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Old 08-06-2019, 05:25 PM   #1
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Hi,

I'm really considering the purchase of a 2019 WRX Limited, as I recently purchased a mountain home in NW North Carolina and my current car, I don't think, is gonna fit the bill for living up there full time.

I currently own a 2011 Mazda Speed3 and have been researching the WRX for the performance and AWD capabilities.

With that being said, everyone says "get a truck", but I don't want a truck/vehicle that sits so high, not fun to drive in the twisties of the mountains, and hard to find stick shift. So, I started looking for a vehicle that has performance similar to what I have and is fun to drive.

I've located a 2019 WRX Limited for $30.5k (this is what I was quoted). It has the center armrest extension, all weather mats (don't want), updated mirror w/Homelink, and the STI carbon fiber trunk trim.

Guessing this is a pretty smoking deal, huh? Plus 1.9% financing

This one is located about an hour away from me, but I'd like to take my business to the more local dealership. I've not purchased too many cars, didn't know jack squat when I purchased my Speed3, so I paid too much for it.

Now that I've been looking into purchasing a new car, I've read a lot and feel more knowledgable, but just wanted to get opinions/advice on whether to go to the local dealership and say "Hey, XY dealership has what I want for this $, you're getting what I want in around the 26th of this month, can you beat or match?"

Thanks!
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:54 PM   #2
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Welcomed.. The real question is... Can you make tasty sammiches?
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:14 PM   #3
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Yes you should just call and ask but simetimes dealers are a pain. Just ask or check if they have your car with the add ons you like and ask for the price . However also be careful for the finance they might up your apr. worst case just walk away and drive further for one
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:30 PM   #4
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Oh heck yea.

On some other forums I'm on, I have my own thread....cooking with wolfie
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:33 PM   #5
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Yes you should just call and ask but simetimes dealers are a pain. Just ask or check if they have your car with the add ons you like and ask for the price . However also be careful for the finance they might up your apr. worst case just walk away and drive further for one
The local dealer - stated today, that the WR Blue WRX Limited will be there around end of August. Yea, I stopped by on the way home from a dr appt bc I wanted to see the colors in person vs online. That blue is beautiful!

If there are other add-ons I want, such as the sill plates, can I ask for those instead of some other add-on?

Yea, I'm not tied to this local dealership, I can drive 45min to an hour if I can get this one.
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Old 08-06-2019, 07:15 PM   #6
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I used to live somewhat north of you (Montgomery County, Virginia) and am wondering why the speed 3 doesn't meet your needs. We'd hit plenty of similar mountain roads with sporty cars.
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Old 08-06-2019, 07:26 PM   #7
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I've located a 2019 WRX Limited for $30.5k (this is what I was quoted). It has the center armrest extension, all weather mats (don't want), updated mirror w/Homelink, and the STI carbon fiber trunk trim.

just wanted to get opinions/advice on whether to go to the local dealership and say "Hey, XY dealership has what I want for this $, you're getting what I want in around the 26th of this month, can you beat or match?"

Thanks!
Yeah, definitely bring your quote (on your phone or email or whatever) to your local dealer and see if they'd match it. If not, just trek the 1hr drive and get the deal. Make sure the car is actually there though... some dealers play games like 'oh that car sold' BS and wastes your time.

GL with the purchase. I love my 19 WRX Limited.. btw, if you care about CarPlay, I would definitely check that it actually works especially if yours is one with the Harmon Kardon stereo. Mine has the Harmon Kardon and keeps dropping out. Everything else works perfectly including BT and playing tunes off my iPhone wired. CarPlay just doesn't stay connected.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:49 PM   #8
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Test drive it. See if you like it. The awd on Subarus is great but you need to feel comfortable driving it. I have a ford focus st with Recaro seats. It’s great for me but my wife is 5’2” and has to move the seat up quite a bit. The side bolsters in the seat interferes with her shifting and she doesn’t like driving it as much
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:13 PM   #9
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I used to live somewhat north of you (Montgomery County, Virginia) and am wondering why the speed 3 doesn't meet your needs. We'd hit plenty of similar mountain roads with sporty cars.
One of the biggest reasons is that my driveway to my home has 2 STEEP hills.
I'm talking about the first section with 18-20% grade and the second section with 20-25% grade.

Yes, my Speed3 gets up them now, without snow or anything else, I've cut water breaks every 25' in each section to keep the water from making ruts in the drive.
I've also put down 65 tons of gravel at a cost of 2300$.

Not sure if the Speed3 will do well in snow up there or not....
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:15 PM   #10
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Negotiate with the dealer that quoted you 30.5 to see if he will go lower. They might, considering next MY will be out soon. Then either pick it up from there at the lower price, or use it to see if your local dealer will beat that price.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:02 PM   #11
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If you have a Costco or AAA membership, see if they will quote you a price on the WRX. Costco's Auto Buying program is pretty good.

Also, I didn't see anyone else mention that you will certainly want to invest in a set of winter wheels and tires. The stock Dunlops perform well above 40 degrees F, but are not meant to be used as all season rubber and can be problematic in low temperatures.
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:17 PM   #12
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Hi,

I'm really considering the purchase of a 2019 WRX Limited, as I recently purchased a mountain home in NW North Carolina and my current car, I don't think, is gonna fit the bill for living up there full time.

I currently own a 2011 Mazda Speed3 and have been researching the WRX for the performance and AWD capabilities.

With that being said, everyone says "get a truck", but I don't want a truck/vehicle that sits so high, not fun to drive in the twisties of the mountains, and hard to find stick shift. So, I started looking for a vehicle that has performance similar to what I have and is fun to drive.

I've located a 2019 WRX Limited for $30.5k (this is what I was quoted). It has the center armrest extension, all weather mats (don't want), updated mirror w/Homelink, and the STI carbon fiber trunk trim.

Guessing this is a pretty smoking deal, huh? Plus 1.9% financing

This one is located about an hour away from me, but I'd like to take my business to the more local dealership. I've not purchased too many cars, didn't know jack squat when I purchased my Speed3, so I paid too much for it.

Now that I've been looking into purchasing a new car, I've read a lot and feel more knowledgable, but just wanted to get opinions/advice on whether to go to the local dealership and say "Hey, XY dealership has what I want for this $, you're getting what I want in around the 26th of this month, can you beat or match?"

Thanks!
Here's the best piece of buying advice: ALWAYS WALK OUT. I promise you that you'll receive a phone call shortly after. I'm basically the car purchaser in my family. I've become quite proficient at playing the game. (Although it's a painful 2 hours.)

In general, you always want to "haggle" until your salesperson has to "talk to the manager. And once the best offer has been presented to you, you walk out. I think out of the last 12 cars I've purchased, I've had 11 call backs within 24 hours. Most of them same day within 30 minutes to an hour.

REMEMBER: YOU HAVE THE POWER. The sales game is all about conditioning the customer. So typically a dealership will drag you out with credit checks, running finance options, entering in all your information... they wear you down all while conditioning you. The result is an inherent feeling of pressure, almost like an obligation to purchase. All the objections have been overcome by that point. (I've been in sales for 25 years). So if you remember that YOU'RE in charge and walk out... the tactics go out the window and they can only resort to price reduction. AND THEY WILL!
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Old 08-07-2019, 03:25 PM   #13
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Welcomed.. The real question is... Can you make tasty sammiches?
That was a sexist remark and now you should be accused, tried and convicted on Twitter over the coarse of 37 minutes, at which point your employer will be forced to fire you immediately.
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Old 08-08-2019, 01:26 AM   #14
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Spend 4k more for the STI and live regret-free.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:54 AM   #15
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That was a sexist remark and now you should be accused, tried and convicted on Twitter over the coarse of 37 minutes, at which point your employer will be forced to fire you immediately.
LOL, don't worry, he's just taking us way back to the NASIOC or yore when we actually had an active female member - who also just so happened to make excellent sammiches...

Welcome to NASIOC wolfpack65!
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:15 AM   #16
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^I'll let him slide this time

If he worked in the entertainment industry however. . . . .different story. He'd be guilty until proven innocent according to social media justice law passed in 2016
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:48 AM   #17
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Spend 4k more for the STI and live regret-free.
In general I agree with this. I love the STI and I don't think I would like the WRX as much. But having said that, the wheels on the STI are 19" and there a very few snow tire options, and the choices available are expensive.

If you want this as a winter/mountain car the WRX is a better choice. It comes with 18" wheels and a somewhat uncommon tire size. But there are many more choices for winter and all season tires than for the 19" on the STI.

The STI comes with summer only tires. I don't know if the WRX comes with all season or not.

I have read also that the WRX rides a little higher, which if true would also make it a better choice for mountains and snow.
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Old 08-08-2019, 09:12 AM   #18
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Didn't look any further, but Tire Rack lists 26 UHP all-season tires and 8 winter/snow tires in 245/40-18 . . .


Welcome aboard, wolfpack65.


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Old 08-08-2019, 09:37 AM   #19
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perhaps a cheap 18" wheel exists which could clear the Brembos wrapped in Blizzacks would solve that problem!
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Old 08-08-2019, 12:07 PM   #20
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OP did not mention if she wanted the CVT. If so the STI is out.

The Prodrive GT1 are what I bought for my 18" wheels. They were $1000 for the set.
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Old 08-08-2019, 12:47 PM   #21
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I do not want the CVT.
Stick all the way Baby!!


Well, I've got an OTD quote of $29300 but that takes into account the trade-in of the Speed3. I think I need to get the OTD at that price (or less), then figure in trade and/or cash down...

As far as the STI - I just don't want to spend more than $30k. I'll find what I want, get my haggling done and get one. Or not. It's not the end of the world.
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Old 08-08-2019, 01:31 PM   #22
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REMEMBER: YOU HAVE THE POWER.
Everything that was said here!

I will add, and it seems you are already on the right page, that you should definitely keep the trade in value out of the price so you know the true price you are paying. They have a sneaky way of playing with numbers and trade in value is one of them.

Take your car to carmx (or someplace similar) to see what a 3rd party will give you without them trying to get you on the hook for a new car.

As an STi owner I understand not wanting to spend the extra money, however, I do think you owe it to yourself to at least test drive both. Since you own a speed3, I know you like to play!

GL with your purchase!
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:12 PM   #23
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I do have an appt with CarMax on Saturday.

Made the mistake of giving info on my car to one dealership (via emails) for trade-in value and I've learned that I shouldn't have done that. IDK, maybe a dealership I won't get to deal with bc of that, but IDK.

Moving forward, I do know not to give any info about trade-ins. I need an OTD price without any consideration of trade or cash. I'm learning.

I drove, last week, a friend's STI that has had "he said" over 10k in motor stuff upgrades. It was super damn fast and yea, fun to drive. But, I'm not interested in going on a track or anything else.

A Premium or Limited will fit my bill, but I'm about 99.9% leaning to the Limited.

I go tomorrow to test drive a Premium, get a feel for it.

As far as "walking" - yea, I ain't afraid to do that if I don't get the price I want. I don't have to purchase anything right now. Zoom-zoom is paid for, it will get me to the mtns and probably able to drive around some - I'm not stupid when it comes to driving in snow.

So, if no one wants to deal this week/weekend/next week or so - whatever.

I want to find a pic of my current ride & upload....I really hate to get rid of it....
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:17 PM   #24
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