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Old 03-02-2016, 12:49 PM   #1
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Default Tranny Fluid. Specifically Extra S Replacement. AKA Subaru High Performance Motor Oil

So I know this topic has been beaten to death. So me being a new member thought i'd keep it alive.

That being said, i'm ready to do a transmission and diff fluid change in my 2013 sti hatch. Iv'e searched up and down about this Subaru High Performance Motor Oil (HPMO). I would have loved to use the extra s people have sworn by for years, but it looks like unless i want to talk to Canadian customs about bringing home a 5 gallon drum of some Extra-S!!! I don't see it happening. My initial reaction was to get the motul gear 300 or whatever, because its another commonly used oil. But if subaru recommends this HPMO.. and it's a fraction of the price.. and it's supposedly similar to extra-s.. i figure it at least worth a shot.

http://www.amazon.com/Subaru-75W90-P.../dp/B007L6Q1EK

So i guess my questions are...

Despite mostely good reviews, is there anyone thats ran it in there 6 speed specifically that has input?
Including 5 speed owners, does anyone have experience with this oil? That might be able to compare it to Extra S, or any others for that matter.

Thanks in advance, I just want to see some positive feedback from this relatively new transmission fluid before putting it in my baby. Also for the people that get maintenance done at the dealer, that might not have known about the switch. I will also give feedback after i've put some miles on this fluid.
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Old 03-02-2016, 01:02 PM   #2
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Default Tranny Fluid. Specifically Extra S Replacement. AKA Subaru High Performance M...

you can bring your own container and they can fill it with extra-s for you at the cost of $26/L

a gallon jug (like a washer fluid bottle) would cost you about $100CAD ($75USD at curent conversion) and i doubt they would bother you about a random jug of fuild in your trunk. i mean your allowd to carry spare fluids afterall.

if youre worried. hide it with your spare wheel when you cross the border.

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Old 03-02-2016, 01:08 PM   #3
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you can bring your own container and they can fill it with extra-s for you at the cost of $26/L

a gallon jug (like a washer fluid bottle) would cost you about $100CAD and i doubt they would bother you about a random jug of fuild in your trunk. i mean your allowd to carry spare fluids afterall.

if youre worried. hide it with your spare wheel when you cross the border.
I was about to do just that, i called the closest three dealerships to me. First one stopped carrying it like in the states. And the second and third one stopped stocking it as well and said they could order me a 5 gallon jug. I'm just not sure i want to spend 250 dollars, and a two or three hour road trip if this new HPGO is a good alternative.
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Old 03-02-2016, 01:52 PM   #4
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ahh kk. well dunno about the HPGO stuff but the Motul 300 is good stuff. i hear wonderful things about it.
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:15 PM   #5
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ahh kk. well dunno about the HPGO stuff but the Motul 300 is good stuff. i hear wonderful things about it.

Maybe I will just buy the Motul then, wish I didn't just buy this HPMO then. Nobody else with any experience or input on this oil?

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Old 03-02-2016, 05:34 PM   #6
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Last Try..

Anybody..

Any Experience With This Stuff

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Old 03-02-2016, 05:41 PM   #7
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I always heard it was pretty much the same stuff as Extra-S. I run this in my trans with no issues. If you go to a US dealer and ask for 6MT gear oil, this is what you will get.
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Old 03-02-2016, 05:48 PM   #8
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I always heard it was pretty much the same stuff as Extra-S. I run this in my trans with no issues. If you go to a US dealer and ask for 6MT gear oil, this is what you will get.
Good to hear!

I searched up and down for people that have used it in our cars. I found information about it all the way to blackstone labs, just nothing about actually running the oil. I hope to have a good experience with it as well.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:29 PM   #9
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Bump for more reviews on this HPGO
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Old 03-02-2016, 11:24 PM   #10
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In regards to HPGO, some may find this interesting.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ht=subaru+hpgo
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Old 03-02-2016, 11:54 PM   #11
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In regards to HPGO, some may find this interesting.



http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ht=subaru+hpgo

Thank you for the search. I did read that thread. I believe all it really confirmed was they are in fact different fluids (people keep marketing the HPGO as extra s). All I know is this so called replacement for extra s is what the dealership would be putting in my 6MT. It's up to spec, I'm just trying to find people that may have experience with it in their trans.
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:55 AM   #12
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Good to hear!



I searched up and down for people that have used it in our cars. I found information about it all the way to blackstone labs, just nothing about actually running the oil. I hope to have a good experience with it as well.

I wouldn't use it based on those Blackstone analyses. It's very low in metallic additives so hopefully there's some magic unicorn tears in there that don't show up in uoa's.
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:15 AM   #13
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Stop bumping this thread so often. This isn't Facebook, people will get back to you without your thread being the first one on the list!
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Old 03-03-2016, 01:24 PM   #14
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Stop bumping this thread so often. This isn't Facebook, people will get back to you without your thread being the first one on the list!
Thank you, this was some helpful info
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:15 PM   #15
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Thank you for the search. I did read that thread. I believe all it really confirmed was they are in fact different fluids (people keep marketing the HPGO as extra s). All I know is this so called replacement for extra s is what the dealership would be putting in my 6MT. It's up to spec, I'm just trying to find people that may have experience with it in their trans.
If its the same gear oil used in the factory fill of the 15/16 WRX, I would say feedback hasn't been exactly good. Now granted, that factory fill could/would/should have all sorts of particles of metal and carbon floating around in there, but a few people on the site have noted extreme notchy'ness, grinds and noises with those transmissions with that gear oil. My own car is no exception, as I started getting a grind at ~6000 miles. I steered clear of HPGO though for my first drain and fill, so I can't provide any feedback there. All I know my new gear oil made a HUGE difference in how that car shifts.

Probably not a helpful post, but its something nonetheless.
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I swapped out the factory fill in my '13 WRX 5MT with the HPGO at 18k miles. 10k later, I feel it works about the same as the factory fill. Nothing unusual to report. I may try the redline 75w-90NS when I hit 30k miles if I feel like spending the $70/gal vs. the $30 for the 4 quarts of HPGO.
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I just switched from Motul to this Subaru HPGO for my 60k maintenance. So far, so good. No notchiness, shifts are as smooth as butter, no grinds of any sort or needing anymore effort to get into gears.

The Motul was nice, but I don't think I can justify its cost. Now, if this HPGO starts acting up, I'll switch back over.
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I just switched from Motul to this Subaru HPGO for my 60k maintenance. So far, so good. No notchiness, shifts are as smooth as butter, no grinds of any sort or needing anymore effort to get into gears.

The Motul was nice, but I don't think I can justify its cost. Now, if this HPGO starts acting up, I'll switch back over.
Put some miles on that gear oil and report back.
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Put some miles on that gear oil and report back.
Yeah, i'd like to know also. But for now.... to Canada it is for some extra s.
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Five years later, you will feel damn-ass silly about this whole episode.
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Five years later, you will feel damn-ass silly about this whole episode.

Because
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Because you would realize you were a moron.
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Old 03-12-2016, 06:35 PM   #24
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Because you would realize you were a moron.

Hey guys, I'm a moron for living next to Canada and driving to my second closest dealership opposed to the first closest.
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