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Old 06-10-2018, 10:38 AM   #76
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Shameless plug, but this is our AOS. We developed it because the mainstream AOS offerings were not performing to a standard I found acceptable as power levels increased. Namely, keeping the intake tract as clear as possible and maintaining decent crankcase vacuum under boost.


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Old 06-10-2018, 11:33 AM   #77
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Shameless plug, but this is our AOS....keeping the intake tract as clear as possible and maintaining decent crankcase vacuum under boost.]
Does it drain the scavenged oil\water back to the crankcase or hold it to be drained externally?
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:31 PM   #78
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Does it drain the scavenged oil\water back to the crankcase or hold it to be drained externally?
If mounted where the lower drain nipple is higher than the engine oil drain, there should be no problem.
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:06 PM   #79
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Does it drain the scavenged oil\water back to the crankcase or hold it to be drained externally?
The above pic shows the drain back setup, which is most common. If you want to 'catch' the stuff that's being collected, we have an optional can attachment shown here...


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Old 07-16-2018, 04:22 PM   #80
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Old 07-21-2018, 08:54 PM   #81
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so what is the expected WHP on a 3071 and a 3076 with E85 on the spoolinator and a .82 a/r?
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Old 07-22-2018, 12:07 PM   #82
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I've run neither on E85, but I would expect the 3071 to be ~500whp on E85. The 3076 will make probably +50 more, but with more lag. We always recommend the 3576 over the 3076 because it makes a lot more power (another 50 over the 3076), on less boost, and with no significant increase in lag.
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:22 PM   #83
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I've run neither on E85, but I would expect the 3071 to be ~500whp on E85. The 3076 will make probably +50 more, but with more lag. We always recommend the 3576 over the 3076 because it makes a lot more power (another 50 over the 3076), on less boost, and with no significant increase in lag.
Thanks! 3071 sounds good then for a fun street car. What is the response like on the 3071 and is a tmic best or would a fmic server better with the 3071?
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Old 07-23-2018, 07:12 AM   #84
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If the 3071 were going to be pushed, I would say running a FMIC would be a good idea. By the sounds of it, this is not a setup that's going to be pushed really hard. The other thing to consider is where you want your power. For drivability, the TMIC is going to bring you best low-mid response. For power to redline and a bit beyond, the FMIC is going to not heat soak as much. If it were me, I'd stick TMIC. I prefer to stick with TMIC until the benefits REALLY outweigh the downsides for the FMIC option. Now everyone has different priorities and checkboxes, so my philosophy may not apply to all
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:45 AM   #85
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Itís been a while...and I decided I want this!!

The 3067 you originally talked about, you can still get using your vendor pull? This is the size that is ďinstaboostĒ aka accidentally rest your big toe on the go peddle and boost occurs?

Also, Iíll need to buy an ewg and compatible up pipe correct (Grimmspeed looks sweet)?

How quickly can this setup make it to my front door after online payment (96707)?

Lastly, Iím curious how long this would take to install vs a bolt on turbo i.e. Blouch18gxtr (my second choice for super quick spool but way lower power for sure). I assume the grinding alone can be a few hours between grind a little, check fitment, grind some more, check again...will be doing this turbo project with motor in car in my garage over the weekend type of thing.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:05 PM   #86
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Itís been a while...and I decided I want this!!

The 3067 you originally talked about, you can still get using your vendor pull? This is the size that is ďinstaboostĒ aka accidentally rest your big toe on the go peddle and boost occurs?

Also, Iíll need to buy an ewg and compatible up pipe correct (Grimmspeed looks sweet)?

How quickly can this setup make it to my front door after online payment (96707)?

Lastly, Iím curious how long this would take to install vs a bolt on turbo i.e. Blouch18gxtr (my second choice for super quick spool but way lower power for sure). I assume the grinding alone can be a few hours between grind a little, check fitment, grind some more, check again...will be doing this turbo project with motor in car in my garage over the weekend type of thing.

Thanks in advance!
I can tell you that it is alot more involved than just a turbo swap. when I put mine on, we had to grind more than I thought it was going to take. ill get some pics up to show you what I mean
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:27 PM   #87
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will be doing this turbo project with motor in car in my garage over the weekend type of thing.
It's pretty involved and for the more experienced wrenches. Having access to a well rounded tool box and/or local hardware stores is also advisable. If you want experienced installer feedback, try Prime Motoring, they've done many. Far more than us (since we are not a shop/installer) so they might be able to offer some feedback.

Here's a pic of the block grinding we did for our install.

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Old 08-15-2018, 02:35 PM   #88
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It's pretty involved and for the more experienced wrenches. Having access to a well rounded tool box and/or local hardware stores is also advisable. If you want experienced installer feedback, try Prime Motoring, they've done many. Far more than us (since we are not a shop/installer) so they might be able to offer some feedback.

Here's a pic of the block grinding we did for our install.

i think hes in hawaii.. just fyi i think mine was alot more extensive
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Old 08-15-2018, 02:46 PM   #89
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Here's another pic...

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Old 08-15-2018, 09:40 PM   #90
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Hawaii it is! Yeah I have a few suby buddies here. A friend of mine yanked his sti motor, rebuilt it with forged internals, threw upgraded heads on, and is putting it back in this weekend. All in his own garage.

He’s also in his 20,s, single, and has all the free time in the world. I on the other hand have a career and 3 kids. But he’ll definitely help me with it he said. He has tons of tools. And is self (internet) taught. He’s curious about the Spoolinator but is more into highway racing in Mexico of course. Can’t wait to see what his FP Black does once he gets it tuned!
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Old 08-15-2018, 09:41 PM   #91
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And I build houses and do remodeling for a living. A little demo never scared me lol!

Thanks for the feedback guys! I know it isn’t a couple beer job, but I’d love to tackle it. It’s just a weekend car, so downtime won’t bother me. Multiple hardware stores and auto parts store within 10min from me too which is nice.
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:50 AM   #92
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And I build houses and do remodeling for a living. A little demo never scared me lol!

Thanks for the feedback guys! I know it isnít a couple beer job, but Iíd love to tackle it. Itís just a weekend car, so downtime wonít bother me. Multiple hardware stores and auto parts store within 10min from me too which is nice.
I will be at the shop on Saturday and you can always FB message with any questions you might come across.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:43 AM   #93
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And I build houses and do remodeling for a living. A little demo never scared me lol!

Thanks for the feedback guys! I know it isnít a couple beer job, but Iíd love to tackle it. Itís just a weekend car, so downtime wonít bother me. Multiple hardware stores and auto parts store within 10min from me too which is nice.
I suggest you have a 4 1/2" angle grinder with a (flat) flapper wheel disk handy...
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:17 PM   #94
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Sounds good thanks! I’ll pickuo a few different wheels for my grinder. Appreciate that advice! I figured I’d need more than some cut off wheels and my diamond all purpose blade.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:09 PM   #95
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Fiber cutoff wheels do help, I used large burr bits and cutoff wheels. Could have been prettier but I did smooth all edges to keep stress to a minimum.
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:38 AM   #96
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So for now I’m going with a basic bolt on Blouch 18gxtr8cm. Jarrad from PDX Tuning in Portland will be on Oahu tuning my car and a dozen or so of Suby brethren’s rides on Sept 7th and 8th. I will see how I like it.

Once I am bored and I feel like downing the car for a few weekends for surgery, I’ll be grabbing the Spoolinator kit. I went with the 18gxtr8cm for ease of install (only have three weeks before tuner arrives), quick spool, and transient response compared to my HTA green. I know it isn’t the Spoolinator, so I know that I’ll be back.

I think the Spoolinator is the “have your cake and eat it too” for guys who are full bolt on that didn’t go rotated from the beginning. I bought my car with full boltons and the HTA green, and I’m just trying to get the low end back (from my old stage 2 04STI I owned in college) since I do mostly stoplight take offs. High hp and freeway running isn’t really my thing.

After watching KillerB’s videos, I know I’ll be back!

In the meantime, I’m looking to grab a KillerB oil pickup just because stock isn’t adequate as I’ve read about them breaking. Anything else oil related that I should purchase? Thanks KillerB!

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Old 08-21-2018, 02:05 AM   #97
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Bookmarked. Thanks for keeping the feed of info. flowing you guys.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:42 AM   #98
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So for now Iím going with a basic bolt on Blouch 18gxtr8cm. Jarrad from PDX Tuning in Portland will be on Oahu tuning my car and a dozen or so of Suby brethrenís rides on Sept 7th and 8th. I will see how I like it.

Once I am bored and I feel like downing the car for a few weekends for surgery, Iíll be grabbing the Spoolinator kit. I went with the 18gxtr8cm for ease of install (only have three weeks before tuner arrives), quick spool, and transient response compared to my HTA green. I know it isnít the Spoolinator, so I know that Iíll be back.

I think the Spoolinator is the ďhave your cake and eat it tooĒ for guys who are full bolt on that didnít go rotated from the beginning. I bought my car with full boltons and the HTA green, and Iím just trying to get the low end back (from my old stage 2 04STI I owned in college) since I do mostly stoplight take offs. High hp and freeway running isnít really my thing.

After watching KillerBís videos, I know Iíll be back!

In the meantime, Iím looking to grab a KillerB oil pickup just because stock isnít adequate as Iíve read about them breaking. Anything else oil related that I should purchase? Thanks KillerB!


I'd do the baffle as well while you're in there.
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Old 08-24-2018, 09:46 PM   #99
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Does anyone know if the spoolinator fits the 2015-2019 STI?
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Old 08-25-2018, 04:32 AM   #100
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Thx snowbound. Any advantage to buying their oil pan too? Or you think the pickup and the baffle are good enough for a weekend streetcar that doesnít see a track? Man for the few hundred spent on pickup and baffle, it sounds like good insurance to not have to rebuild a blown motor due to oil starvation.
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