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Old 02-14-2018, 03:53 PM   #26
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Old 02-14-2018, 03:59 PM   #27
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You keep revisiting a camouflaged car. I can easily see them only visibly testing a sedan. Just to keep the "big" news of a hatch return a secret as long as possible.
well we will see what happens this fall. Should be some fun times ahead
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:32 PM   #28
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how old is the current Outback? Looks like his successor.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:59 PM   #29
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It looks big.
Have you ever seen the Levorg in person? My guess is no, because it does not look "big" in person. It looks like a wagon based on a compact car... because that's what it is. Just change the roof line on the sedan to a wagon, and boom, levorg.
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Old 02-14-2018, 05:01 PM   #30
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Come on man. I said I don't want overstyling. But I don't want it understyled either.

I don't want it to be a wagon, that's my main point. My personal opinion.

The Levorg was a replacement for the Legacy wagon in its markets. It looks big. I like my cars athletic and agile. Maybe that's a little hypocritical because I don't think my own 2016 meets that image. And no, my car doesn't plow. At least not anymore. A simple alignment and control arms fixed that for me. But I don't track it either.

I just want whatever this is to be the next WRX hatch. Something more slick than the Levorg.
I guess we have a difference of opinion about what is over or under styled.

What's wrong with more choice? To head the bean counting brigade off I must state that as a consumer I don't really care what challenges or logistical hurdles Subaru has to over come, I want a fast, stylish wagon from them. Preferably something with actual gears with either one clutch or two.

I'm not sure why you'd compare the driving dynamics of a modified car to a factory car? There's any number of things to be done cure just about any ailment through the aftermarket. We both know factory WRX's and STI's under steer. They always have.
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Old 02-14-2018, 05:26 PM   #31
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You'd need more than tiki torches and picket signs to catch anyone's attention in Camden... 4 wheeler gangs and semi-automatic rifles are regular sights around there...
When in Camden (Rome).
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Old 02-14-2018, 05:48 PM   #32
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Old 02-14-2018, 05:58 PM   #33
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I guess we have a difference of opinion about what is over or under styled.

What's wrong with more choice? To head the bean counting brigade off I must state that as a consumer I don't really care what challenges or logistical hurdles Subaru has to over come, I want a fast, stylish wagon from them. Preferably something with actual gears with either one clutch or two.

I'm not sure why you'd compare the driving dynamics of a modified car to a factory car? There's any number of things to be done cure just about any ailment through the aftermarket. We both know factory WRX's and STI's under steer. They always have.
Murica's favorite word is "mainstream" and it's my least favorite word in the English language. Wagonbros is a niche, and many manus only want to make as few models as they can. They want to mainstream all da tings.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:32 PM   #34
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wagons were mainstream. Then they died. the end.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:34 PM   #35
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how old is the current Outback? Looks like his successor.
New outback is expected next year as a 2020 model.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:41 PM   #36
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wagons were mainstream. Then they died. the end.
That was profound, thank you for sharing.
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:55 PM   #37
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The Levorg was a replacement for the Legacy wagon in its markets. It looks big. I like my cars athletic and agile.
The Levorg is a WRX Wagon. Just look at how little difference there is.
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Old 02-14-2018, 09:19 PM   #38
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Yeah, but he doesn't want a wagon. It's best that the rest of us not have what is clearly in production....for reasons.
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Yeah, but he doesn't want a wagon. It's best that the rest of us not have what is clearly in production....for reasons.
But it looks big. (Looks at measurements)

Isn’t it Obvious, Obvious, ain’t much different at all until you get past that rear door.

I swear some sedanbros just don’t want to see the wagon made.
The Levorg STi’s “looked” killer. Reminds me of the old STI swaps on the wagons. Oh well, you can buy the Levorg, just tan your skin and get a new passport. Oh wait, they sell it in white folks countries too, just not their #1 market. That makes a lot of sense
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But it looks big. (Looks at measurements)

Isn't it Obvious, Obvious, ain't much different at all until you get past that rear door.

I swear some sedanbros just don't want to see the wagon made.
The Levorg STi's "looked" killer. Reminds me of the old STI swaps on the wagons. Oh well, you can buy the Levorg, just tan your skin and get a new passport. Oh wait, they sell it in white folks countries too, just not their #1 market. That makes a lot of sense
I just don't understand that mentality, why do people feel the need to just pee in others Cheerios? Anyways, we're not asking for anything that would have to be made from scratch, it's already made. Well, maybe I am asking for a bit much with the whole one or two clutch thing.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:40 AM   #41
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Any idea what kind of engine might be in this new tourer? If you ask me, the secret shot of the back of that car actually looks more compact SUV.

Wrx hatch or wagon, compact SUV,, it will most likely be on the global platform. Engine, 4 cylinder. Fa20 or a slightly modded version of it.

In any case, if it's low and has more than 200HP, I'm sold... Hatch/wagon bring it on, North Americans have been waiting a long time!

I love my little Impreza sport hatch. But when I bought it I really wanted the levorg/legacy wagon.

Fingers crossed.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:49 AM   #42
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When in Camden (Rome).
Do as the who do? Keep going.....

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Old 02-15-2018, 08:35 AM   #43
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The Levorg is a WRX Wagon. Just look at how little difference there is.
Thanks for that, maybe you should inherit my username.

I'm going to quote the image for comparison's sake. This is what I'd like to see. But maybe with more GR-like or boxier flared fenders. And less wing. It's a hatchback, not a wagon. That's all I'm saying.

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Yeah, but he doesn't want a wagon. It's best that the rest of us not have what is clearly in production....for reasons.
The argument of bringing the Levorg here because it's "already in production" is just pointless because we will never see it and this thread is about the next generation of Subaru models.

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Old 02-15-2018, 09:12 AM   #44
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I really hope SOA doesn't leave us out again I wouldn't be surprised, but fingers crossed regardless.
it should be pretty obvious that they do not intend for the USA market to get a hatch/wagon.

they debut the concept sedan in the USA.

they debut the concept hatch/wagon in Geneva.

clear message that the sedan is for USA, not the hatch.
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it should be pretty obvious that they do not intend for the USA market to get a hatch/wagon.

they debut the concept sedan in the USA.

they debut the concept hatch/wagon in Geneva.

clear message that the sedan is for USA, not the hatch.
Hope that's not the case. Doesn't make much sense to me that they can give us the Impreza hatch as well as the Crosstrek but the WRX/STi hatch is blasphemy. I see more hatchback Imprezas near me than sedans by a long shot. And just more Crosstreks period.

With the SGP, wouldn't multiple body styles be easier to offer?
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confirmed, 2020 WRX hatch featuring aggressive exterior styling, red stitching inside, and a 148hp 2.0L power house.
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I would buy the sh!7 out of that.
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If anything, I would love a more straight up and down hatch area than sloping, give it more of a shooting brake look and allow for animals/cargo to fit easier.

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confirmed, 2020 WRX hatch featuring aggressive exterior styling, red stitching inside, and a 148hp 2.0L power house.
That's not fair. It's 152 now.
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The argument of bringing the Levorg here because it's "already in production" is just pointless because we will never see it and this thread is about the next generation of Subaru models.

It isn’t pointless, it serves to point out that the reason we aren’t getting it isn’t that it would require a large financial investment from Subaru. It’s also relevant to the next model so I can point out again that the product I want is already made and the only reason I can’t give SOA more of my money is because Tom Doll refuses to bring it over. Finally, who cares if it’s pointless? If I want to express my desire to buy it and frustration that I cannot I’m going to.

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If anything, I would love a more straight up and down hatch area than sloping, give it more of a shooting brake look and allow for animals/cargo to fit easier.

--kC
Agreed, function over form.
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