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View Poll Results: Does your 2015+ Electric Steering Rack Clunk? | |||
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13 | 72.22% |
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5 | 27.78% |
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Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll |
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#1 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 424843
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Portland, Or
Vehicle:2016 WRX Limited 6MT ISM |
![]() It seems that several users have report having a clunk coming from the front end when they are either driving slow (less then 5mph) or stopped, and move their steering wheel back and fourth quickly.
Here is a video of me reproducing this noise for reference: It seems to be a problem with the electronic steering rack itself. There are other common sources of clunking in the front end, that further complicates the matter. Sources of these other clunks are commonly from bad Strut Top Hats and Strut related issues. It seems that this noise isn't apparent when brand new, but occurs within a few thousand miles after use. For some users it gets worse after time, others it stays the same. A few members have had their steering racks replaced by warranty, which initially solved the clunk, but it returned shortly after. I have had this issue since about 2k miles, and I am now at 16k miles. The noise hasn't gotten any worse. I am creating this poll to see how common this issue is. Please only answer in regards to the clunk in the steering rack, which is reproduced when stopped, and turning the steering wheel back and fourth quickly, like in the video above. I don't want to skew the results with the other common front end clunks our cars have. In addition to the poll, please reply with any information you can on your own experience with this issue. What have you tried to fix it? Have you had any success? How long has it been going one? Has it gotten any worse? Also, the following thread has more details on this issue: https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=2762301
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#2 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 337626
Join Date: Nov 2012
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: Dallas, Texas
Vehicle:2015 WRX Crystal White Pearl |
![]() mine has the stationary clunk with various stages of modification almost since i drove it off the lot, its definitely the steering and hasn't got better or worse.
stock top hats perrin steering lockdown with/without rce yellows gtworx bilstein with/without whiteline top hats stock and superpro balljoints |
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#3 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 463575
Join Date: Feb 2017
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![]() I've noticed the stationary clunk get progressively worse from ~20k miles to 40k miles.
During this time I've had RCE yellows with stock struts, and now I currently have BC coilovers. 2017 base model WRX. |
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#4 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 415503
Join Date: Mar 2015
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Nova
Vehicle:2016 WRX limited black silica |
![]() Yep. I have the same steering wheel clunk
Last edited by vtwinjunkie; 12-01-2017 at 05:23 PM. |
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#5 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 421271
Join Date: May 2015
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Chicago
Vehicle:2015 WRX Galaxy Blue Pearl |
![]() Tried to listen for this this morning, I don't really hear it like in the video. I do have marshmallow spec winter tires on at the moment though.
Tangentially related, on other Subarus people change out the rack bushings, but that's not something anyone does on the EPAS models. Has anyone ever looked at the bushings on these? In all likelihood this would make this phenomenon more noticeable not less, but I'm still curious |
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#6 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 415503
Join Date: Mar 2015
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Nova
Vehicle:2016 WRX limited black silica |
![]() I feel like mine has always done this. I am at 18k miles now... Perhaps it is just a characteristic of the racks used.
Id like to hear if anyone's rack has actually failed or developed play. |
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#7 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 337626
Join Date: Nov 2012
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: Dallas, Texas
Vehicle:2015 WRX Crystal White Pearl |
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#8 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 424203
Join Date: Jun 2015
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Mountains WA
Vehicle:2016 WRX STage ?? STI/PPG/ GM |
![]() I have the clunk and I have replaced all my front end parts except the steering rack.. I have an STI one from the wrecked 2015 I used for my drivetrain swap... feel bad for the dude.. yet damn it only has 1.4k miles so all new!!
I have RCE springs with GTWORKS struts, White line End links, SuperPro LCA with all SP bushings etc.., White line Front Roll centre/bump steer - correction kit and camber adjustment bolts.. Perrin Steering lockdown, etc.. AP BBK.. all lubed and most spanking new.. and still bum-pity pump at slow steering.. it is all fine once over 5 or 6 mph |
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#9 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 421271
Join Date: May 2015
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Chicago
Vehicle:2015 WRX Galaxy Blue Pearl |
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#10 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 424843
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Portland, Or
Vehicle:2016 WRX Limited 6MT ISM |
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I am glad this thread is getting more responses, I figured it was dead. It is good info to have! Killadawg, are you saying you are going to replace your Electric Steering Rack with a hydraulic one from a STI? |
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#11 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 124219
Join Date: Aug 2006
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Seattle, WA
Vehicle:2017 WRX (P) Lapis blue |
![]() 2017 wrx premium model here, it's the wife's car, but I noticed the steering clunk shortly after purchase, had less then 1K mile when I noticed it. Have not spent any time trouble shooting, most likely will just take it back to dealer since it is under warranty period.
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#12 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 478850
Join Date: Dec 2017
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![]() I have a 2017 WRX that does the exact same thing. It clunks when I turn the wheel at low speeds and also if I move the wheel back and forth when I am parked. I brought the car to the dealership and they said it is "characteristic".
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#13 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 424203
Join Date: Jun 2015
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Mountains WA
Vehicle:2016 WRX STage ?? STI/PPG/ GM |
![]() Yup I know STI and WRX have different type of steering racks (I also have the full set of STI parts (W\O the engine and interior.. half which is already swapped out ;-) yet not sure I want to wrench with this.. all working fine, and I can live with a small clunk at low speeds. I know mooresport makes a subframe for the VA chassis that might eliminate the clunk and if I do go the hydraulic way I will add that subframe as well. This summer I'm switching to MCS 2 or 3 way suspension, so I shall see if it is the top hats that does this noise, as with that setup stock will be replaced.
BTW for me the Dealer has been just trouble, every recall they forget to plug something in, or my hose clamps are on loose and blow out on they way home with no tools..etc.. good luck with that. |
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#14 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 481524
Join Date: Feb 2018
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![]() I copied my response on another, similar thread, here it is:
I have a 2015 WRX, bare bones model. I bought it around January 10th of 2015, give or take a few days. It has, to my knowledge, had the clunking since I bought it, though I didn't notice it being very pronounced until it reached the 10,000 mile area. I just took it to get it looked at a week and a half ago, from the time of this forum post. They apparently *were* able to duplicate the issue, and referred to a particular TSB about the front strut mounts (Subaru supposedly altered the manufacturing process specifically in terms of the front struts, which must have lessened this issue? I have no idea). Nevertheless, they apparently ordered a "kit" (service rep's own words), and fixed it, along with a free alignment. And the sound is still there, and seems even worse and more "harsh" now. It's really aggravating. Since I'm a new member, I can't vote in your poll. I *do* have the clunking noise, and I *did* take it in for service, however, the steering rack has not been replaced. |
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#15 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 448133
Join Date: Jun 2016
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Charlotte NC
Vehicle:2016 WRX Base Grey |
![]() Same issue here comes from the front right at low speeds, haven't bothered to trouble shoot at all. 40k BC coils, whiteline sways and links
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#16 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 449413
Join Date: Jun 2016
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Olympia
Vehicle:2017 WRX ISM |
![]() I have a 2017 WRX with 40k miles. The noise has gotten worse over time. It's really loud under 10 MPH. Whats the fix to get rid of this noise? If not replaced, will it cause any damage?
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#17 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 314845
Join Date: Mar 2012
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Sheboygan, WI
Vehicle:2016 wrx black |
![]() Having the same issue. I have RCE yellows on my 2016 WRX. I can hear it under 10MPH and when stopped if i turn back and fourth. It started this past summer.
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#18 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 233053
Join Date: Dec 2009
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![]() Has anyone experienced loose steering in conjunction with this noise?
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#19 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 512708
Join Date: Mar 2020
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Took to dealer, they replaced entire steering rack, said something was defective. |
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#20 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 507345
Join Date: Oct 2019
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#21 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 233053
Join Date: Dec 2009
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![]() I came across this post on another forum that lists the wrx as well but there is a dealer procedure to adjust the steering rack and replace a spring that is supposed to relieve some noise. If it doesn't then a new rack replacement is warranted. I took mine to the dealer for the noise and they told me it's normal and turned me away. Im considering trying this adjustment myself instead of wasting another day at the dealer. The spring it about $15 and the lash adjustment is free but in the diagram is looks like there is a speciality tool needed. Not sure if u can do the procedure without it but it looks like you have to remove the rack from the car to get to it. See the post below and there is an attachment on one of the posts that shows the lash adjustment
https://www.subaruoutback.org/thread...377209/page-10 |
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