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Old 10-04-2016, 10:17 AM   #2576
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Speaking of cooking stoves, has anyone used the one that can charge batteries? The BioLite I think it's called? Looks interesting.
I don't think the charging rate is really worth the hassle. It doesn't take that long to boil water, so you end up burning fuel just to charge devices. Better off getting an Anker 20k+ battery pack and just using that. A hell of a lot cheaper, too.
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Old 10-04-2016, 10:30 AM   #2577
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I should have searched What makes you think the Solo is made in China?
Because when it first came out it was the first thing I looked up. The cost difference meant it HAD to be, and indeed it was/is. The official Bushbuddy design was taken over by some dudes in Alaska: http://www.nomadicstovecompany.com/

Per John's post above, the Solo stove seems perfectly fine in actual use, so I realize my gripe is a little silly. I just don't like Chinese knockoffs, especially of something that took Fritz Handel (the former Bushbuddy craftsman) a long time to perfect: https://hikinginfinland.com/2009/11/...bushbuddy.html

And Handel's original benchmark of 8 minutes to boil 1 liter of water is still accurate.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiM8IN0hgCM

13 minutes to boil water doesn't get me to want one for cooking.
That dude didn't shield it from the wind enough/correctly, and I bet that unnecessary piece of foil between the pot and the fire slowed the process down too. EDIT: I missed in the video that this guy was boiling less than HALF that much (2 cups). He absolutely was doing something wrong, especially considering his wood was perfectly dry.

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Old 10-04-2016, 10:48 AM   #2578
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I'm so happy to find this thread, we are just getting into the hiking world now and have been enjoying some shorter hikes, and finally hiked a long and harder one in RMNP last month, as well as the Flatirons in Boulder

Skypond was fine until the waterfall and the last mile or so, all in all 13 miles hiked that day.
Thsi is not skypond, this is the loch you hit first.... I don't have many picture of skypond, as I was just enjoying it and soaking it in.


Emerald lake:

Boulder from the flatirons:


we averaged about 10-15 miles a day hiking, we have a friend who does thru hiking and we might start some 2-3 day trips with her out in the pacific north west next year.


we are heading out to Denver this weekend (october 7th) for Great american beer fest, and wanted to hit a hike Saturday morning starting the hike at 6 AM anf finish by noon is the free time we have. so if anyone has any recomendation for great hikes or views that I'd love to hear some.
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Old 10-04-2016, 10:48 AM   #2579
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Speaking of cooking stoves, has anyone used the one that can charge batteries? The BioLite I think it's called? Looks interesting.
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I don't think the charging rate is really worth the hassle. It doesn't take that long to boil water, so you end up burning fuel just to charge devices. Better off getting an Anker 20k+ battery pack and just using that. A hell of a lot cheaper, too.
this.

i got one on a lark a couple of years ago. it works but you'd be better off with a battery pack. it's a fun toy but i've never taken it backpacking as there are many better options.
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Old 10-04-2016, 10:49 AM   #2580
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"Wood gas" stove.

http://heberhiking.blogspot.com/2008...ing-stove.html

We would make little "cookers" like this in the Army with whatever came to hand.
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Old 10-04-2016, 10:54 AM   #2581
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I don't think the charging rate is really worth the hassle. It doesn't take that long to boil water, so you end up burning fuel just to charge devices. Better off getting an Anker 20k+ battery pack and just using that. A hell of a lot cheaper, too.
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this.

i got one on a lark a couple of years ago. it works but you'd be better off with a battery pack. it's a fun toy but i've never taken it backpacking as there are many better options.

Well, looking them up after I posted, I'm going to agree with you guys. It says the max it can put out is 4W, that...isn't very good.
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Old 10-04-2016, 11:49 AM   #2582
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Well, looking them up after I posted, I'm going to agree with you guys. It says the max it can put out is 4W, that...isn't very good.
i have this, and it works awesome:
http://www.instapark.com/solar-power...l-charger.html
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Old 10-04-2016, 01:11 PM   #2583
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Cheat like I do!

Buy a jar of vasoline and a bag of cotton balls. Put the stove on low and melt the vasoline. Dip the cotton balls and put them in a zip lock bag.

They will burn for up to 4 minutes. We don't even use kindling in the wood stove anymore, just a cotton ball under a small piece.

No doubt there are 5,000 YouTube videos.
I grew up starting camp fires in the Pacific Northwest, so quite familiar with these and other tricks but when all the wood around is pretty saturated from the rain it would suck.
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Old 10-04-2016, 04:32 PM   #2584
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That gigantor solo stove is cool as ish. I don't see the secondary burning of the gasses actually happening completely, however, because the middle is so far away from the upper holes. Not that it's a big deal, the wood burns.

I got one of the seconds from the nomadic stove co to bring the price down a bit. Dealing with sooty pots isn't fun, and it is not a method for cooking a quick lunch on the trail. But I find it enjoyable to kill time around the fire after camp is set up making dinner with my stove. If you are impatient, buy a canister fuel stove. All my friends think I'm nuts for spending so much time messing around finding sticks, breaking them up, then constantly feeding it when they just turn a knob and hit the igniter. Yet they all find entertainment in watching the process. I'm told I need to start a Youtube channel on my cooking methods while in the woods. Wet wood doesn't mean your not eating, it just takes longer and you need to find smaller wood or split it up. It gets so freaking hot inside the chamber it dries wood out, but getting a hot chamber takes a fire starter or time. Putting in wet wood is a more constant feeding process, otherwise the flame dies out and it takes it a bit to dry the wood so it will burn to get it back.
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Old 10-04-2016, 04:45 PM   #2585
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But I find it enjoyable to kill time around the fire after camp is set up making dinner with my stove. If you are impatient, buy a canister fuel stove. All my friends think I'm nuts for spending so much time messing around finding sticks, breaking them up, then constantly feeding it when they just turn a knob and hit the igniter. Yet they all find entertainment in watching the process.
I'm so glad someone else gets it. Yeah, you can use a gas stove, but you could also just stay home and order takeout instead of going into the woods.
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Old 10-04-2016, 04:49 PM   #2586
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I'm so happy to find this thread, we are just getting into the hiking world now and have been enjoying some shorter hikes, and finally hiked a long and harder one in RMNP last month, as well as the Flatirons in Boulder

Skypond was fine until the waterfall and the last mile or so, all in all 13 miles hiked that day.
Thsi is not skypond, this is the loch you hit first.... I don't have many picture of skypond, as I was just enjoying it and soaking it in.


Emerald lake:

Boulder from the flatirons:


we averaged about 10-15 miles a day hiking, we have a friend who does thru hiking and we might start some 2-3 day trips with her out in the pacific north west next year.


we are heading out to Denver this weekend (october 7th) for Great american beer fest, and wanted to hit a hike Saturday morning starting the hike at 6 AM anf finish by noon is the free time we have. so if anyone has any recomendation for great hikes or views that I'd love to hear some.
with her?

awesome.
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Old 10-04-2016, 04:50 PM   #2587
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Thsi is not skypond, this is the loch you hit first.... I don't have many picture of skypond, as I was just enjoying it and soaking it in.

Looks amazing, dude!
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Old 10-04-2016, 04:51 PM   #2588
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next spring/summer i have two options burning through my soul right now....

Arctic Circle trail in Greenland

or

climb in either Little Swiss or Tokisitna glacier in AK and then pack raft back into Talkeetna. Either would be totally ****ing rad and the timing works. I need to ****ing get after it again.

the first would be great to go with someone but would do by myself... the latter I have temporary lined up with a good friend.
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Old 10-04-2016, 06:42 PM   #2589
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Looks amazing, dude!
Ditto. how does one maintain such a clean shave while camping?

I go from military clean cut to hobo in about 24 hours.
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Old 10-04-2016, 06:56 PM   #2590
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then pack raft back into Talkeetna.
The quaint drinking village with a small fishing problem?

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Ditto. how does one maintain such a clean shave while camping?

I go from military clean cut to hobo in about 24 hours.
I just maintain hobo status 24/7. Promotion at work in a few weeks means I might have to at least brush the old food out of my beard.
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:23 PM   #2591
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Battery powered electric.
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Old 10-06-2016, 10:09 AM   #2592
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with her?

awesome.
3 years together, we met drinking beer and this weekend we are going to hike red rocks for sunrise, then off to GABF

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Looks amazing, dude!
it was great, I can't wait to go back. we already determined we will book a campsite next year and take my daughter. it will be a lot of fun.
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Ditto. how does one maintain such a clean shave while camping?

I go from military clean cut to hobo in about 24 hours.
I have to shave daily, my beard looks so sad and red and pathetic it just doesn't belong. also I have to maintain a clean look at work, so the secret is....
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Battery powered electric.
Yep
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Old 10-07-2016, 08:24 PM   #2593
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Toddler bunk all ready to go in the camper, weather forecast is 69/59 degrees with <20% chance of rain one night, dry the rest, so it looks like she'll get her first camp out next weekend.

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Old 10-07-2016, 09:39 PM   #2594
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climb in either Little Swiss or Tokisitna glacier in AK and then pack raft back into Talkeetna. Either would be totally ****ing rad and the timing works. I need to ****ing get after it again.
I want to get a pack raft, I have visions of wandering up a mountain valley and floating out, but I don't know what I'm doing enough to justify the cost. Semi keeping an eye out for used ones. Watching people take them down McHugh creek on youtube looks like a blast.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:51 PM   #2595
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I had two friends come into town over the weekend to do an overnight from the approach trail to the AT to the Three Forks crossing just past Springer Mountain. Overall an easy hike, which worked out perfectly for the dog.

It gave me chance to try the Big Agnus UL2 and Neo Air Xlite SV out. The UL2 comes in a few pounds less and is takes up less pack space than my old tent. My 70lb dog was able to fit in with me much easier too. The sleeping pad was also way better than my old unit, with almost the same compliments. Tighter packaging, lighter weight and much more comfortable, so both units get thumbs up so far.

Here's a shot from our camp location on top of a ridge from this morning. The area is really dry and there are some forest fires in the general area, so no camp fires were to be had last night. Luckily the smoke that was clouding the area on the first day wasn't there on the second due to a wind direction shift.




And then one of us on the top of Springer Mountain, the official southern terminus of the AT.

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Was the Neo Light as noisy as people say? I tried one at REI and even in a store full of people it was annoying, I can't imagine it in the woods.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:25 PM   #2597
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Looking to get a serious hiking backpack for a 3 day through hike, and then a 5 day and then a 9 day - all taking place this summer/fall. My idea was just to go to REI and get fit for a backpack there and buy all my gear there, not to mention my co-op dividends from this year's purchases will come in also.

am I wrong on this? would getting a fit at REI be the best bet? or do any of you have an idea of where to point me to find better place.
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:46 PM   #2598
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REI is a good bet. It's where I got my Osprey
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Can you name any other store with experts on hand that can fit you? Does that store have locations all over the US should you be somewhere away from home and decide you don't like it?
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Last month, my friend was a bit dissatisfied with her Osprey after a 4 day hike (she bought the pack in Michigan,) so we stopped at the one in Denver and returned it. She found another she liked and left with that, but did not have to get a different one - a Gregory Diva. I am impressed with their packs. Lots of pockets and a built in daypack (it's the hydration bladder sleeve) and rain cover.

The REI site SUCKS ASS when it comes to adding search criteria with the check boxes!!!!!!!!!

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