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Old 01-07-2009, 07:10 PM   #51
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Chris you inspire me I bought Top Gun at BB for 13.99. Id like to pick up Rambo, Troy and Ironman sometime soon if they are on sale...
look at my most recent post i got the rambo set (all first three movies) for 18 bucks at amazon! that's like 6 bucks per blu-ray!
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:12 PM   #52
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Cool my next goal is to buy a reciever that had the truehd decoder. My yamaha reciever is hooked up by optical and plays in 5.1 but I want it in the truehd audioness.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:14 PM   #53
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Cool my next goal is to buy a reciever that had the truehd decoder. My yamaha reciever is hooked up by optical and plays in 5.1 but I want it in the truehd audioness.
i got the 606 for 319 (shipped and no tax) from amazon and the truehd (master-md hd track) DO make such a difference in sound you'll IMMEDIATELY hear the difference.

keep an eye for a good deal on the onkyo 606...
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:19 PM   #54
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OP, attending the CES does not make you the master of all technology...neither does hearing some mouth spout off about it from the CES. You know who is pushing all that crap you are hearing??? It is the content providers. Why? Because they are fiving vultures and want more money so the best thing to do is try and take away from somewhere else while they reap the benefits.

Streaming media is in its infancy right now and will not explode in 3 years like you are parroting. I have been hearing what you are spouting for 5 years (hint, I work in the video streaming industry). I would be pleased if things would take off like that but it won't happen. I should bump this thread in 6 months because of *your* prediction.

To date, I have not seen a single stream of video that rivals Blu-Ray. Why? It has 0 to do with resolutions (1080p, 1080i, 720p....) and everything to do with bitrate. See, if you encode a piece of content using 1080p and cut the bitrate down to 10mbps (this is satellite HD for you) the picture is not going to be very impressive. Now, put other compression equipment in there to help save on more bandwidth and what do you end up with?

See below why this is not possible right now or in 6 months. Go ask your new CES buddies about this.


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Well...the tree, the thing is that, while streaming media is great...and will do a great deal of business, your model is slightly flawed.

A) Not everyone has highspeed internet hooked up to their TVs, and in 3 years, it's not going to be some radical change like you're expecting.

B) Notice how there are STILL people who need to convert their tvs for the digital changeover...and you think that everyone is going to plug in their TV to the internet?

C)Bandwidth...solve that before you start spouting off your nonsense.

D)Portability...it's hard to beat grabbing some DVDs (or soon to be Blu-Rays), and I doubt everyone is going to be getting HD-streaming capable connections for all their cars, and mobile connections for their computers.

You may be techno-savvy, and may even be on the leading edge...but to proclaim that it's not worth it is a little silly.

Now, HD-DVD...that was a transition media.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:47 PM   #55
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<-- has both blu-ray and hd-dvd


So do I. I bought an HD-DVD player for $100 on a black Friday deal last year from BB. Got 10 free movies with it (some I actually wanted ). Then when HD-DVD folded BB sent me a gift card for $50. So I paid $50 for an HD-DVD player with 10 movies, not a bad deal considering the player is a decent upconverting player also. To top it off HD-DVD movies can be had stupid cheap now so it is win win.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:49 PM   #56
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<-- has both blu-ray and hd-dvd
Me too, I don't care I like my HD-DVD.
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:53 PM   #57
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blue-ray will last longer than 3 years. The infrastructure in a huge part of the country can't handle streaming on demand 1080p anytime soon. That and people will always love to buy something physical with their purchase. Before you argue music/itunes, I suggest the iPod is the physical equivalent of a CD case. I agree that streaming content is the future though, for sure.

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Old 01-07-2009, 07:55 PM   #58
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until FIOS is everywhere, streaming media will never be what they claim. FIOS is way more than 3 years from being available for everyone.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:00 PM   #59
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Agreed with the last 4 replies
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:05 PM   #60
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You are right, the entire medium making devices FOR the cable compabies are doing this, I am sure the cable company will just be like
"Sorry TV people, we are comcast,k we tell YOU what to do"
and all the TV companies will be all
"ok, we r ur bitch, we give in"

riiiiiiight

Bandwith caps won't last, only idiot companies are trying it out right now.

the people will revolt.

You're delusional. There isnt enough backbone capacity available for even 25% of people to do this. Networks are shared. My 10+ years in telecom tells me there's no ****ing way there will be build-outs in the next 3 years to support the kind of bandwidth required for what you're talking about. You're also completely forgetting about the ridiculously high percentage of people that cant even get a high speed(by current standards) internet connection right now.

Puff, puff, pass.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:08 PM   #61
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I'll believe the Blu-ray is doomed the day Time Warner Cable enables my DVR to get internet access. Otherwise, I'll never watch a movie on my computer.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:09 PM   #62
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Wait, what?

Do you realize the infrastructure upgrades that would need to be in place to stream 1080p video and TrueHD/DTS-HD?

Hint: We are not even close to having that kind of backbone in this country.
Yea, I just started typing basically the same thing. Bluray movies can be up to 50gb. With an upgraded verizon dsl account (3mbps down), it would still take you over 2 straight days of downloading (at full bandwidth and doing nothing else) to get 1 movie.

Omaha: You're retarded if you think this country's internet infrastructure is ready for hd video/audio streaming on any kind of mass level.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:11 PM   #63
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:13 PM   #64
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My opinion on this is despite the fact you saw some fancy **** at CES2009, it's vaporware until proven otherwise. That's the point of CES. And with the current economic tide, in a few months notice those ideas can be scrapped or the company backing it could go under, in a realistic scenario.

But all this talk about new technology replacing blurays isn't going to do anything for several years. I cite satellite and cable and their forms of transferring HD content down to the consumer. No one honestly has 1080p aside from it being available in a physical format like Bluray. Dish claims they do, but it's still a compressed form of 1080p available on very few channels. The bandwidth simply isn't there for HD yet, so what makes you think that companies that have been trying to improve their HD service to their customers for 4 years are going to be taken by storm by a new technology? For now and for quite some time, I can see Bluray staying on top based of bandwidth issues, regardless of how the content is delivered.

Also, you state the nonsense about bandwidth caps. I do agree, but what makes you think that Comcast for instance is going to pull your bandwidth cap so you can purchase a streaming HD service from a third party instead of using their HD cable services (which suck ass)? You new to how business works?
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:16 PM   #65
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I love my Comcastic internets it be fast.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:20 PM   #66
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You're all ****ed! Cars are just transition transportation. Soon we will all be beamed up by Scotty!!!

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Old 01-07-2009, 08:33 PM   #67
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OP, while you're at CES you should pick up a new MacBook Wheel
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<-- has both blu-ray and hd-dvd


MMMMMM...Famke.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:38 PM   #69
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Not really. If you use a compressed format such as H264, a 1080p, 2hr movie may be around 8GB with almost no obvious quality loss (read: still looks/sounds way better than DVD) and that would yield a bitrate of around 10mbps, about half of a typical verizon fios subscriber's bandwidth.
but that is still double the bandwidth a cable user gets after the signal has been split but once. add one or two more splitter (For the ballers in the big houses) and throw in a tool who thinks everything will work over wireless and you have an unwatchable movie.

hell, 30% of the time youtube.com can't keep up. streaming won't dominate anything HD for at least 5-10 years. serious upgrades are needed. ontop of which HD will become even more HD down the road which will require more and more bandwidth. it's a dog chasing it's tail.
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I miss stage6.com Streaming HD straight to my computer. However I found someone implementing the same software online...
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HD On Demand looks like poopies compared to Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.

That's all I have to say about that.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:44 PM   #72
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MMMMMM...Famke.
I really hope you've seen Taken (dvdrip on torrent sites), she is very cute (even though she's getting old ) in that movie.

I can't wait to watch Taken in theaters in 3 weeks! (jan 30)
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:46 PM   #74
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HD On Demand looks like poopies compared to Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.

That's all I have to say about that.
Correct. I've so god damn spoiled with my 130+ HD-DVD/Blu-ray titles that I can't watch any HD programming without saying 'is this HD? doesn't look as great as it should'

but i'll admit, the HD (on cable/direct tv) SPORTS programming does look pretty damn good but movies/tv shows obviously won't look as good/clean as a blu-ray/hd-dvd disc just because it's been compressed to hell to save a bunch of bandwidth.
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Correct. I've so god damn spoiled with my 130+ HD-DVD/Blu-ray titles that I can't watch any HD programming without saying 'is this HD? doesn't look as great as it should'

but i'll admit, the HD (on cable/direct tv) SPORTS programming does look pretty damn good but movies/tv shows obviously won't look as good/clean as a blu-ray/hd-dvd disc just because it's been compressed to hell to save a bunch of bandwidth.
Just like I said. Poopies.

Some of mine look great, and some come out looking compressed to hell.
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