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Old 10-12-2018, 06:51 AM   #1
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By nicknaming the next-gen 2 Series the “Drift Machine,” BMW has effectively confirmed the coupe will retain the tail-happy rear-wheel-drive layout. It also likely means there will be a new M2 at some point in the next decade, but the current one still hasn’t been dialed to the maximum. Just a couple of days ago we shared a batch of spy shots with an amped-up M2 prototype, with the rumor mill pointing towards a future CS or CSL derivative.

Fast forward to present day, our friends at BMW Blog claim the model in question will go by the name of M2 CS. Their sources have revealed production is going to begin in March 2020, so we’re expecting an official reveal to take place either by the end of next year or early next decade.

If you can't wait until then, the M2 Competition is totally worth buying:

The decision to slap the “CS” badge on the car’s trunk lid makes perfect sense taking into account BMW already has the M4 CS and M3 CS in its growing portfolio of performance cars. Details about the forthcoming M2 CS are murky at this point, but reports are indicating engineers will shave weight over the current M2 Competition, which tips the scales at 3,655 lbs (1,658 kg) with the automatic transmission and 3,600 lbs (1,632 kg) with the manual.

It wouldn’t be too far-fetched to assume power will be up from the 405 horsepower (302 kilowatts) and 406 pound-feet (551 Newton-meters) of torque you get from the S55 engine underneath the M2 Competition’s hood.

The new BMW M2 CS is expected to serve as a last hurrah for the current-gen 2 Series and will allegedly be offered for only about a year as a limited-run edition. Time will tell whether there will also be a CLS version, but we wouldn’t count on it.
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BMW M is out testing a new version of the M2, believed to be a hardcore M2 CS due out later this year.

The car may look like the recently launched M2 Competition but if you look a little closer you'll notice some key differences.

For instance, the front fascia sports an additional lip spoiler lifted out of the M Performance parts catalog. There's also a trunk lid spoiler that matches the design used on the BMW M4 CS.



Also borrowed from the M4 CS are this M2 tester's wheel design and massive carbon-ceramic brake rotors. No doubt the car is also wearing a set of Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires, just like the M4 CS.

The M2 CS is expected to offer about 445 horsepower, likely from the 3.0-liter twin-turbocharged inline-6 fitted to the M3/M4 instead of the regular M2's single-turbo engine. The regular M2 makes 365 hp while the M2 Competition with the same engine makes 405 hp.

We also hear that shoppers will be able to choose between manual or dual-clutch transmissions, as well as between four colors for the exterior (Black Sapphire, Alpine White, Hockenheim Silver, Misano Blue). A carbon fiber-reinforced plastic roof is also expected to be fitted as standard.

While it's yet to be confirmed, we heard last August that the M2 CS is being looked at as a potential limited-edition model for the United States. An even more hardcore M2 CSL is expected to follow but as a global model.

The CSL cars will be targeted at track enthusiasts and we should see the storied badge resurface first on an M4 CSL at some point. The latter will essentially replace 2016's M4 GTS.

Note, BMW M is already laying the groundwork for a redesigned M2. The car is referred to internally as the "drift machine." Sounds like it will be a corker.


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The M2 CS is expected to offer about 445 horsepower, likely from the 3.0-liter twin-turbocharged inline-6 fitted to the M3/M4 instead of the regular M2's single-turbo engine. The regular M2 makes 365 hp while the M2 Competition with the same engine makes 405 hp.

I’m confused by this paragraph. They are saying the M2C makes 405hp with of the N55 single turbo engine? The M2C uses the S55.
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Old 07-04-2019, 06:22 AM   #4
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The track-focused, go-faster M2 is coming our way

by Andrei Nedelea, on June 24, 2019, 21:00
BMW is reportedly readying an even hotter version of its M2 to sit above the M2 Competition - they are the M2 CS and M2 CSL, and our spies believe that’s what they captured in these photos. Some older reports from before the Competition model was launched, called it the M2 GTS. The white prototype features several changes over the M2 Competition and, as a Whole, it looks like a more aggressive, track-focused machine.

It has been suggested that the M2 CS would be a North America-only limited model available from 2020 and that the CSL would be even more extreme and sold on other markets from 2021, but right now it’s too early to make these predictions. Both will clearly be lighter, more powerful and better around a track than the Competition which in turn is one step up from the base M2.

Update 6/24/2019: The 2021 BMW M2 CS was caught testing again, and this time we’ve managed get a look at the interior. Check out all the details in the spy shots section below.

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EXCLUSIVE: BMW M2 CS will be unveiled Fall 2019
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BMWBLOG can now report that the highly-awaited BMW M2 CS will be unveiled this fall. The M2 CS is going through its final testing stages …

BMWBLOG can now report that the highly-awaited BMW M2 CS will be unveiled this fall. The M2 CS is going through its final testing stages and will head for production in March 2020. The production ready model will NOT be shown in Frankfurt, but rather shortly after and its public debut will be set for the 2019 Los Angeles Auto Show.

On the outside, the new M2 CS will receive a carbon fiber bonnet, a carbon fiber roof with a new design, carbon fiber front splitter, carbon fiber rear spoiler, carbon fiber rear diffuser and carbon fiber side mirrors. Inside, the upgrades are just as significant and they start with the carbon fiber center console, continuing with the carbon fiber door handle cover, Alcantara trim interior with contrast in red, an M2 CS badge, M Competition seats from the M4 CS and an Alcantara M Steering Wheel with red contrasts.


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Performance wise, the S55 3.0 liter six-cylinder engine will make 450 horsepower and 550 Nm of torque which can be sent to the rear wheels via a standard six-speed manual transmission or the optional 7-speed Dual Clutch gearbox. A modified M Sport Exhaust System will provide that growly we all expect from a high-performance M car.

Other standard features include the Adaptive M Suspension, 19 inch 763M style wheels in either Jet Black high gloss or Gold matte. The braking power is provided by a standard M Sport braking system with red calipers or the optional, and more expensive, M-Carbon ceramic brake. There are also two tire options, CUP tires as standard or non-CUP option.

As we announced in the past, the production date is scheduled for March 2020 and will end in December 2020. It’s a limited run, as expected, so only around 2,200 are rumored to be produced. We can’t confirm that number now, but we’ll have more on that soon.

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So I should probably sell my M2 before the value tanks so that I can grab a M2C.

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Old 07-05-2019, 07:11 AM   #6
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BMW M2 CS Is An M4-Killer In The Making

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The AMG CLA 45 like the RS-3 is always going to have inferior handling due to its FWD layout so it comes down to what you like better. Straight line acceleration or better handling. I very much like the new MB interiors so like most MB’s you buy for the engine and interior and live with the exterior styling and not best in class handling.
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The M2 CS is expected to offer about 445 horsepower, likely from the 3.0-liter twin-turbocharged inline-6 fitted to the M3/M4 instead of the regular M2's single-turbo engine. The regular M2 makes 365 hp while the M2 Competition with the same engine makes 405 hp.

I’m confused by this paragraph. They are saying the M2C makes 405hp with of the N55 single turbo engine? The M2C uses the S55.
Yeah, noticed this, lol. They mixed up their smoking pipes - grabbed the wrong one.
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https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1653828


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M2 CS details from the private preview event held in Belgium yesterday:

450 hp
Manual gear box, DKG optional
Adaptive suspension

Red caliper sport brakes, carbon ceramic optional

763 M wheel gold or black, regular or sport cup tires,no change in tire size
Carbon fiber parts: hood, roof, outside mirrors, trunk lip, front spoiler lip, rear diffuser, central console, door handle

Chrome m2 cs badge on the trunk

Alcantara on side of the seats and doors like on the M2C, additional alcantara on top of the central console and on the dash board (ipo of the regular or carbon trim). CS embroied on the alcantara dashboard trim

Alcantara steering wheel optional

M4 Competition seats with red stitching and I believe Merino leather (for sure not Dakota). Dashboard and top door panel remain same than on the M2C and therefore imo do not blend well with the finer grain leather

M Performance exhaust

Back seats cannot be folded anymore

4 paints only : Alpine White,Misano Blue,Hockenheim Silver and Saphire Black
Apparently no claim by BMW of any weight saving

Update: Regarding the weight I asked twice. First time I was told that BMW does not claim any saving for this car (vs the M2C). I asked again to another BMW person later and after checking his laptop he said weights look identical. I stealthily saw the screen and could read in 2 columns 1575 kg. If this a EU weight it would correspond to 1500 kg (a figure mentionned to another forum member) DIN, representing a 50 kg saving vs the M2C manual. If 1575 kg is a DIN weight it could be a figure for the DCT version but in that case would just be identical to the M2C with DCT. From what we know about the car I hardly see how they could have gained 50 kgs. I suspect that if there is any gain it is relatively modest and therefore not worth to advertise.

Climate control unit seems a little bit different than on my late 2018 M2C

Start of Production : 3/2020

End of Production : 12/2020 i.e 9 months production only

2200 cars worldwide, 100 for Benelux

No word of a possible CSL version after (believe they were clueless more than trying to hide anything)

Was definively not convinced by the combo blue paint /gold wheel/red caliper. Others combo should work better. Also think the large mesh of the carbon roof does not look that nice. The dome of hood is not very noticeable although there is first a side recessed part than an elevation (may be this was due to the light of the room or the paint)

Should definitely be a great car but the base price is high (95 K Euro in Belgium) considering that it is mainly M performance and M4 competition bit and pieces added. Does not really feel unique.

M8 competition in frozen blue was also on display in the adjacent show room. Looks great but it is a big car !

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The info above confirms the info in this earlier leaked M2 CS bulletin (original post: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1614985)


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Horsepower and carbon fiber bits match with previous reports, but it isn't losing weight and it could be very expensive.

The new BMW M2 CS reveal is nigh, and by that we mean sometime between now and the Los Angeles Auto Show in late November. Rather, we think this timeframe is accurate – an official reveal date hasn’t been announced yet but the rumor mill is hot and heavy with the car having its public debut in LA. That means an online debut between now and then is likely, but apparently a special sneak preview for VIPs already occurred in Belgium. A Bimmerpost forum member with the username dgm3 was allegedly there and posted up a wealth of information.

None of the stats can be confirmed at this time, but it all lines up with previous rumors and leaks on the hotter M2. Horsepower is listed at 450, which we’re assuming is a metric rating since this event took place in Europe. That would translate to 444 hp for the U.S. market, which is dead-on accurate with previous reports. It will reportedly shift gears with either a dual-clutch transmission or an old fashioned manual, and it will get an adaptive suspension setup as well as an M performance exhaust.

Carbon-ceramic brakes will be optional, and the new post confirms the plethora of carbon fiber bits we reported previously, comprising the hood, roof, trunk lip, mirror caps, rear diffuser, and the front spoiler. Carbon fiber is also shown as comprising the door handles and center console on the inside. Alcantara with CS embroidering will also reportedly be found inside, along with M4 Competition seats.

These are tidbits we already knew, but the sneak preview from dgm3 does offer some surprises. It appears a weight reduction will not befall the M2 CS. The Bimmerpost member allegedly quizzed multiple BMW representatives at the event about weight and was told the automaker wasn’t claiming any weight savings. Furthermore, Dgm3 claims to have spied a laptop listing a weight of 1,575 kilograms, or 3,472 pounds. It’s unclear whether that figure represents curb weight or dry weight.

Only four colors will reportedly be offered on the CS – Alpine White, Hockenheim Silver, Sapphire Black, and Misano Blue. Production is said to begin next March and run through the end of 2020, with 2,200 total CS models planned. Dgm3 mentions a base price of €95,000, which translates to approximately $105,000 in U.S. currency. That’s significantly higher than the current M2 Competition sold in the States, however, official pricing usually varies quite a bit between markets.

The information seems legit, but as always, we’ll have to be patient until BMW drops an official announcement. Fortunately, we shouldn’t have much longer to wait
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There’s a lot of confusion on price right now on the Bimmer forums.
I believe the price will be in the $80K USD start range, not $105K. You can get over $100K with the Ceramic Brakes and other options. Not that it’s a real bargain anyway, by any stretch.
Torque is unchanged from M2C. Such a sweet stock package at not such a sweet price tag.
Some lucky folks will get these.
The sum of all of the parts will make this an even more enjoyable driver’s car.
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There’s a lot of confusion on price right now on the Bimmer forums.
I believe the price will be in the $80K USD start range, not $105K. You can get over $100K with the Ceramic Brakes and other options. Not that it’s a real bargain anyway, by any stretch.
Torque is unchanged from M2C. Such a sweet stock package at not such a sweet price tag.
Some lucky folks will get these.
The sum of all of the parts will make this an even more enjoyable driver’s car.
I think BMW is supposed to also release a CSL that will touch $100k. **** is ****ing insane. I could not see paying anything more than $70k for a fully optioned M2. At $100k, give me a Cayman GT4.
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^^^ Preach, that car is going to be nutz especially if they make the GT4 RS model.. omg!
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I think BMW is supposed to also release a CSL that will touch $100k. **** is ****ing insane. I could not see paying anything more than $70k for a fully optioned M2. At $100k, give me a Cayman GT4.
Problem is, realistically, the GT4 is more like $115K after it’s all said n done.
And the jury’s out on a CSL. Some are saying BMW will not be doing a CSL.
And if they did, it’d probably be at the end of the G series run...
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Keep in mind the M2 CS will be a limited edition with a production run of ~2,200 units worldwide. That adds a lot of value for some people.

I've argued that I personally don't believe the S209 will be worth an MSRP of $65k (+ADM), but that makes some hardcore Subaru loyalists very unhappy That's almost $30k more than the base STI (double the price after ADM & taxes).

The M2 CS gets a lot of the same treatment with CF bits and a bit more of power bump than the S209. The S209 will be more rare as it's limited to ~200 units.

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Problem is, realistically, the GT4 is more like $115K after it’s all said n done.
And the jury’s out on a CSL. Some are saying BMW will not be doing a CSL.
And if they did, it’d probably be at the end of the G series run...
I think when you’re spending 6 figures on a vehicle, the $15k delta suddenly becomes rather meaningless.

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I think when you’re spending 6 figures on a vehicle, the $15k delta suddenly oh becomes rather meaningless.
That's a bit of a broad statement, on the upper end of 6 figures, sure, $15k is pretty insignificant in the big picture, on the bottom end just breaking $100k, that money still matters to most buyers who aren't stupid rich.
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That's a bit of a broad statement, on the upper end of 6 figures, sure, $15k is pretty insignificant in the big picture, on the bottom end just breaking $100k, that money still matters to most buyers who aren't stupid rich.
If you’re just breaking 6 figures you shouldn’t be buying a 6 figure car. The people who can legitimately afford a $100k vehicle and not be payment broke would likely see a $15k delta as rather negligible. I’m also not sure why you’re discussing people making six figures when I’m discussing a car costing six figures.
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If you’re just breaking 6 figures you shouldn’t be buying a 6 figure car. The people who can legitimately afford a $100k vehicle and not be payment broke would likely see a $15k delta as rather negligible. I’m also not sure why you’re discussing people making six figures when I’m discussing a car costing six figures.
I'm not, you misread my reply.
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I'm not, you misread my reply.
So “upper end of 6 figures” would be $750k+ cars? What’s “upper 6 figures?
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