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Old 01-15-2018, 10:21 AM   #76
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This pretty much says it all. We have been testing all kinds of mixes, and ethanol on the OTS E30 tune. So far things seem pretty happy between E30 and E60. This should hopefully eliminate the need to be super exact, but testing should always be recommended. So far from what we have been doing is 3-4 gal of E85, and the rest pump gas (assuming you are just under a 1/4 tank).

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Yes there are. But easy to you and me isn't easy for everyone else.



From earlier conversations the tunes are supposed to be FTCL. So there shouldn't be much concern unless the mix is too low and induces knock. Aim high is my only recommendation.



Fueling will be adjusted to the target. Won't be an issue unless the target is too lean for the mix. However timing will not. So the only inherent risk is if the mixture is indeed too low.

Bottom line.... If you don't have flex you need to be testing yourself.
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:44 AM   #77
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Whoa Eric congrats on the CTR! I hope you stick around here because I am not done with tuning and I need you to review my logs .
Thanks.

I'll be around for sure. I always have a Subaru.
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Old 01-16-2018, 12:19 AM   #78
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In for the flex fuel map!
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Old 01-16-2018, 12:29 AM   #79
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From earlier conversations the tunes are supposed to be FTCL. So there shouldn't be much concern unless the mix is too low and induces knock. Aim high is my only recommendation.


Fueling will be adjusted to the target. Won't be an issue unless the target is too lean for the mix. However timing will not. So the only inherent risk is if the mixture is indeed too low.

Bottom line.... If you don't have flex you need to be testing yourself.
I didn't realize they were FTCL, that makes sense.

Yeah, my issue would be if there was too low E content, like E 20 how it would react. I know too much Ethanol isn't going to be a problem, I run E60 on my E50 tune on purpose. I just know sometimes the pumps can swing to E50, in which the calculations are much different than E70 or something. I've heard in winter it plummets in E content at some pumps.
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Old 01-16-2018, 11:28 PM   #80
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So is there a solid ETA at this point? On an unrelated note but still tune related did you guys ever release your tune for the TMIC and charge pipe?
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Old Yesterday, 10:12 AM   #81
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Sadly no. We have been using our shops 2016 WRX for the past 4 months of testing, just to find out in some recent data logs, the AVCS intake cam on one bank is not responding as it should. Brian does not feel comfortable releasing these just yet we have been creating tunes for a faulty AVCS. We are going to remove the timing cover, and first inspect the AVCS filter. It's possible we could clean that out, and the problem could go away.

In the meantime, I have a local volunteer that would be willing to lend us his 2018 to finish up the tune files. We will also use that car to make adjustments to our intake to fit them as well. I will certainly keep you guys posted.

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So is there a solid ETA at this point? On an unrelated note but still tune related did you guys ever release your tune for the TMIC and charge pipe?
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Old Yesterday, 11:51 AM   #82
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What about 91oct mixed with e85 how much less is the HP/tq?
Also I am running stage 2 maperformance ots map and with the downpipe my mom went from 26mpg to 19mpg and I'm not driving it harder I am driving it more light then ever not even in boost closet I get is 0. Any ideas? Also something weird so when I first tried out stage 2 my downpipe wasn't here it got delayed another day so I ran it with just the maperformance air intake and you can definitely could feel the power throw me back in my sit and my brother couldn't even get it in to 2nd gear 😂 so what would happen if I put back my oem downpipe and drove with stage 2?
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Yes, there will be a slight hit in power with 91 mixed, but nothing crazy.

As far as MPG's go, that seems quite strange. I was still able to get over 30 MPG's in my Wifes WRX with our Stage 2 kit. Even now with it's built engine and bigger turbo, I can still easily get over 30. However, I do drive a lot of freeway mostly which certainly plays a roll.

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What about 91oct mixed with e85 how much less is the HP/tq?
Also I am running stage 2 maperformance ots map and with the downpipe my mom went from 26mpg to 19mpg and I'm not driving it harder I am driving it more light then ever not even in boost closet I get is 0. Any ideas? Also something weird so when I first tried out stage 2 my downpipe wasn't here it got delayed another day so I ran it with just the maperformance air intake and you can definitely could feel the power throw me back in my sit and my brother couldn't even get it in to 2nd gear 😂 so what would happen if I put back my oem downpipe and drove with stage 2?
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Any suggestions to check?
I don't have any codes.
I guess I could try to understand connect and reconnect my 02 sensors.
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Yes, there will be a slight hit in power with 91 mixed, but nothing crazy.

As far as MPG's go, that seems quite strange. I was still able to get over 30 MPG's in my Wifes WRX with our Stage 2 kit. Even now with it's built engine and bigger turbo, I can still easily get over 30. However, I do drive a lot of freeway mostly which certainly plays a roll.
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The longer 02 sensor goes first on the exhaust and the shorter one 2nd? Just trying to make sure I didn't switch them around.
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What about 91oct mixed with e85 how much less is the HP/tq?
Also I am running stage 2 maperformance ots map and with the downpipe my mom went from 26mpg to 19mpg and I'm not driving it harder I am driving it more light then ever not even in boost closet I get is 0. Any ideas? Also something weird so when I first tried out stage 2 my downpipe wasn't here it got delayed another day so I ran it with just the maperformance air intake and you can definitely could feel the power throw me back in my sit and my brother couldn't even get it in to 2nd gear 😂 so what would happen if I put back my oem downpipe and drove with stage 2?
Tell your mom to lose weight then.

It sounds like you already did drive this car with the OEM downpipe and a stage 2 tune.

You need to run the correct map for your mods. Running a stage 2 map on a stage 1 car is asking for trouble.

You need to get your O2 sensors figured out first and foremost. Have you looked at some Youtube Install videos to see if you matched everything up right?
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Old Yesterday, 11:23 PM   #87
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Cobb flex fuel kit + MAP e30 Tuning package would be great!
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Tell your mom to lose weight then.

It sounds like you already did drive this car with the OEM downpipe and a stage 2 tune.

You need to run the correct map for your mods. Running a stage 2 map on a stage 1 car is asking for trouble.

You need to get your O2 sensors figured out first and foremost. Have you looked at some Youtube Install videos to see if you matched everything up right?
I actually searched that about the 02 sensors but didn't find anything useful, guess I'll wait until weekend to get under the car to examine.
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