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Old 06-30-2005, 11:52 AM   #1
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Question Are resumes getting longer? I thought they are only supposed to be 1 page?

I gradudated college about 6 years ago, and so I had to prepare my resume to get a job. I remember the recruiting office always said to keep our resumes 1 page or below? I work in the IT consulting industry, and we have to hire new people every now and then. Some of these peoples resumes that I see are a few pages long?

Is your resume supposed to get longer when you get more experience, or are you still supposed to try and keep it down to 1 page?
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:53 AM   #2
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:53 AM   #3
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2 pages is the max.
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They are supposed to be one page, but in this dog eat dog world, everyone feels the need to pad their resumes with exceptional experience.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:54 AM   #5
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Incorrect. Not in IT. 4 pages max.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:54 AM   #6
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You have to use as much space as required to concisely communicate your qualifications. If your cv is as concise as possible, and you spill onto a second page, don't sweat it. I can't see a resume being over two pages long.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:57 AM   #7
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Incorrect. Not in IT. 4 pages max.
I disagree, 2 pages is plenty for someone to have to read.


The important things are keywords for HR scanning.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:57 AM   #8
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I think they should still be 1 page long. I see a lot of resumes in my job, and I don't pay much attention to any that are 2 pages or longer. That just shows me that you don't know how to get your point across without being too wordy. Oh yeah, white space is your friend when creating a resume.
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:59 AM   #9
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Any tips on these keywords? I'm actually in the process of writing up a resume for myself.

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I disagree, 2 pages is plenty for someone to have to read.


The important things are keywords for HR scanning.
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Any tips on these keywords? I'm actually in the process of writing up a resume for myself.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:01 PM   #11
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I think they should still be 1 page long. I see a lot of resumes in my job, and I don't pay much attention to any that are 2 pages or longer. That just shows me that you don't know how to get your point across without being too wordy. Oh yeah, white space is your friend when creating a resume.
It depends on the job. In a specifically technical position, an employer needs to see keywords that tell him that you are the one for the job. The job could be for a roving programmer, for example, why might work in SQL, VB, C++, PERL, HTML and Java. You would need to let them know your breadth of experience in each of those languages, while not abandoning your general educational, work ethic and leadership qualities. That could very well exceed one page.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:02 PM   #12
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Incorrect. Not in IT. 4 pages max.
I think in IT you need to tailor your resume for every job you're applying to. Sure I could have 4 pages of resume, but when applying for a development job I can really condense or totally leave off jobs that were tech support or helpdesk or whatever.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:03 PM   #13
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I disagree, 2 pages is plenty for someone to have to read.


The important things are keywords for HR scanning.
Keywords are important, but according to the last head hunter I talked to about it, he said that it's not uncommon anymore for them to see 3-4 page resumes in the IT field because you have to be so detailed in your job descriptions and such.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:03 PM   #14
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The keywords are specific to the position for which you are applying. I edit my resume with each submission to accentuate the qualifications they are seeking with focused keywords.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:04 PM   #15
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I think in IT you need to tailor your resume for every job you're applying to. Sure I could have 4 pages of resume, but when applying for a development job I can really condense or totally leave off jobs that were tech support or helpdesk or whatever.
You want to list all relevant job experience for the last 7-10 years if possible.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:05 PM   #16
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I think in IT you need to tailor your resume for every job you're applying to. Sure I could have 4 pages of resume, but when applying for a development job I can really condense or totally leave off jobs that were tech support or helpdesk or whatever.
You don't want to leave any jobs off entirely. They don't like to see lapses in employment. You CAN list the job and dates with no detail to save space.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:05 PM   #17
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Any tips on these keywords? I'm actually in the process of writing up a resume for myself.
Look at the ad/announcement for the position and mimic as much as you can. For example if the ad reads:

Network Admin
2 years experience required
MCSE required
CCNA preferred
BS in CS preferred


Then your resume' better say all of that. If you don't have one of the above, on your resume' state "BS in CS - equivelant experience" or something like that. HR is strictly weeding through 100s of resume's usually with some type of scanning software in larger organizations. So the more keywords you make sure you hit, the better.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:10 PM   #19
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You don't want to leave any jobs off entirely. They don't like to see lapses in employment. You CAN list the job and dates with no detail to save space.
Ok well not leave off, but jeez, who cares about tech support I did for an ISP 5 years ago while I was in college? That job is like 2-3 lines on my resume now.

Or an internship I did before college where I manually sent newsletters to people on mailing lists with Eudora! That job is like 1 line on my resume now. In fact if/when I go looking for another job, I'd probably take that one off completely.

And for my last job I described all of my development work, and left off all the suport and helpdesk work.

Now if I wanted to actually have a helpdesk job (hahahahahaha), then I would tone down the development, and elaborate on all the tech support.
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and yes, AOD, you are correct that some IT jobs may require more. But I know I've had to hire consultants for my business before, and I don't want to see an example of your coding skills on your resume', etc.

I'm also an arse when it comes to reading resumes. If there are ANY spelling errors, grammatical errors, or punctuation errors, it gets trashed. I don't care if the person was the best one I've seen yet...same goes for any kind of frilly/artsy crap on the resume'.

Also, always include references on your resume'. If you say "available upon request" I'll chunk your resume' in the trash. I don't have time to play phone tag with you and get your hopes up just to find a few people to discuss your experience/education with.
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A tech support job for teh pr0n company?
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and yes, AOD, you are correct that some IT jobs may require more. But I know I've had to hire consultants for my business before, and I don't want to see an example of your coding skills on your resume', etc.

I'm also an arse when it comes to reading resumes. If there are ANY spelling errors, grammatical errors, or punctuation errors, it gets trashed. I don't care if the person was the best one I've seen yet...same goes for any kind of frilly/artsy crap on the resume'.

Also, always include references on your resume'. If you say "available upon request" I'll chunk your resume' in the trash. I don't have time to play phone tag with you and get your hopes up just to find a few people to discuss your experience/education with.
What saddens me is I remember back in the day when people were writing their resumes in C code or PERL or whatever and landing 6 figure jobs.
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Old 06-30-2005, 12:15 PM   #24
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Also, always include references on your resume'. If you say "available upon request" I'll chunk your resume' in the trash. I don't have time to play phone tag with you and get your hopes up just to find a few people to discuss your experience/education with.
It is very appropriate to not include references on your resume. Here's the reason: I don't want 75 potential employers calling my references. When the serious one comes along, my references are going to treat them like a telemarketer by then. If you are serious about hiring me after reviewing my resume (and interviewing me, as references are usually the last step in the hiring process), then I will provide my references and you can call them.
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What saddens me is I remember back in the day when people were writing their resumes in C code or PERL or whatever and landing 6 figure jobs.
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