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Old 09-11-2020, 06:27 AM   #1
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It's a sad day for Hyundai performance fans.

Hyundai has been hard at work convincing the world that it can produce capable sports cars, and from what we've seen so far with cars such as the Veloster N, they are doing a pretty good job. Its bespoke performance "N" brand has been gaining traction in the motoring community and is starting to bleed into other Hyundai models, or so we thought. The new Hyundai Tucson, which promises to bring some radical styling to the table was promised to come in hot "N" guise, but according to The Korean Car Blog, this won't be happening any longer. What we do know however is that the lesser N-Line car will still be making an appearance.

The next generation Tucson is planned to make its debut on the 15th of September and will go on sale in 2021, and while the N derivative might be scrapped, the N-Line will carry the performance banner for the range. The sporty N-Line is expected to be powered by a 2.5-liter turbocharged engine spitting out a rumored 340 horsepower - up from the 286 hp in the Sonata N Line. This should be good enough for a 0 to 60 mph sprint time of under six seconds. The base car will feature a less powerful naturally-aspirated 2.5-liter engine producing 191 hp.

It was previously believed that the Kona would make the perfect platform for a hot Hyundai SUV, but back in early 2019, Hyundai revealed that it would be using the Tucson as its base for an N derivative. Those close to the N-team said that Hyundai was "not interested in making also-ran cars with N badges on them in whatever class they compete". It is unclear why the Korean manufacturer has canned the Tucson N, but it could have something to do with the fact that the Tucson isn't designed to be flung around a track, and would possibly water down the brand that is known for building cars with razor-sharp handling dynamics and strong all-round performance.
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while the N derivative might be scrapped, the N-Line will carry the performance banner for the range. The sporty N-Line is expected to be powered by a 2.5-liter turbocharged engine spitting out a rumored 340 horsepower
If that's the case, the on-paper figures still blow the competition out of the water.
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There's a lot of talk about N models, but so far we have the Veloster N and a lot of talk. At some point they need to deliver something.
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If that's the case, the on-paper figures still blow the competition out of the water.
Yeah, that's a little odd because that engine is certainly worthy of an full on N-badge in this segment.

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There's a lot of talk about N models, but so far we have the Veloster N and a lot of talk. At some point they need to deliver something.
I mentioned this in another recent N thread, but it's worth noting that though it feels like a while, Albert Beirmann only joined Hyundai in 2018; which means while he and his team may be the names behind the N-brand, we haven't *really* seen much of their work yet. We've seen some existing Sport models rebadged with the N-Line brand, and we've seen the Veloster N/Stinger/Genesis stuff all of which must have already been in development long before he joined. The car industry is a lumbering giant of an industry. For a product to reach the market from design to job one typically takes like a minimum of 4+ years; so we're still a few years away from seeing a sausage that these guys made from start to finish. We're still in the early days, they're aligning anything sporty under the new brand name, they are possibly moving an existing engine into a chassis that wouldn't have otherwise had it, etc.; but the fully N designed stuff (like the mid-engine car) is still a couple years out, and much their effect/involvement on future engine, chassis, and platform development may still be even much further out still (like up to 6-8 years).
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Yeah, that's a little odd because that engine is certainly worthy of an full on N-badge in this segment.



I mentioned this in another recent N thread, but it's worth noting that though it feels like a while, Albert Beirmann only joined Hyundai in 2018; which means while he and his team may be the names behind the N-brand, we haven't *really* seen much of their work yet. We've seen some existing Sport models rebadged with the N-Line brand, and we've seen the Veloster N/Stinger/Genesis stuff all of which must have already been in development long before he joined. The car industry is a lumbering giant of an industry. For a product to reach the market from design to job one typically takes like a minimum of 4+ years; so we're still a few years away from seeing a sausage that these guys made from start to finish. We're still in the early days, they're aligning anything sporty under the new brand name, they are possibly moving an existing engine into a chassis that wouldn't have otherwise had it, etc.; but the fully N designed stuff (like the mid-engine car) is still a couple years out, and much their effect/involvement on future engine, chassis, and platform development may still be even much further out still (like up to 6-8 years).
I don't need anything bespoke like a mid-engine supercar that I will never buy. I'm more than fine with a Veloster N sort of car in a less dumb package. They have all the parts to "N" every single small vehicle in their line. They just need to do it. The longer it takes, the less likely I think it is to actually happen.
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I don't need anything bespoke like a mid-engine supercar that I will never buy. I'm more than fine with a Veloster N sort of car in a less dumb package. They have all the parts to "N" every single small vehicle in their line. They just need to do it. The longer it takes, the less likely I think it is to actually happen.
None of that changes anything I said. The MR car was just an existing example we know of. Anything that Hyundai wasn't already developing in 2018 is gonna be years off still. Even if the parts exist, it's still a massive undertaking to concept, develop, reserve a part/whole of an existing assembly line or build a new one, send parts specifications out to suppliers, get factory tooling to change/setup the assembly line, wait for the part suppliers to tool their lines, get mule/preproduction cars made, certify the car for crash testing/emissions/mileage and such in all the markets it will be sold, etc. That whole process just actually takes years. We're rumored for example to get the Veloster N engine in the N version of the new Elantra (because like I said, that's just moving some existing Legos around), but again, even that will probably be at least MY2022.

My point is it still won't be until the *next* model Elantra N where you see this team's effect on chassis dynamics, handling/steering feel, perhaps an engine with some special sauce, more bespoke bits, etc. That's when after the N brand is fully created the rubber meets the road and we begin seeing what the letter N is actually worth.

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