7 to be superior on snow and slush. The Xi3 will be superior on ice. On dry and wet, they will both be inferior to the PA4. The PA4 will be weak on ice, good on snow. Just my opinions.
Appreciate the feedback, I really want the Alpins, but my bank account is telling me that the Hakka 7's will most likely be what I end up with. Probably going to pull the trigger within the next week or so...
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:02 AM   #7059
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Your bank account?
You are not picking similar tires, each listed is different animal. It is hard to imagine that you can buy one of them and be as happy as any other from your list.
Unstudded H7 is probably the best in snow, Xi3 will be best on ice - both will not be very inspiring in dry or wet. PA will keep the feeling the most similar to OE or any other performance tires while providing superior dry, wet and very likely slush performance.
Of course, as mentioned earlier, the price is paid in snow and ice performance.

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Old 11-07-2017, 07:42 AM   #7060
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Hello, when I bought my WRX in 2013, I also got the winter tires for a deal. They are Blizzaks and are just fantastic. Ever since I got the tires, I noticed that the passenger side tires were a little more torn up than the driver side. I assumed this is because the far edge of the road is usually rougher than the center. After several years now, the passenger side tires are at the end of their life but the driver side still look like half tread. Can I just replace the passenger side tires? They are directional so I can't swap sides.

Also, the car's alignment was checked since I've had it. I don't get this wear on my summer tires.
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:39 AM   #7061
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Have you read the manual? It should say something like: allowed circumference difference between tires is: 1/4" or 1/2".

It is strange wear, are you riding yellow middle line just in winter?
Half worn winter tire usually means that they are at snow wear bars and it is time to replace them for winter service.

And one more thing: Blizzak means that they are Bridgestone winter tires, there are many models. Which one do you have?

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Old 11-07-2017, 11:07 AM   #7062
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I just threw on my Alpin PA4's last night and they handle beautifully so far in the cold dry. I can feel a difference from the summers naturally but they feel fantastic compared to the squishy studless ice/snows I had on my old WRX. Looking forward to snow!
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:36 PM   #7063
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I am getting an 18 wrx with 245/40 18in wheels. I want to buy winter tires and use the stock 8.5 rim. I am leaning toward 225/45 michelin x-ice3 tires on the stock rim. Would that be better than the 225/40 tire? I know in cold i need narrower and 45 profile will be better but guess want confirmation. I know the 17 inch rim would be best but want to use the stock rim. The fitment works on the 8.5 wide rim.

Thanks for any feedback.
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:46 PM   #7064
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Rim width looks ok for 225/45 however narrower is better if you have a chance to dig to pavement. If your only way is to float than wider is better.

As good as Xi3 is it is not performance tire and your dry and wet handling and steering feel will suffer.

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Old 11-07-2017, 08:16 PM   #7065
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Just put my X-Ice Xi3 on today. They are a little worse than all seasons in the dry dept. On center feel is ok. Steering input before cars moves is a little sluggish, but I'm used to performance summer tires.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:18 PM   #7066
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Your bank account?
You are not picking similar tires, each listed is different animal. It is hard to imagine that you can buy one of them and be as happy as any other from your list.
Unstudded H7 is probably the best in snow, Xi3 will be best on ice - both will not be very inspiring in dry or wet. PA will keep the feeling the most similar to OE or any other performance tires while providing superior dry, wet and very likely slush performance.
Of course, as mentioned earlier, the price is paid in snow and ice performance.

Krzys
Yes, unfortunately money is a factor for me in this decision...after reading literally hundreds of reviews, these were the 3 I had narrowed it down to partially because that's what Discount Tire carries, and more importantly, they were highest rated with most reviewers recommending them. I'm set on going through DT because they have several stores locally, and my experience with them has always been positive for the last 15+ years.

I had tentatively decided against the Contintental Winter Contact SI and the Pirelli Sottozero 3 as their overall reviews were typically more "average" and they tend to have more negative feedback than the others.

This will be my first set of real winter tires, in the past I've generally run an all-season when living in the midwest. I've invested a lot of time trying to determine the best choice without breaking the bank (I've learned a lot but between all the marketing hype and the fact that everyone has different experiences/conditions they drive in/personal bias it can be a tough decision. I'm also probably overthinking it, too)...anyway, thanks for your input, I do appreciate it!
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:30 PM   #7067
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Yes, unfortunately money is a factor for me in this decision...after reading literally hundreds of reviews, these were the 3 I had narrowed it down to partially because that's what Discount Tire carries, and more importantly, they were highest rated with most reviewers recommending them. I'm set on going through DT because they have several stores locally, and my experience with them has always been positive for the last 15+ years.

I had tentatively decided against the Contintental Winter Contact SI and the Pirelli Sottozero 3 as their overall reviews were typically more "average" and they tend to have more negative feedback than the others.

This will be my first set of real winter tires, in the past I've generally run an all-season when living in the midwest. I've invested a lot of time trying to determine the best choice without breaking the bank (I've learned a lot but between all the marketing hype and the fact that everyone has different experiences/conditions they drive in/personal bias it can be a tough decision. I'm also probably overthinking it, too)...anyway, thanks for your input, I do appreciate it!
If you don't want to spend a fortune. Michelin X-ice Xi3. Drove on them today and for a studless winter tire I was surprised at how they handled in the dry at near 50 degree temps on the way home. They soak up road imperfections and are quieter than my Michelin Pilot SS. They're on my 09 wrx which I drive to work. Getting to work in one piece is more important to me then how spiritedly I drive in the winter.

If you want to spend a fortune go with the Michelin Alpine Pa4. They're a summer tire made for winter temps. Its hard at times to tell the difference between the Pa4's and my summer tires on my STI.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:05 PM   #7068
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Whatís happening everyone; looking to pickup a winter set for my 2018 WRX. Dropoing from 18 to 17 wheels.

Whatís a better size tire? 215/50, 225/45 or 235/45?

Iím going with the Enkei EDR9 wheels in 17.
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:52 AM   #7069
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Wheels are irrelevant, google a tire size calculator and plug in your sizes. You want the OD to be as close as possible.
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:55 AM   #7070
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If you don't want to spend a fortune. Michelin X-ice Xi3. Drove on them today and for a studless winter tire I was surprised at how they handled in the dry at near 50 degree temps on the way home. They soak up road imperfections and are quieter than my Michelin Pilot SS. They're on my 09 wrx which I drive to work. Getting to work in one piece is more important to me then how spiritedly I drive in the winter.

If you want to spend a fortune go with the Michelin Alpine Pa4. They're a summer tire made for winter temps. Its hard at times to tell the difference between the Pa4's and my summer tires on my STI.
For the east, midwest, and PNW, XI3's seem better. For here in CA and in CO, you might want to go with a more all around tire, something like the conti, the goodyear (which nobody takes my advice on), or even a blizzak WS. I would opt away from the performance winter category in your area (the LM blizzaks, the michelin PA's). Seriously, the goodyear UGIWRT is a highly underregarded tire.

Online reviews are only as good as those writing them and reflect their experience and knowledge. Most dont even know that Blizzak is a whole line, not a single model of tire. The new Conti is a good tire. The goodyear is a good tire. If you are going to be going to summit county or any ski hill a lot and want to have as little issue as possible, stay away from the perf winter category. CO conditions are a bit too much for them.

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Old 11-10-2017, 04:10 PM   #7071
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I have 2010 Impreza sport (2.5i) in Canada. We have lots snow ..
Currently 205/55 16 size equipped in. Now I am looking at 215/55 16 winter tire and called local dealer asking if it is going to fit . However they said not recommended which I feel it would fit.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:21 PM   #7072
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Stay stock width or go narrower... Helps you dig down to traction better..... Unless you like to float...
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:33 PM   #7073
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I have 2010 Impreza sport (2.5i) in Canada. We have lots snow ..
Currently 205/55 16 size equipped in. Now I am looking at 215/55 16 winter tire and called local dealer asking if it is going to fit . However they said not recommended which I feel it would fit.
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It would fit just fine. I believe your stock wheels are 6.5" wide. A 6.0 to 7.5" wheel is recommended for 215/55/16 tires. Wider tires will have less snow grip, but more ice grip. You'll get a bit more ground clearance with the larger tire too, which is good for deep snow.
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Old 11-11-2017, 09:32 PM   #7074
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My daily commute is only 2 miles, but I make regular trips to Boston, Albany (NY) and Central Connecticut.

I have original stock rims on my car and I'd like to have a set of dedicated rims, but that may be cost prohibitive for me right now. So, I'd like a recommendation for a dedicated set and tires only using my current rims.

Thanks!

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Old 11-12-2017, 01:35 AM   #7075
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It has been a massive pain finding tires for this car. No matter where I look, no one has any unless I change wheel sizes. Has anyone else had luck? Also I don't know what I can get away with on the stock tires. Mine came with Yokohama Advan V105 tires from the factory. I know they are summer tires and I know what that means in the snow but right now the roads are bare and dry, it's just a bit cool (about 41F today) and I'm concerned about them cracking especially if I take the car to have winters put on (considering you know, I have to drive it there).
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