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Old 04-26-2007, 11:16 PM   #1
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okay, so a few months ago i got my subie (95 L 3,000$, 89k miles) body is in great shape except for that rear fender part behind the doors.(tiny bit of rust) runs strong ( for a 1.8) clutch feels good. awd drive was awesome this winter. i know it's an old car now and is dated, but is this still valuable to people, even though it's slow i love the car.whaddya think??
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:42 AM   #2
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it is a terrible car and you should let me take it off your hands. no one wants old junk like that anymore. :wink:

seriously, it is a great car. you should really get that rust stopped ASAP or it will consume the whole car before you know it.

spend some money on the suspension, wheels, tires, and brakes.

but if you upgrade the wheels stick with a 15 inch wheel. the larger and heavier 16s and 17s will really be noticeable with the EJ18 you have under the hood.

my brother had a car just like that. it was a blast to drive.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:25 AM   #3
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yeah i'm gonna see what i can do with rust eventually.my friend's dad is working out of his garage now after running his own shop for 20 years or something.......just a little bit of rust for now though. i'm gonna put 2 new rear struts eventually, and then the fronts when i have the money. i don't know how much i want to upgrade stuff yet. i was thinking about doing a fun mini-NA build maybe new header, exhaust, intake, possibly cams and light flywheel, i don't how much that would free up but.... oh yeah i got 14 inch wheels right now, i thought about 15's but.......are they the same outside diam or a little bigger? how much would that affect the speedo?

i was also thinking about the brakes, at least front though........early wrx ones switch over right??
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:59 AM   #4
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yeah i'm gonna see what i can do with rust eventually.my friend's dad is working out of his garage now after running his own shop for 20 years or something.......just a little bit of rust for now though. i'm gonna put 2 new rear struts eventually, and then the fronts when i have the money. i don't know how much i want to upgrade stuff yet. i was thinking about doing a fun mini-NA build maybe new header, exhaust, intake, possibly cams and light flywheel, i don't how much that would free up but.... oh yeah i got 14 inch wheels right now, i thought about 15's but.......are they the same outside diam or a little bigger? how much would that affect the speedo?

i was also thinking about the brakes, at least front though........early wrx ones switch over right??
Ok well First let me say that there are many people who will agree that the older cars (93-01) are some of th best subaru ever made..

Will the brakes swap rigth over yes BUT your rims are too small look in the conversion section there is a writeup on it.

now for the big disapointment. there isnt much for the 1.8L no headers, intake maybe, Exhuast of course, cams no worth it, lightweight flywheel not sure but again not worth it

I would recomend simply finding a EJ25 our of some guys RS and swapping that I have seen them for around $500 to $750 you just have to look around

As stated before suspension will show the best gains

Lower it
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:08 PM   #5
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I have a 95, and boy do I have a rust problem

Same thing with the rear fenders. Last summer I grinded down all the paint and a good bit of metal to attempt to get all the rust off. One side even had a hole, but nothing some bondo and sheet metal could't fix. Looked good for some time after that, but now it's back again I'll have to at least touch it up a little bit this summer.

So if you find anything that works, make sure to tell me haha

Oh, and if your looking to go cheap on suspension parts, get the e-bay strut bars, a 20mm RSB, and RS springs. Decent setup for the money. That way you can run that 1.8 hard without a swap and the suspension will help a great deal after if you decide to go with it.
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:30 PM   #6
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I love L's, good buy! Mod the suspension and drive it, someday you can swap it and have a sick impreza.
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:39 PM   #7
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Congrats!

It may not be a fast car. It can be a very fun car to drive because of its lack of power.

I have a 95L as well, and it was sooo much fun driving the car around an AutoX because I can basically put my foot to the floor the entire time and toss it around .

It has now become more a chore after I swapped in a 207.

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Old 04-27-2007, 03:17 PM   #8
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Ok well First let me say that there are many people who will agree that the older cars (93-01) are some of th best subaru ever made..

Will the brakes swap rigth over yes BUT your rims are too small look in the conversion section there is a writeup on it.

now for the big disapointment. there isnt much for the 1.8L no headers, intake maybe, Exhuast of course, cams no worth it, lightweight flywheel not sure but again not worth it

I would recomend simply finding a EJ25 our of some guys RS and swapping that I have seen them for around $500 to $750 you just have to look around

As stated before suspension will show the best gains

Lower it
Sway bars
Strut Bars


Some sites to look at

Boxer4racing.com
Rallitek.com
Get-Primitive.com
Renickmotorsports.com

to name a few... best of luck and welcome to the subaru community
Any dual port header will fit the ej18. Most EJ25 parts will swap right over. Finding parts isn't the problem, it's the fact that they don't do much of anything once installed...
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:21 PM   #9
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Stay tuned to Subiesport as we are building a 93L wagon. There is ALOT you can do with a 1.8-liter AWD 5-speed.
Brake swap, suspension swap, TURBO.... all being covered.
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:27 PM   #10
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Stay tuned to Subiesport as we are building a 93L wagon. There is ALOT you can do with a 1.8-liter AWD 5-speed.
Brake swap, suspension swap, TURBO.... all being covered.
That'll be good....I like my 93L, but is a pain to find parts for.
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:32 PM   #11
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Why is it a pain? Everything WRX fits... The GD and GC chassis are identical. Suspension, engine, even some of the body stuff is a direct bolt on. What can't you find?
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thanks guys. yeah still just keep it stock for now. i kinda want to put some fogs on her, relay with heads lights and switch (good idea??) just some after market ones would be good too.and the susp would be fun. needs rear sway bar too. i'd need new rear bars right for the brackets for the links?? i'd love to do a 2.5 swap that wuld be pretty sweet or a small turbo like 5-6 psi. would that give the same power as a 2.5 though??
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5-6 PSI would be more power than a 2.5 if you did it right. a 2.5 will be more reliable in the long run though.
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:13 AM   #14
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thanks guys. yeah still just keep it stock for now. i kinda want to put some fogs on her, relay with heads lights and switch (good idea??) just some after market ones would be good too.and the susp would be fun. needs rear sway bar too. i'd need new rear bars right for the brackets for the links?? i'd love to do a 2.5 swap that wuld be pretty sweet or a small turbo like 5-6 psi. would that give the same power as a 2.5 though??
i think the rs puts like 130 @ the wheels..the 1.8 is like 90 AWHP and 6 psi is about 75 hp..i think it'd be faster.

i plan on running like 18 psi with my 1.8 once its done
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Any dual port header will fit the ej18. Most EJ25 parts will swap right over. Finding parts isn't the problem, it's the fact that they don't do much of anything once installed...
I thought the ej18 had single port heads.

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Why is it a pain? Everything WRX fits... The GD and GC chassis are identical. Suspension, engine, even some of the body stuff is a direct bolt on. What can't you find?
Identical chassis? What body parts from a GD will blot directly onto a GC?
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:57 AM   #16
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Nope, dual port. The only single port heads were some ej22s.
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Interesting. I wonder what the logic was behind that?
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Old 04-28-2007, 04:07 AM   #18
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Not sure but for me since i have the EJ22 with Single Port It sucks since the only headers i can get are the Borla so no Equal Length headers for meunless custom done.

From my understanding it goes like this

Phase 1 EJ22 = Dual Port Headers (Most legacys)

Phase 2 EJ22 = Single Port Headers ( Most Impreza's)
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Old 04-28-2007, 04:09 AM   #19
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I had a 95 LX with a 2.2 and dual port heads. I just figured that all the 2.2 Imprezas had it, but as I read up more, I realized it was not so common.
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I'd recommend throwing some OEM 15" wheels on there from an outback or legacy or something. You can pick the tire size that most closely matches your outer diameter here: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Get some stock RS or Legacy GT springs for cheap or get some upgraded ones and slap some KYB GR-2's on there with some new strut mounts.

Add a rear swaybar if you don't have one (mine didn't), get brackets from the junkyard. Upgrade your bar if you do have one.

Get some better brake pads, Hawks were great on mine with new rotors.

This adds up to not much $ if you do your own work.

I never felt that any power mods for my EJ18 would have been worth the cash. I had always heard that a Phase 1 EJ25 would run off the EJ18 ECU. You just have to bend the power steering hard lines a bit. Its in NASIOC somewhere here. For the amount of $ spent, your gains will be small with the EJ18.

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Old 04-29-2007, 12:46 AM   #21
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my brother did the same thing.

he also added the STi shifter and the whiteline Anti Lift Kit.

that car was so much fun to rally cross. you never had to let off the gas.
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I got a 95 1.8 L for a project car. I'm doing a FWD AT -> AWD MT swap. 1.8 w/ 2.2 heads turbo frankenmotor. Every upgrade bushing under the sun, suspension, swaybar, skid plate, diff protector, wrx wheels, and the list goes on.
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As everybody stated, suspension/brakes/wheels and tires is where you should start.

And as jwan01 is planning there are a few who have turboed the 1.8.

I would be concerned about the rust, but I live in semi-arid state where rust is not too common, so I guess that's subjective.
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thanks guys. yeah still just keep it stock for now. i kinda want to put some fogs on her, relay with heads lights and switch (good idea??) just some after market ones would be good too.and the susp would be fun. needs rear sway bar too. i'd need new rear bars right for the brackets for the links?? i'd love to do a 2.5 swap that wuld be pretty sweet or a small turbo like 5-6 psi. would that give the same power as a 2.5 though??
I don't know who originated the idea that a turbo 1.8 = to an NA 2.5 but that is complete crap. Ask me how I know

To do the rear sway bar you need the bar, brackets and then a lateral link with the tab for the endlink to bolt onto. But it makes a difference. Again this issue of Subiesport has a great install article, one word: Bushings.

For about the cost of a used GC 2.5RS you can have an L that out handles and out accelerates a WRX. But perhaps I have said too much?
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I don't know who originated the idea that a turbo 1.8 = to an NA 2.5 but that is complete crap. Ask me how I know
I don't think that anybody said it would be = to. But I think it would be a fun project.
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