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Old 08-05-2005, 10:59 AM   #26
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I think you have to take into account condition. You can't just assume all version 3's are worth exactly the same. This one has only 40k miles, runs like a champ, and the drive train is in great condition. If you take out the cost of shipping, it's about $6250. I have a feeling a lot of people are comparing the price to what you usually get in a swap (engine, tranny, wiring harness, ecu, front cross member). If it were just that stuff it would be a lot cheaper, and I may have gotten a newer version. But along with the usual swap stuff I get

aluminum control arms (I've seen these for nearly $1000 for GCs in great condition)
4-pot suby brakes
aluminum hood
prop shaft
rear diff
half shafts
hubs
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type RA springs and struts
quick-ratio steering rack
STi sway bars
rear cross member
just about every other piece of suspension you can think of
steering wheel
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everything I need to switch from auto to manual
peace of mind knowing I'm not going to have to look for $100-500 of stuff that didn't come with a bare engine to get it in and connected.
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Old 08-05-2005, 11:44 AM   #27
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im not going to hate, what one does with their budget is their own business.

a premium is paid when clips are bought from a NASIOC forum vendor. you can argue both ways on it, they provide good service and "should" give you more peace of mind, although you can also argue that the condition a used JDM front cut is not really controllable by a usa importer.

i've seen a smashed front corner V6 front cut sell for $4500 (hood and fenders and bumpers toast). I've also seen a V8 full drivetrain (brembo's, R180 complete rear, 6 box, EJ207, full wiring but no bodywork) in a crate for $6500. A local bought a V3 stI-RA full front half with good bodywork and rear end with a set of coilovers for 5 some shipped. his was decked out with some really nice parts too, equal length headers, downpipe, Greddy external oil cooler and relocation filter, etc etc.

personally, i paid retail $450 for a Version 4 aluminum hood and $450 for a pair of front sti 4 pots. the GC8 aluminum control arms can be gotten in good shap for about $350-375. (ive sold them myself off another clip).

expensive bits they are. cheaper when you buy in a clip.

as far as clips go, i like things stock. unmolested, completely bone stock.

ive bought 2 clips personally- complete front half car intact bone stoc, both Sti's (ver 1, v2 RA) and both at prices to die for. i think its just luck or somthing :P

if asked of my personal opion of your price, id say that you paid a premium for the importing and the completeness of the bits. i'd also say that at that price GR8wheels owes you a rear body harness and some doorskins for RHD. perhaps some seats too.

personally, im a pretty lucky shopper. i always get my front clips compelte and intact with all suspension.

regardless, congrats on joining the JDM club. be glad to help with any RHD swap questions and whatnot. out of courtesy perhaps we should keep our opions of pricing to ourselves. Differnt people hold differnt values more dear.

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Old 08-05-2005, 12:42 PM   #28
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^^^^
well you have to look at it this way. not everyone has conections on JDM parts. If you do have a conection you get great deals. If not, your stuck paying an arm and a leg for parts. its as easy is that.
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Old 08-06-2005, 01:07 AM   #29
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Here's how the hood fits:




Theres a slightly larger gap than stock above the grill, but there might be something in the way. I'd say it's good enough though.
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Old 08-06-2005, 10:18 AM   #30
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well the good news is that isn't a ver 3 hood that is a ver 4 hood
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Old 08-06-2005, 11:02 AM   #31
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version 3 has new school hood but old school bumper. og hood is kinda neat though, with its funky vents
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:34 PM   #32
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Aren't version III and IV the same visually? I've been stocking up on the imprezas in GT4 and they look the same. I and II were also very similar with the earlier version I's having the higher spoiler. V and VI were the same with the exception of the chin spoiler on the version VI.

Please correct me if I'm wrong!
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:43 PM   #33
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oooh, and get the seats from V4! I love those, I wish my car had them.
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Old 08-06-2005, 07:50 PM   #34
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This is what ravensblade-impreza says about the v4:

Physically, the STi Version 4 has not changed- there have been no major styling changed since the STi Version (the Version 1, though it was technically never called that). The engine at this point changes over to an open-deck block, and the rear 2-pot caliper is introduced to the STi line.
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Old 08-06-2005, 08:09 PM   #35
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Quote:
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well the good news is that isn't a ver 3 hood that is a ver 4 hood
Why isn't it a version 3 hood? It came off a version 3 car
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Old 08-06-2005, 09:46 PM   #36
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its a version 3 hood.
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Old 08-06-2005, 09:57 PM   #37
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you do have to be carefull when buying these used JDM parts. I bought a V4 STi trans and diff from them also. Soon after i sold it due do the 4.44 being to much for the highway. The person i sold it too had some problems with it. First the input shaft seal blew out. According the the trans #, it had an open front diff. After tear down, it had a STi LSD front diff in it, so it must have been taken apart in japan. The case was also badly grooved and had to be replaced. So just a heads up on buying used JDM parts
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Old 08-07-2005, 12:43 AM   #38
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the front STi LSD could have been optioned in at the dealer, they do that kind of thing over there.

used parts are just that, used, you cant expect everything. but when you pay the higher prices, id hope to be getting better parts.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:33 PM   #39
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oops never mind
the head light design muct have changed in japan earlier than here
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:48 PM   #40
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LOL Jaxx the head lights in the 3 and 4 are the same but they do change from the ver 2s to 3s!!!
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Old 08-08-2005, 11:26 PM   #41
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Tonight I got the whole subframe disconnected--I think. Everything that I can see is disconnected anyway. I gave the frame a heave but it's definitely too heavy for me to lift.
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:13 AM   #42
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Is the lower arm bar bent?
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:30 AM   #43
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It seems to be. Maybe I can get it straightened.
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:59 AM   #44
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Hmm, so does that mean the crossmember is bent aswell?
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:04 AM   #45
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No, the x-member is fine
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:17 PM   #46
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Hi every!
Lachlan Is a great Customer.

And he has taken some slack on price! I know our stuff is not the lowest price. You see we only bring in full cars! Not clips. Thes cars ran In Japan before we purchased, Our guy talks with the owners and we know more history and have all the owners paperwork. So they are not considered clips. they are cars 1/2 cut. We have to buy the cars, cut it in 1/2 and load them into a container. Then Ship! We can only get 4 cars in a container. The cost is $3800 to cut and load the cars and transport to the dock! $3500 to ship to LA $2500 for customs and Delivery to arizona. total $ 9800 shipping $2450 per car! It is very risky game!

If a car is bad when it gets here I eat it. or disclose problems and sell for less.

The Clip guys can get 18 clips in a container, and the clips go through a process where real milage is unknown, Parts are changed, No ODO, Damaged ect. Real 30K miles JDM Motors in clips our rare! I give most DOCS with car.

over 90% of my phone calls are from people who need ECU,MAF, Solonoids,Wire harness. Stuff that is hard to get, may not match, and I tell them everything Like that goes complete with my cars. I have seen the cost of all this skyrocket the cost of the swap, And I have seen as many swaps not run right ever do to the piece meal process.

I believe if it ran right in Japan, we start it here and it runs right, it should run right in you car.

There are alot for good swappers I follow on this board! (supermoose) who can access good documented Cars and parts for some great prices, But they can also tell you some nightmares some people have had !

I have also seen someone buy a $3500 motor set spend 100 hours and and $900 in parts only to realize they just installed a 150K mile tired motor into there impreza.

Everyday I consider not bringing in full cars (because of cost) and the only real reason I do it is I get a picture of a cool car in Japan and I want to see it here!

My name is Kevin and I am a addict!

Good Luck Have Fun Everyone!
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:25 PM   #47
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P.S.

It was about 140 degrees in the container when it arrived in June. we have to lower the cars from the roof of the container with 4 chain hoists. Put them on blocks to get the wheels on them to roll them out!

Our guy set the blocks under the cusco brace, I looked under and saw it bent minutes after it happened, He no longer works here!

That is the story on the brace.
It is now wall art!
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Old 08-10-2005, 04:06 PM   #48
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thanks for posting kevin. i would like to point out to people critisizing your prices that there is ALOT of footwork involved with getting hold of a clip, actually even shopping for a front cut. id say im a 100% front clip whore, and spend aLOT of time shopping for a front clip. a fully intact front clip is really rare - esp in unmodified form. non smashed, unmolested, with full body work is quite quite desireable.

do i get them myself for cheaper - yes.
do i spend a HELLA lot of time -YES.

will i tell you my honest opion of things that you find? sure. why not.
i will not do the legwork for you, that costs alot of time.

will i find you a front clip and screw gr8wheels out of making fair money -NO.[COLOR=Red

should you buy a front clip from gr8wheels - sure. they have nice looking stuff

kevin, check your pm's i want some bits from you

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Old 08-10-2005, 09:27 PM   #49
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JDM importers is a great shop with good guys that know their ****. they just finished converting my 01RS coupe with a Ver6 STi Type RA. the whole shebangabang. full working drivetrain with working DCCD!!!!!!!. not to mention every other piece that makes the RA what it is, including the NON-ABS 4pot/2pot brakes. even kept the A/C in working order.

yes the price was a bit scary at first, but when getting a whole car, in two pieces, you get EVERYTHING. i mean EVRYTHING. its worth it in my opinion.

thanks again guys. cant wait for it to arrive back in Atlanta, GA.
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:13 PM   #50
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I agree on the idea of paying for what you get. I shopped around for a front clip and was willing to get anything sti ver III or newer. I found a cheaper shop that said that they were going to get a 2004 front clip within two weeks and I could get it for $6k. Sounded too good to be true and it was. I ordered at the beginning of March and have just received my ECU yesterday. Use someone that this forum says is good or at least do a lot of research to help not get burned. I wish now that I would have ordered from gr8wheels.
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