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Old 01-07-2019, 07:49 PM   #26
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Shhhhh Don't tell the eco band wagoners that keeping that old gas burner on the road is actually far more environmentally friendly than that shiny new Tesla they will drive for 3-5 years.

Oh and China just about exclusively controls all the rare elements for battery production, and battery production itself. Once Ameriduh becomes actually reliant on E tech, China will have us over a barrel with a pineapple in our asses.
-I agree with your second paragraph, and it's frightening.

-On your first statement, here's the deal...
While waiting at the traffic light about three miles from home, I counted seven Teslas roll through from various directions. More than likely, the drivers weren't eco band wagoners. They're ****ing loaded with gold doubloons and have several cars. Hell, my buddy liked the Model 3 so much, he bought another one in Performance trim.

It's too easy to cop out and say that someone is eco-conscious and that's the only reason they drive a hybrid or electric vehicle. Kind of like the opposite. I didn't buy a GT350 because it gets 13 mpg's, I bought it because it gives me wood and it sounds like the civil war is chasing me.

That's all I got. Life is short.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:06 PM   #27
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I'd venture that my Model 3 is every bit as fun as a STI. It's quick.
I never said electric wasn’t quick or fun, just that for me there’s more to having a fun drive than the go pedal. I’m sure I can have fun in an EV, and like I said I’d like to get into one next as a dd, but it can never be as involving as a manual with feedback through hydraulic steering and the sound and vibration of an engine. To me, that’s peak fun and an EV doesn’t do it. If EV is every bit as fun to you, great

Anyway, I’m actually waiting on the kona ev/e-niro/soul ev... I just hope some incentives come back to my province by the time 1st year bugs are sorted out. Prices are going the right direction and closer to competing with its ICE competition, but prices aren’t there yet. Looking at battery cost forecasts for the very near future is promising, at least.

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Old 01-07-2019, 09:42 PM   #28
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Eh, it was kind of required really. Nissan decided to make the Leaf the VW Beetle of the modern age. Ugly, well priced and air cooled Bit them in the ass the first couple years, but it is better now. I do wish it had liquid cooling, but they did a good job.
My thought process may be wrong, but we are better for it. I can't imagine a world filled with cars using Teslas battery packs. Imagine if we had a seven electric car pile up and 3 of them are so severe that they puncture the battery packs. It would be hell to put out.
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Old 01-07-2019, 09:59 PM   #29
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-I agree with your second paragraph, and it's frightening.

-On your first statement, here's the deal...
While waiting at the traffic light about three miles from home, I counted seven Teslas roll through from various directions. More than likely, the drivers weren't eco band wagoners. They're ****ing loaded with gold doubloons and have several cars. Hell, my buddy liked the Model 3 so much, he bought another one in Performance trim.

It's too easy to cop out and say that someone is eco-conscious and that's the only reason they drive a hybrid or electric vehicle. Kind of like the opposite. I didn't buy a GT350 because it gets 13 mpg's, I bought it because it gives me wood and it sounds like the civil war is chasing me.

That's all I got. Life is short.
Id have to agree with this. I think there is probably more a majority than minority of people CURRENTLY who bought a Tesla more for the cool / need to have it factor that the EV factor.

Also, I was in Encinitas last week. Did goat yoga then got Handel’s ice cream. Talk about life being short, pretty sure I gave my diabetes a workout with the ice cream.
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:45 AM   #30
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Have you driven one?


Honestly, it's the best commuter/DD I have ever owned.


Sure, there are better EV's out there (Tesla etc...) but for the type of vehicle it is (compact car) it's very nice and even the basic models are quite well equipped. We have heated seats front and rear, heated steering wheel, power all the things, bluetooth, back up camera blah blah blah. It's quiet, smooth and actually kind of tossable. I have managed to get the back end to step out, though it's hard to snap it back in Eco mode Non-Eco mode it's fairly torquey too, again, for what it is.
Not to mention the 2018 Leaf is a huge improvement. It is a heck of a commuter car. They just need to launch the 250 mile version already.
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Old 01-08-2019, 08:02 AM   #31
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I didn't buy a GT350 because it gets 13 mpg's, I bought it because it gives me wood and it sounds like the civil war is chasing me.
You should do marketing for Ford, this is a much better pitch for the GT350; that or for one of the pharma Co's, maybe a joint venture.
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Old 01-08-2019, 08:10 AM   #32
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Not to mention the 2018 Leaf is a huge improvement. It is a heck of a commuter car. They just need to launch the 250 mile version already.
I've read the leaf e-plus still won't get active temperature management though. They're really shooting themselves in the foot if that's true. For cold climates and quick charging, its a must imo. Is it showing up in CES or any of the autoshows? I'd like to know for sure instead of these second-hand articles online... they're really dragging their heels on it.
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