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Old 03-08-2020, 01:13 PM   #5901
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That would make sense

I would just take the car to flat four automotive in Troy , Matt knows what to do with all Subarus
Wow I never heard of Flat Four before, thank you!
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Old 03-11-2020, 05:02 PM   #5902
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Wow I never heard of Flat Four before, thank you!
Might want to call them rather then email if you decide to contact them. I have emailed them before with no response.
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Old 03-12-2020, 12:35 PM   #5903
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Whelp, Chris over at Quality Foreign Car Service in Berkley performed a smoke test and found a vacuum leak behind the turbo. Not even like a ruptured hose, but more like a disconnected hose. Not sure how/when that happened but i think it might have been when i hit a crater of a pothole in Detroit at some point in January.

Super bummed I spent all that money on a cam gear head, new ECU, and new oxygen sensor. But now the car runs like it used to and i have my boost back.
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Old 03-12-2020, 01:32 PM   #5904
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Whelp, Chris over at Quality Foreign Car Service in Berkley performed a smoke test and found a vacuum leak behind the turbo. Not even like a ruptured hose, but more like a disconnected hose. Not sure how/when that happened but i think it might have been when i hit a crater of a pothole in Detroit at some point in January.

Super bummed I spent all that money on a cam gear head, new ECU, and new oxygen sensor. But now the car runs like it used to and i have my boost back.
Wait what place told you to buy a new ecu and everything ?
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Old 03-13-2020, 09:29 AM   #5905
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Wait what place told you to buy a new ecu and everything ?
the buttholes at Seller's Subaru suggested the camhead gear when the CEL first came on. I just said go ahead an do it because I was not in my right mind as my house had flooded and I had all kinds of other **** going on at the time.

So they did that and said the CEL was still there, and suggested replacing the ECU. I came to my senses and took it back to Boost Controlled Performance to have them check the car out and they said "yeah, replace the ECU".

So I took it back to Seller's and had them put in the new ECU. CEL still there.

So then I was talking to a friend and he thought since there was like no boost that there had to be a leak post-turbo, and he said the best way to find out was to do a smoke test.

So I started looking for mechanics online that worked on Subaru's and that's how I found Quality Foreign Car Service in Berkley.

I called them up and the first thing he suggested was a smoke test which was good to hear.

Upon reflection I'm pissed I went to Seller's in the first place but I forgive myself since I was overwhelmed with life at the time. I'm slightly perturbed at BCP because it took them like a week to not help at all and they didn't seem very interested in diagnosing the problem.
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Old 03-13-2020, 07:01 PM   #5906
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the buttholes at Seller's Subaru suggested the camhead gear when the CEL first came on. I just said go ahead an do it because I was not in my right mind as my house had flooded and I had all kinds of other **** going on at the time.

So they did that and said the CEL was still there, and suggested replacing the ECU. I came to my senses and took it back to Boost Controlled Performance to have them check the car out and they said "yeah, replace the ECU".

So I took it back to Seller's and had them put in the new ECU. CEL still there.

So then I was talking to a friend and he thought since there was like no boost that there had to be a leak post-turbo, and he said the best way to find out was to do a smoke test.

So I started looking for mechanics online that worked on Subaru's and that's how I found Quality Foreign Car Service in Berkley.

I called them up and the first thing he suggested was a smoke test which was good to hear.

Upon reflection I'm pissed I went to Seller's in the first place but I forgive myself since I was overwhelmed with life at the time. I'm slightly perturbed at BCP because it took them like a week to not help at all and they didn't seem very interested in diagnosing the problem.
That is really bad
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Old 03-15-2020, 04:11 PM   #5907
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I wouldnt take my car to Sellers for an oil change. Lol
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:01 PM   #5908
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Flat Four is Matt Shehan who used to do repairs back when Oakos still had a shop then he went Indy, great mechanic imo - he documented/photoed the swap for me.

Not saying your concern w/ BCP isn't warranted, I did not go back int he thread but they are a tune shop, not repair shop. I've been in for 2 pro-tunes in the past and will be back shortly (all visits were for mod changes) - VF39 is leaking oil on the cold-side now, time for the 500+ and some AK magic, all support staff there has been great in my experience.
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Old 03-18-2020, 10:02 PM   #5909
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Might want to call them rather then email if you decide to contact them. I have emailed them before with no response.
i emailed too and no response, this day and age though, no email response can be a deal breaker..

anyone know if he does alignment?

if not, who do you all go to get an lowered-wrx alignment?

I've been told vast performance in ferndale, looking for options in the novi to ann arbor area
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Old 03-19-2020, 02:05 PM   #5910
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i emailed too and no response, this day and age though, no email response can be a deal breaker..

anyone know if he does alignment?

if not, who do you all go to get an lowered-wrx alignment?

I've been told vast performance in ferndale, looking for options in the novi to ann arbor area
Matt gets very busy running the shop entirely on his own, sometimes things get missed. Best form of contact is phone call and/or Facebook message to his business page.


I've been pressuring him into getting some sort of alignment rack + corner balance scales, but it's not in the cards at the moment.



I know there was some bad talk about Sellers, but there is a tech there named Chris that does great alignments.



Can't speak personally on VAST, but... uh, ya..
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Old 03-20-2020, 09:32 AM   #5911
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DO NOT take any vehicle to Nikolas Motorsport in Keego Harbor. Not that anyone would take a Subaru there, but they are an independent shop, owned by a former racer, and claim to be "euro" specialists. I thought it'd be a good place to get an alignment. Their sign says, "BMW, Porsche", and I had a Cayman. Nope, never again.

Owner argued with me over the alignment specs I wanted. He has some of his race cars on display in the shop. Must not have been very good if he doesn't understand that small changes to toe can actually do a lot for the car. So they didn't adjust toe as I requested. Then they refused to adjust the rear camber. Then they told me they couldn't adjust camber in the front because there was no form of adjustment. They told me I'd need to buy aftermarket control arms and come back for another alignment. Damn near every Porsche ever made has front struts and the newer ones all have slotted holes to adjust camber. Not sure how a "Porsche" shop didn't know that. But they still didn't adjust camber. Then, after doing nothing, they refused to drop their fee, so I paid $250 to pull the car onto the rack, argue with an idiot, and drive the car off the rack with nothing having been adjusted. **** those guys!
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Old 03-20-2020, 11:00 AM   #5912
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DO NOT take any vehicle to Nikolas Motorsport in Keego Harbor. Not that anyone would take a Subaru there, but they are an independent shop, owned by a former racer, and claim to be "euro" specialists. I thought it'd be a good place to get an alignment. Their sign says, "BMW, Porsche", and I had a Cayman. Nope, never again.

Owner argued with me over the alignment specs I wanted. He has some of his race cars on display in the shop. Must not have been very good if he doesn't understand that small changes to toe can actually do a lot for the car. So they didn't adjust toe as I requested. Then they refused to adjust the rear camber. Then they told me they couldn't adjust camber in the front because there was no form of adjustment. They told me I'd need to buy aftermarket control arms and come back for another alignment. Damn near every Porsche ever made has front struts and the newer ones all have slotted holes to adjust camber. Not sure how a "Porsche" shop didn't know that. But they still didn't adjust camber. Then, after doing nothing, they refused to drop their fee, so I paid $250 to pull the car onto the rack, argue with an idiot, and drive the car off the rack with nothing having been adjusted. **** those guys!
I've heard your story somewhere else while researching places to get alignment.
so where are you going to for alignments?

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Matt gets very busy running the shop entirely on his own, sometimes things get missed. Best form of contact is phone call and/or Facebook message to his business page.


I've been pressuring him into getting some sort of alignment rack + corner balance scales, but it's not in the cards at the moment.



I know there was some bad talk about Sellers, but there is a tech there named Chris that does great alignments.



Can't speak personally on VAST, but... uh, ya..
yea, i figured that he wasn't ignoring emails but more so just too busy to answer every one.

I've heard the same good recommendations about sellers' special alignment guy, but they're even farther from me than Vast in ferndale...

not sure if your "but..uh, ya..." after your comment about vast has a deeper meaning?



so, where should I go? the math doesn't add up: amount of people with lowered cars does not equal to the amount of people with alignment suggestions..

people have also told me that they've had success at belle tires. granted my car won't be too low, so do I just go to any generic alignment shop? do I need to know what specs Id want?
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Old 03-20-2020, 01:05 PM   #5913
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Lafontaine has a tech who will do off-spec alignment and works with aftermarket arms/bolts etc. Always done me right. Forget his name, but I always seem to get him as a tech when I come in asking for a specific setup so he's probably the go-to guy.
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Old 03-20-2020, 01:32 PM   #5914
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Lafontaine has a tech who will do off-spec alignment and works with aftermarket arms/bolts etc. Always done me right. Forget his name, but I always seem to get him as a tech when I come in asking for a specific setup so he's probably the go-to guy.
interesting, thanks for the tip, lafontaine is the dealer I go through.

speaking of "off-spec" though... I guess I'll have to familiar myself with those
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Old 03-20-2020, 01:40 PM   #5915
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Lafontaine has a tech who will do off-spec alignment and works with aftermarket arms/bolts etc. Always done me right. Forget his name, but I always seem to get him as a tech when I come in asking for a specific setup so he's probably the go-to guy.
Probably Adam N
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Old 03-20-2020, 02:14 PM   #5916
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Old 03-23-2020, 04:00 PM   #5917
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I have not but I'm pretty sure I know the owner of the Mini on that alignment rack in the photo.
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Old 03-23-2020, 04:03 PM   #5918
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I know there was some bad talk about Sellers, but there is a tech there named Chris that does great alignments.

Can't speak personally on VAST, but... uh, ya..
Last I heard Chris left Sellers (new job), but maybe someone knows for sure here.

As for VAST I dont think they have an alignment rack, they built my buddies 2014 Golf R (VAG Shop really) and he beats the piss out of it and has yet to have an issue.

Edit: They have an alignment rack and do track alignments, my buddy has his track BMW done there.

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Old 03-24-2020, 09:17 AM   #5919
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Last I heard Chris left Sellers (new job), but maybe someone knows for sure here.

As for VAST I dont think they have an alignment rack, they built my buddies 2014 Golf R (VAG Shop really) and he beats the piss out of it and has yet to have an issue.

Edit: They have an alignment rack and do track alignments, my buddy has his track BMW done there.
Chris has left Sellers for a new job. We can still do custom alignments. We align Josh Halka's Street class Time Attack 2011 WRX to any specs that he desires and we have an in ground alignment rack so no problems with how ever low the car is.

I'm sorry to anyone that has had poor experiences with us. People make mistakes and sometimes things don't get handled properly or as well as it could have been. I work in parts so I have no pull with issues with Service but I can try to help where I can. We still have a good amount of Subaru enthusiasts that work here and know a lot about the aftermarket side of these fun little cars.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:28 AM   #5920
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...people have also told me that they've had success at belle tires. granted my car won't be too low, so do I just go to any generic alignment shop? do I need to know what specs Id want?
Ive never had a good experience with Belle Tire and have heard the same from others. Maybe just bad luck but I would avoid them.
Auto Europe in Birmingham would probably do a good job but Im guessing it might be pricey.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:36 PM   #5921
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Ive never had a good experience with Belle Tire and have heard the same from others. Maybe just bad luck but I would avoid them.
Auto Europe in Birmingham would probably do a good job but Im guessing it might be pricey.
I am gonna give Detroit Tuned a shot as they are right behind my new house
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Thanks all for the inputs...

another hurdle just occurred to me: waiting. As most of these shops are over 45min drive from me, and I"m guessing alignment takes 1-2 hours? So it'd inefficient for me to ask someone drive that far with me. Normally I'd just wait, but most shops are closing their waiting rooms due our current situation. I guess I'll just wait on the street?

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I am gonna give Detroit Tuned a shot as they are right behind my new house
I just contacted them, he said he's pretty booked until the 18th. He came back with an opening on the 7th
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Old 03-25-2020, 08:39 AM   #5923
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I've heard your story somewhere else while researching places to get alignment.
so where are you going to for alignments?
I've not had need of an alignment in a few years, so I'm not sure who is good or best these days...

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Auto Europe in Birmingham would probably do a good job but Im guessing it might be pricey.
...but this is where I'd end up. Yes they are pricey courtesy of their image and the brands / cars they sell, but they sell track toys and at least one person there races an old Ford/Lotus Cortina with the various vintage racing groups. They know what to do for a custom and performance oriented alignment.
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:12 AM   #5924
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so much for all the research in alignment shops

you know how you usually hear two types of stories regarding alignments after suspension work:

1. drove my car unaligned for xxx miles, and when I finally got it alignment my numbers weren't too bad. no tire wear.

2. the car was undrivable, I damn near crashed and died.

mine was the second when I picked up the car yesterday after noon, hopped on the freeway and hopped straight off. anything over 45mph, the car darts around like a flea. luckily belle tire is a ghost town, got a morning appointment today and the car drives normal now.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fwAf7Nrx5u7QtoH87

Someone was referring me their friend who is a manager at a belle tire 10 miles away, saying he can do custom alignment specs. I chose to go to my local belle tire (5 mile away), he didn't do custom specs and aligned my car to the computer specs.

what are you thoughts on these alignment specs?
I'm no expert, but what from what I was researching, I was hoping for -1.5 to -2 front camber and -1.25 to -1.75 rear camber, zero toes.
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:28 AM   #5925
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so much for all the research in alignment shops

you know how you usually hear two types of stories regarding alignments after suspension work:

1. drove my car unaligned for xxx miles, and when I finally got it alignment my numbers weren't too bad. no tire wear.

2. the car was undrivable, I damn near crashed and died.

mine was the second when I picked up the car yesterday after noon, hopped on the freeway and hopped straight off. anything over 45mph, the car darts around like a flea. luckily belle tire is a ghost town, got a morning appointment today and the car drives normal now.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/fwAf7Nrx5u7QtoH87

Someone was referring me their friend who is a manager at a belle tire 10 miles away, saying he can do custom alignment specs. I chose to go to my local belle tire (5 mile away), he didn't do custom specs and aligned my car to the computer specs.

what are you thoughts on these alignment specs?
I'm no expert, but what from what I was researching, I was hoping for -1.5 to -2 front camber and -1.25 to -1.75 rear camber, zero toes.
Well your toe was out of alignment for sure

I generally aim for -2.5 to -3.0 camber and zero toe up front with around -1.5 to -2 degrees rear but that is for a GD STi geometry which is different.

I don't see an issue with your alignment for a street car , if you were doing autox or HPDE you would obviously want more front camber to help turn in and contact patch
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