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Old 12-20-2018, 08:05 AM   #1
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Nissan has already confirmed plans to introduce a second version of the Leaf electric car that will have a longer driving range. Earlier this month it was reported that Nissan is going to reveal it next month at CES and now Nissan has basically confirmed it.

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Nissan has announced everything that it’s bringing to next month’s Consumer Electronics Show, including the IMx KURO concept and Leaf Nismo RC racer. In the same announcement, Nissan also stated that plans a new vehicle introduction at CES, which will more than likely be the Leaf E-Plus.

The 2019 Leaf E-Plus features a larger 60 kWh lithium-ion than the standard leaf, which should give it a driving range around 225 miles, compared to only 150 miles in the standard Leaf. The 2019 Nissan Leaf E-Plus will also have a more powerful electric motor with around 200 horsepower compared to the 150 horsepower the standard Leaf has.

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Maybe I’m the only one with this opinion but releasing a new EV that goes less than 250 miles on a charge is a waste of time. I’d rather seem them keep producing the lower mileage leaf and then release something substantial instead of just incremental. I have the suspicion that when they release this as their new leaf, it will just be behind the 8 ball in regards to what other manufacturers are rolling out.
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No it won't. 250 mile range is solid.
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Maybe I’m the only one with this opinion but releasing a new EV that goes less than 250 miles on a charge is a waste of time. I’d rather seem them keep producing the lower mileage leaf and then release something substantial instead of just incremental. I have the suspicion that when they release this as their new leaf, it will just be behind the 8 ball in regards to what other manufacturers are rolling out.
Why?


Honestly, day to day with 70-90 mile range is more than enough.

This past weekend we went to the zoo in Tacoma, came home for lunch. While making / eating lunch we charged for about an hour. Drove up to North Seattle to the Burke museum at UW. Again, topped off while at the museum and then drove over to Bellevue for Christmas parade / garden lights and back home.

Museum did not charge for charging or parking. Home charging is cheap for us. The entire day probably used about $4 worth of juice and ~ 120 miles total driving.
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The real question will be the increase in cost. if this bumps the Leaf to $41k+, then why would you buy one instead of a Tesla Model 3.

Also this would mean that Nissan might have the only sub 200 mile EV on the market soon, but still at a $35K price. This with the 280 Mile Kona, the 250 mile Bolt, and the Possible 300 mile Golf IDe

Now if the introduce the Plus at $30K, and lower the standard to $25K then they have viable products.
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Could even go the tesla route and have different battery packs for different trims.
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Honestly, day to day with 70-90 mile range is more than enough.
That's subjective.

My commute is 34ish miles one way and I don't have charging available at work. That and the epic heat we have here would be pushing it pretty close.

The only way I could do electric is with the Bolt or a Model 3. It'll be interesting to see what the Bolts drop down to on the used market.
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That's subjective.

My commute is 34ish miles one way and I don't have charging available at work. That and the epic heat we have here would be pushing it pretty close.

The only way I could do electric is with the Bolt or a Model 3. It'll be interesting to see what the Bolts drop down to on the used market.
Just be like my wife and make it a condition of hiring


Seriously, she pulled that **** off
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That's subjective.

My commute is 34ish miles one way and I don't have charging available at work. That and the epic heat we have here would be pushing it pretty close.

The only way I could do electric is with the Bolt or a Model 3. It'll be interesting to see what the Bolts drop down to on the used market.
Why wouldn’t the 150 mile leaf work?
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That's subjective.

My commute is 34ish miles one way and I don't have charging available at work. That and the epic heat we have here would be pushing it pretty close.

The only way I could do electric is with the Bolt or a Model 3. It'll be interesting to see what the Bolts drop down to on the used market.
Heat doesn't really reduce range, just battery life.
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Why wouldn’t the 150 mile leaf work?
Maybe he needs enough charge for a 100 mile detour?
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Why wouldn’t the 150 mile leaf work?
It would.

Even the 90 mile Leaf would work. We are seeing ~75 miles range in the cold weather and living in a hilly area.


Flat and warm commute? Yeah, he's going to be in the 90 mile range, easily. Might even be able to edge it to 100 if he can get enough regen.
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Heat doesn't really reduce range, just battery life.
I'm pretty sure blasting the A/C on a Leaf decreases its range, does it not?
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I'm pretty sure blasting the A/C on a Leaf decreases its range, does it not?
Slightly. I was referring more to ambient temperature itself reducing range which only happens when it's cold (we notice below maybe 40-45 degrees F).
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With Nissan LEAF e+ you get more of everything

Here is the long-awaited Nissan LEAF e+ with a higher capacity battery pack, more range and more power, unveiled at the 2019 CES in Las Vegas.

First, let’s start with the name – Nissan LEAF e+ is the global name for the car, but particularly in the U.S. and Canada, Nissan would like to name the top of the line version – the LEAF PLUS Series. There will be three trim levels: LEAF S PLUS, LEAF SV PLUS and LEAF SL PLUS.

Market launch plan:

Japan – January 2019
U.S. – Spring 2019 (pricing to be announced closer to on-sale date)
Europe – Mid-2019


62 kWh battery and 226 miles (364 km) of EPA range

The most eagerly anticipated news is about the battery and range. A few years ago we were expecting something around 60 kWh and it seems that Nissan delivered even a little more – 62 kWh, which is by the way on par with the latest competitors in its price range.

The 62 kWh of energy is 55% more than the base 40 kWh battery option (which still remains on the market). As the lithium-ion battery cells are more energy dense (25%), the pack size is almost the same as the previous one, however Nissan didn’t say anything about weight.

“Even with a 25 percent increase in energy density and the increase in energy storage capacity, the LEAF e+ battery pack is almost the same size and configuration as the pack in the Nissan LEAF. Other than a 5-millimeter increase in overall height (16-inch wheels), the car’s exterior and interior dimensions are unchanged.”

There is no word in the press release about thermal management system (liquid cooling in particular), which makes us think nothing changed from the current LEAF. Battery limited warranty is to be 8 years/160,000 km (whichever occurs first).

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Because of the 55% higher capacity, the LEAF e+ is expected to get EPA range rating of about 226 miles (364 km), which is about 50% more than in the case of the 40 kWh battery version – 151 miles (243 km). The increase is then 75 miles (almost 121.7 km).



Fast charging up to 100 kW

According to Nissan, the LEAF e+ will be capable of charging at around 70 kW with a peak of 100 kW (probably at a certain state-of-charge window and temperatures).

The Japanese company encourages that when connected to 100 kW, the e+ will charge in a similar time as the base 40 kWh LEAF connected to the 50 kW charger, which is positive news.

“Thanks to the available new 70 kW (100 kW peak) Quick Charging system, the 2019 Nissan LEAF e+ can charge more efficiently than ever.*3 Based on early testing, Nissan LEAF e+ owners can expect similar charging times when hooked up to a 100 kW charger as current LEAF owners do with a 50 kW charger, despite a 55 percent larger battery storage capacity.”

160 kW electric motor

The e+ brings over a 36% increase in peak power from 110 kW to 160 kW (again on par with new mainstream BEV models). As the torque is also slightly higher, Nissan expects better acceleration, especially in the higher speed range – “50 mph (80 kph) to 75 mph (120 kph) is nearly 13 percent quicker”.

“The high-capacity battery and more powerful, 160 kW motor in the LEAF e+ combine to produce 45 percent more power and 250 lb-ft (340 Nm) of torque, enabling faster acceleration when driving at high speeds. Accelerating from 50 mph (80 kph) to 75 mph (120 kph) is nearly 13 percent quicker. This allows the LEAF e+ to confidently pass slower-moving vehicles, exit corners faster and more seamlessly, and merge easily with fast-moving traffic. The top speed has increased by approximately 10 percent for comfortable cruising.”



Design and new features

From the exterior, LEAF e+ will be almost the same as the 40 kWh LEAF, but with some small accents and “e+” logo (S PLUS, SV PLUS and SL PLUS in North America).

“The LEAF e+ carries over most of the LEAF’s design. Subtle clues to its e+ designation include a revised front fascia with blue highlights and an “e+” logo plate on the underside of the charge port lid.

There will also be a rear trim level badge for U.S. and Canada which will be designated as S PLUS, SV PLUS and SL PLUS.

Like the standard model, the LEAF e+ boasts a spacious, highly functional interior with a quality, high-tech feel. The combination of premium materials throughout the cabin befits a luxury vehicle. Vibrant blue contrast stitching for the steering wheel, seats and instrument panel accentuate the car as a Nissan electric vehicle.”

Among changes Nissan mentions a very important upgrade to a larger and more responsive touchscreen with an updated navigation system:

“New for the LEAF e+ (on North American and EU models) is a larger, thin-film transistor, full-color 8-inch display, with an updated navigation system that can be linked to a compatible smartphone. The display features smartphone-like operation including swiping, scrolling and tapping. Applications, maps and firmware are updated over the air with the simple touch of a button, instead of having to manually update by USB or at a Nissan dealership.*5
Other new features include Door-to-Door Navigation, which syncs the vehicle’s navigation system with your compatible smartphone for seamless driving and walking directions. The Connections feature allows any of the car’s passengers to quickly and easily connect to a device within the vehicle.*6
5 The new navigation system for the European market can also have its software and maps updated via Inter vehicle communication (IVC) systems.

6 These new features are available on North America and EU models only.”

Nissan LEAF remains the best-selling electric car in history with more than 380,000 sales since 2010 (including over 128,000 in the U.S.). The time will tell whether e+ will enable the LEAF to stay on top a few years from now. A lot depends on prices.

Denis Le Vot, senior vice president and chairman, Nissan North America said:

“The new Nissan LEAF e+ offers all of the style, convenience and electric vehicle benefits that have helped make LEAF the best-selling electric vehicle in the world, plus even more driving excitement, range, power and choice,” said . “Customers now have a selection of powertrains and models to best suit their driving needs.”

“Nissan Intelligent Mobility is at the core of everything we do and the new Nissan LEAF e+ takes this vision even further. EV’s will play a significant part in our product lineup as we move forward and will lead the way to providing an efficient and sustainable future for the world.”

Nissan LEAF e+ specs (vs. LEAF 40 kWh)

62 kWh battery (+55% capacity over 40 kWh, 25% more energy dense lithium-ion cells, similar size)
battery limited warranty of 8 years/160,000 km (whichever occurs first) is standard
226 miles (364 km) of expected EPA range (up 50% from 151 miles)
160 kW electric motor (up from 110 kW) and 250 lb-ft (340 Nm) (vs. 320 Nm in 40 kWh version)
70 kW (100 kW peak) Quick Charging system (vs. less than 50 kW)
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Nissan LEAF e+ joins world’s best-selling electric vehicle family

New powertrain option offers expanded range and power

LAS VEGAS, Nevada (Jan. 8, 2018) – Nissan today unveiled the Nissan LEAF e+, further broadening the appeal of the world’s best-selling electric car*1 by offering a new powertrain with additional power and range.

The “e+” refers to the increased energy density of the model’s 62 kWh battery pack and the higher output of its powertrain. The new powertrain adds to the car’s range by approximately 40 percent, with EPA-estimated range of up to 226 miles, ensuring that there’s a Nissan LEAF to meet the driving needs of a wider range of customers.

“The new Nissan LEAF e+ offers all of the style, convenience and electric vehicle benefits that have helped make LEAF the best-selling electric vehicle in the world, plus even more driving excitement, range, power and choice,” said Denis Le Vot, senior vice president and chairman, Nissan North America. “Customers now have a selection of powertrains and models to best suit their driving needs.”

The LEAF e+ will be sold under the LEAF PLUS Series in the US and Canada, with each trim level receiving its own designation of S PLUS, SV PLUS and SL PLUS. Globally, the vehicle will be referred to as the Nissan LEAF e+.

More than 380,000 Nissan LEAF vehicles have been sold globally since the 100 percent electric model first went on sale in 2010, with over 128,000 sold in the US. Equipped with advanced technologies including ProPILOT Assist semi-autonomous driving system and e-Pedal mode for one-pedal driving, the LEAF embodies Nissan Intelligent Mobility, the company’s vision for changing how cars are powered, driven and integrated into society.

“Nissan Intelligent Mobility is at the core of everything we do and the new Nissan LEAF e+ takes this vision even further,” Le Vot continued. “EV’s will play a significant part in our product lineup as we move forward and will lead the way to providing an efficient and sustainable future for the world.”

Having pioneered mass-market electric cars with the LEAF, Nissan is continuing to promote alternative vehicle transportation. The LEAF family of cars play a vital role in Nissan’s efforts to integrate electric vehicles and energy systems into customer’s lives – creating an “EV ecosystem.” Among these efforts is Nissan Energy, the company’s initiative for its electric vehicles to easily connect with energy systems to charge their batteries, power homes and businesses, or feed energy back to power grids, as well as new efforts to reuse batteries.*2

The Nissan LEAF PLUS Series is scheduled to join the LEAF at Nissan dealerships in Japan in January 2019. U.S. sales are expected to begin in spring 2019 and European sales to commence in mid-2019.

Nissan Intelligent Mobility

The Nissan LEAF e+ represents a step forward in each of the three key areas of the Nissan Intelligent Mobility vision: Intelligent Power, Intelligent Driving and Intelligent Integration.

Nissan Intelligent Power: increased range and performance
The Nissan LEAF e+ features a new version of the LEAF’s revolutionary electric powertrain, delivering excellent energy efficiency and robust torque and power output. While the current LEAF meets the needs of many customers with its driving range of EPA-estimated 150 miles, the LEAF e+ offers an EPA-estimated range of up to 226 miles, allowing customers the ability to do more between charges.*3

The high-capacity battery and more powerful, 160 kW motor in the LEAF e+ combine to produce 45 percent more power and 250 lb-ft (340 Nm) of torque, enabling faster acceleration when driving at high speeds. Accelerating from 50 mph (80 kph) to 75 mph (120 kph) is nearly 13 percent quicker. This allows the LEAF e+ to confidently pass slower-moving vehicles, exit corners faster and more seamlessly, and merge easily with fast-moving traffic. The top speed has increased by approximately 10 percent for comfortable cruising.

Thanks to the available new 70 kW (100 kW peak) Quick Charging system, the 2019 Nissan LEAF e+ can charge more efficiently than ever.*3 Based on early testing, Nissan LEAF e+ owners can expect similar charging times when hooked up to a 100 kW charger as current LEAF owners do with a 50 kW charger, despite a 55 percent larger battery storage capacity.

Even with a 25 percent increase in energy density and the increase in energy storage capacity, the LEAF e+ battery pack is almost the same size and configuration as the pack in the Nissan LEAF. Other than a 5-millimeter increase in overall height (16-inch wheels), the car’s exterior and interior dimensions are unchanged.

Because ownership satisfaction and peace of mind are pivotal for all Nissan LEAF owners, the battery limited warranty of 8 years/160,000 km (whichever occurs first) is standard for all versions.

Nissan Intelligent Driving: innovative ProPILOT features and smooth e-Pedal operation
Playing a leading role in Nissan Intelligent Driving is ProPILOT Assist, an in-lane semi-autonomous driving technology that can automatically adjust the distance to the vehicle ahead, using a speed preset by the driver (between about 18 mph and 62 mph). ProPILOT Assist can also help the driver steer and keep the vehicle centered in its lane. If the car in front stops, ProPILOT Assist can automatically apply the brakes to bring the vehicle to a full halt if necessary. After coming to a full stop, the vehicle can remain in place even if the driver’s foot is off the brake. If traffic restarts, the car will resume driving when the driver touches the steering wheel-mounted ProPILOT Assist switch again or lightly presses the accelerator to activate the system. All these functions can reduce stress when driving on the highway in both heavy and fast-moving traffic.

Further enhancing the LEAF’s driving experience is e-Pedal, which allows the driver to start, accelerate, decelerate and stop using only the accelerator pedal.*4 To match the LEAF e+’s additional power and increased mass, Nissan has reprogrammed the e-Pedal software for smoother operation and enhanced pedal feedback, especially for operation in reverse, and for smoother and more rapid deceleration, making it easier to stop the car using e-Pedal, even when backing up.

In addition to ProPILOT and e-Pedal, every LEAF is equipped with advanced safety technologies including Intelligent Lane Intervention, Lane Departure Warning, Intelligent Emergency Braking, Blind Spot Warning, Rear Cross Traffic Alert and Intelligent Around View Monitor with moving object detection.

Nissan Intelligent Integration: updated interface, larger display and convenient updates
The new Nissan LEAF links drivers, vehicles and communities through its convenient graphic-based Human Machine Interface. It allows the owner to use the NissanConnect smartphone app to perform tasks such as monitoring the vehicle’s state of charge, scheduling charging to benefit from optimal energy tariffs, finding the nearest charging station, and heating or cooling the car before getting in.

New for the LEAF e+ (on North American and EU models) is a larger, thin-film transistor, full-color 8-inch display, with an updated navigation system that can be linked to a compatible smartphone. The display features smartphone-like operation including swiping, scrolling and tapping. Applications, maps and firmware are updated over the air with the simple touch of a button, instead of having to manually update by USB or at a Nissan dealership.*5

Other new features include Door-to-Door Navigation, which syncs the vehicle’s navigation system with your compatible smartphone for seamless driving and walking directions. The Connections feature allows any of the car’s passengers to quickly and easily connect to a device within the vehicle.*6

Integration goes beyond what’s in the vehicle and now includes Nissan Energy, the company’s existing and future initiatives for Vehicle-to-Grid, Vehicle-to-Building and Vehicle-to-Home connections, generating solar electricity, as well as reusing batteries. With Nissan Energy, LEAF vehicles are part of a larger electric vehicle ecosystem.*2

Sleek, modern design

One of the most eye-catching exterior elements of the new Nissan LEAF is the car’s sleek, streamlined silhouette, which maximizes aerodynamic efficiency. The car’s bold fascia features Nissan’s signature V-Motion grille with blue 3D mesh. The car’s streamlined profile gives it a sporty look, while the rear features a distinctive tail light design.

The LEAF e+ carries over most of the LEAF’s design. Subtle clues to its e+ designation include a revised front fascia with blue highlights and an “e+” logo plate on the underside of the charge port lid.

There will also be a rear trim level badge for U.S. and Canada which will be designated as S PLUS, SV PLUS and SL PLUS.

Like the standard model, the LEAF e+ boasts a spacious, highly functional interior with a quality, high-tech feel. The combination of premium materials throughout the cabin befits a luxury vehicle. Vibrant blue contrast stitching for the steering wheel, seats and instrument panel accentuate the car as a Nissan electric vehicle.

Pricing

North America pricing will be announced closer to on-sale date.

About Nissan North America

In North America, Nissan’s operations include automotive styling, engineering, consumer and corporate financing, sales and marketing, distribution and manufacturing. Nissan is dedicated to improving the environment under the Nissan Green Program and has been recognized annually by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency as an ENERGY STAR® Partner of the Year since 2010. More information on Nissan in North America and the complete line of Nissan and INFINITI vehicles can be found online at www.nissanusa.com and www.infinitiusa.com, or visit the U.S. media sites nissannews.com and infinitinews.com.

About Nissan Motor Co., Ltd.
Nissan is a global full-line vehicle manufacturer that sells more than 60 models under the Nissan, INFINITI and Datsun brands. In fiscal year 2017, the company sold 5.77 million vehicles globally, generating revenue of 11.9 trillion yen. On April 1, 2017, the company embarked on Nissan M.O.V.E. to 2022, a six-year plan targeting a 30 percent increase in annualized revenues to 16.5 trillion yen by the end of fiscal 2022, along with cumulative free cash flow of 2.5 trillion yen. As part of Nissan M.O.V.E. to 2022, the company plans to extend its leadership in electric vehicles, symbolized by the world’s best-selling all-electric vehicle in history, the Nissan LEAF. Nissan’s global headquarters in Yokohama, Japan, manages operations in six regions: Asia & Oceania; Africa, the Middle East & India; China; Europe; Latin America; and North America. Nissan has partnered with French manufacturer Renault since 1999 and acquired a 34 percent stake in Mitsubishi Motors in 2016. Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi is today the world’s largest automotive partnership, with combined sales of more than 10.6 million vehicles in calendar year 2017.

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*1 Based on cumulative sales data from December 2010 to December 2018.

*2 Availability of features and components vary by geographic region.

*3 Targeted range estimates for LEAF S PLUS only; subject to appropriate regulator confirmation. Actual range will vary with trim levels, options and driving conditions; see Customer Disclosure Form for details. Charging capacity may vary based on battery temperature.

*4 Those who prefer conventional driving can still make full use of both the accelerator and brake pedals.

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There are 2 ways manufacturers can wiggle with price and hit different price points: battery/range, and trim level. Even if the range is below some others, I don't think it would be a problem if the price is cheaper than those longer range EVs.

That range works for my commute and errand running, but what's sucks is there's no word of temp management
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Nissan*is giving the people what they want at CES: a longer-range Leaf. Called the Leaf e+, it brings the*electric car's*range up to 226 miles thanks to a 62 kWh battery pack. The regular Leaf's 40 kWh pack provides 150 miles of range, so the Leaf e+ gets a 76-mile boost. The larger battery pack doesn't take up much extra room, either, adding about 0.2 inches in total overall height with the 16-inch wheels – other dimensions are unchanged.

For the larger battery pack, Nissan developed a faster 70 kW charging system that should allow quick-charge times similar to the current 40 kWh Leaf – and that's despite a 55 percent larger battery. The current Leaf can reach 60 percent charge (90 miles) in 30 minutes, so we can calculate that the Leaf e+ will replenish about 135 miles of range in 30 minutes.

To go along with your big battery, you'll also be getting more power in the Leaf e+. It isn't*sports car*territory, but the 160 kW electric motor makes 201 horsepower and 250 pound-feet of torque. That's 54 horsepower and 14 pound-feet of torque more than the Leaf with the smaller battery makes. Zero to 60 mph times aren't quoted by Nissan, but the trip from 50-75 mph is done 13 percent quicker. Top speed goes to about 105 mph, too.

Nissan revamped the e-Pedal system to account for the Leaf e+'s increased mass. The system will also improve refinement and pedal modulation in reverse, a sticking point in the current Leaf. It'll also provide more regenerative braking overall, allowing the driver to stop more effectively using only the e-Pedal.

Unfortunately, this improved battery pack still uses the old air cooling system, not the liquid cooling many other manufacturers have utilized to maintain temperatures. While the air-cooled battery is lighter and simpler than a liquid-cooled unit, which is Nissan's continuing justification for the system, it will come as a disappointment to many who are frustrated by how the charging system responds to battery pack heat by turning down charging speeds. The Leaf would undoubtedly be more expensive with liquid cooling, so you'll be getting a break on those monthly payments for the compromise.

Appearance-wise, the Leaf e+ doesn't look a whole lot different than the regular Leaf. It gets a front fascia with blue highlights up front, and a "Plus" badge sits out back. An "e+" logo plate sits under the lid of the charging port. The infotainment system gets updated with a larger 8-inch screen and new software.

Everything else carries over from the recently redesigned 2018 Leaf. We're told the Leaf e+ will be rolling into*dealerships*come spring 2019. Pricing is unavailable for the time being, but*rumors*point to about a $6,600 increase over the normal Leaf. The current base price is $30,875, so this increase puts it in the realm of other cars with similar range such as the*Chevy*Bolt and*Hyundai Kona*Electric.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/01/08/...e-battery-ces/

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There are 2 ways manufacturers can wiggle with price and hit different price points: battery/range, and trim level. Even if the range is below some others, I don't think it would be a problem if the price is cheaper than those longer range EVs.

That range works for my commute and errand running, but what's sucks is there's no word of temp management
It sounds like it will use the same air-cooled design.
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Well now the range works. Will the Tax break still be in place in March/April?
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BTW, this part is interesting:

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Integration goes beyond what’s in the vehicle and now includes Nissan Energy, the company’s existing and future initiatives for Vehicle-to-Grid, Vehicle-to-Building and Vehicle-to-Home connections, generating solar electricity, as well as reusing batteries. With Nissan Energy, LEAF vehicles are part of a larger electric vehicle ecosystem.*2
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Cool. That means I'll be able to pick one up used in a couple years for a song.
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Cool. That means I'll be able to pick one up used in a couple years for a song.
Maybe,

I think the days of cheap Leafs are gone.
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Its still Chademo which is not what everyone else is using.

IMO its a big mistake not going with the mainstream CCS charging.
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Its still Chademo which is not what everyone else is using.

IMO its a big mistake not going with the mainstream CCS charging.
Rapid charging is almost pointless, IMHO, unless you're taking a long drive. When we bought our Leaf, Chademo was a requirement. Had to have it, no ifs ands or buts.


We have used it zero times in 6 months of ownership. Zero. It's available everywhere for us, it's nice to know that if we have to we can, but L2 charging at home and when out has been just fine. Even doing one way drives of 60 miles or more, we just charge while we do whatever we were going to do.
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Rapid charging is almost pointless, IMHO, unless you're taking a long drive. When we bought our Leaf, Chademo was a requirement. Had to have it, no ifs ands or buts.


We have used it zero times in 6 months of ownership. Zero. It's available everywhere for us, it's nice to know that if we have to we can, but L2 charging at home and when out has been just fine. Even doing one way drives of 60 miles or more, we just charge while we do whatever we were going to do.
You have multiple cars in the household though right? I drove the Leaf as my only car for 3 years and Chademo was definitely needed and used. Not all the time but was definitely used on the reg. 40-50 miles from home well I’m not going to use public L2 charging and be stuck somewhere 3 hours. Chademo was 20 minutes to get enough juice to get back home to my L2 charging.

If it’s a 2nd or additional car in the household then of course it isn’t as big of an issue.
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You have multiple cars in the household though right? I drove the Leaf as my only car for 3 years and Chademo was definitely needed and used. Not all the time but was definitely used on the reg. 40-50 miles from home well I’m not going to use public L2 charging and be stuck somewhere 3 hours. Chademo was 20 minutes to get enough juice to get back home to my L2 charging.

If it’s a 2nd or additional car in the household then of course it isn’t as big of an issue.
We do, and we take our van on the trips. Trips for us are almost always to places with little to no infrastructure, so most any EV would be unable to perform. That said, I'm hoping VW puts the ID Buzz into production with a Westfalia package. Perfect car for me, especially if it can charge from a campground outlet.

Edit: I'm not saying I regret looking for a Chademo car, because I don't. I'm sure it will come in use some day. It's just not been as necessary as we thought.
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