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Old 11-30-2014, 11:14 PM   #901
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Hey all, I just got done doing the 11+ 4.3" transplant into my 09 FXT. I had a little bit of work ahead of me since my FXT did not come with the USB port or handsfree (phone buttons). I ended up grabbing a '13 legacy overhead console and stole the mic from it and just matched up the correct pins in the 16pin connector on the back. I also did the same for the male USB port on the rear of the radio. Those both function as they should. I am in the process of installing some phone button(on/off hook & voice command) but NOT on the steering wheels since my Roll connector doesnt have the extra pin(which goes to #13 on the main power connector). Since my FXT harness never had the phone buttons there is NO female connector/pin in the #13 hole on the 20 pin connector/harness. Regardless I NEED to use that pin on the radio to add my own standalone phone buttons. Any ideas where I could get just ONE female pin that would fit into the connector or some other way to make a connection on that pin(mind you that the 20pin connector still needs to be able to plug into the radio as well!) thanks for all the info/tips SVXdc! it has been a great help

I need one of the little female pins in the left side of the pic that will fit my factor 20pin power harness
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:02 PM   #902
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My steering wheel controls stopped working after I put the radio back In. Bluetooth works but none of the steering wheel controls do. Is there a specific harness for this control on the factory radio?
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:10 AM   #903
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no, the bluetooth and the function buttons both connect to the radio thru the 20pin power/speaker harness. pin 14 if i remember right
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Old 12-02-2014, 11:13 AM   #904
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Just realized my post got off. What I did is amped the factory speakers and installed a line out to the sub with a metra 71-7552 into the stock radio then wired the line out to that harness. Then a 70-7552 is used to send the speaker wires from the amp back to the factory wire harness. Everything works besides the backlight on the radio and the steering wheel controls. So maybe those pins are not getting power the way I wired the harness. I guess I'll have to pop the radio back out.
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:40 PM   #905
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Hey Guys,
Been fighting with a minor issue on my 2015 STI with a factory non-nav head unit for a bit now and I think I finally sorted out some strange behavior.

When connecting a phone via bluetooth (in my case an iPhone 6) you should NOT also add the phone via the BT-A menu. If you do this it will not allow the phone to automatically reconnect, and it must be selected to play audio via BT. So at the moment I deleted the phone from both the BT-A menu and the BT handsfree pairing menus, as well as forgetting the device on the iPhone. Then I only repaired it from the handfree menu and now once again it's automatically reconnecting even though the BT-A menu says my list of devices is empty.

Hope this helps anyone else frustrated by this issue on the non-nav factory head unit.

I'm also wondering if people pairing it to both are the ones experiencing call quality issues since it seems like it might be making two separate BT connections to the phone instead of going nicely over one.
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:03 PM   #906
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I have also been having issues with the BT in my '12 Impreza Sport Limited. I have the non nav HU and I have to manually hit connect on my phone every time I get in to connect. My wife has the same HU in her '14 Crosstrek and her phone automatically connects for music and hands free.

Speaking of having the same HU, has anyone added a backup camera to a Limited that didn't come with one Factory? If not the backup camera, has anyone been able to play a DVD on their screen? Just curious what all this HU can do before I decide if I want to upgrade it.
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Old 12-13-2014, 11:06 PM   #907
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Legacy Very poor sound quality base model 2015 Legacy

I took delivery of my 2015 Legacy mid-October and have suffered the very poor sound quality of the stock non-NAV head unit since the moment I started the car and left the dealership lot. This is NOT a question of EQ settings. This is a complaint about how the spoken voice and music sounds on Sirius radio stations. I can say without a doubt it is not the Sirius service because both the Kia Rio I owned, and the Kia Soul I traded it in for my wife to drive, sound fantastic. I can sit in her Soul in my driveway, then move directly into my new Legacy and immediately wish I could swap the two radios. Since my wife has no ear for sound quality she wouldn't care if she she got the crap radio. In addition, the voice recognition, and the slowness of its response to commands is intolerable. Again, compared to either of the two Kias the Legacy comes out as the loser. Does anyone else share my opinion on this.

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Old 12-14-2014, 04:27 AM   #908
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I have not been impressed with my wife's 14 Crosstrek or my 12 Impreza's sound quality. Both vehicle are Limited's and have the same 6 speaker system without Sat radio. Her Journey before the Crosstrek had Sat radio and a very good sounding stereo and my Suburban had a great sounding system with a factory sub as well. I don't understand why Subaru does not include the Sat radio function on the Limited HU. If I recall correctly it was on the Premium radio and the Navigation system, but not the Limited. She loves her backup camera so I can't change her HU, but mine may end up with a new Alpine BT HU.
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Old 12-25-2014, 02:08 AM   #909
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Default Discussion/questions/updates about "Stock head unit information..." FAQ thread

NM, found my answer.

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Old 12-28-2014, 03:03 AM   #910
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So on my 2014 wrx with the bluetooth connection I programmed my galaxy note 3 when I got the phone and car. Now o have the galaxy note 4 and I don't know how to switch to auto connect so when I get into the car I don't have to manually connect it each time. Can someone eexplain how to do this please?
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:58 PM   #911
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So I have a 2015 WRX with navi. I have a question pertaining to actually navigation. When I have a route up, and it tells me to turn, it mutes the front speakers (radio still on in the back) and puts the voice guidance through the front. It's kind of annoying and I wish it would just lower the volume and play over it in the front speakers or something, or some how I could just cut it completely. When I lower the guidance volume to max, it still mutes the front speakers, the instructions are just barley audible at that point.
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:27 PM   #912
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Default Oem touch screen display not responding: solid black and white screen

Hello everyone, i ran into an issue with my stock oem head unit on my 2013 sti (the gps/stereo touch screen, off the top of my head i think its the FA601US but i could be wrong on that)

Anyways, i had to disconect the battery and when i reconnected it, the display would flicker slowly between a white and black screen. I didnt touch anything except the - connection on the battery, and i checked the fuse which was good. I've read that other members just lost their saved radio stations and contact info, but mine wont even display the subaru logo when the ignition is turned on. My local dealer said that the unit needed to be reset by a tech and it takes 2hrs

Any tips,tricks or suggestions would be greatly appriciated, thanks! -Austin

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Old 02-05-2015, 04:56 PM   #913
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Hello, I have a 2014 Impreza Sport Premium, that I purchased last March, 2014.

I have the original CM621UB head unit in my car, and I have been weighing the options of what to try and replace it with. I am on a bit of a budget, and I would prefer a stock unit to an aftermarket one. Here is what I've researched/looked at, and then I have a few questions about compatibility.

First, I've looked at possibly trying to find a CF625UM head unit, as one of my bigger reasons for an upgrade would be the HD Radio feature. I had installed a JVC HD aftermarket stereo on my previous vehicle and liked the features/additional stations it provided. I don't really need Satellite Radio, nor do I need the Nav. (Either would be nice, but not a necessity for me).

Next, I've looked at finding a FA601US head unit. While it seems to have everything (HD, Sat, Nav, etc), and the Sat/Nav would be pretty nice to have if I did decide to later use them, the cost (both new from the dealer, and used on ebay), would out of budget for me.

My compatibility questions (probably more like reverse engineering questions), are related stereos in the Subaru BR-Z/Scion FR-S. I noticed that the FA601US head unit could possibly be found in either the BR-Z, or the Impreza Limited/Sport Limited. While the BR-Z and FR-S are not identical and do have distinctions between them, what is the likelihood of the Pioneer ACLP-W13U T10004 Head Unit, (the basic stereo in Scions, including FR-S) would be able to connect up and work in an Impreza? Would Toyota and Subaru change the wiring harness connectors between the FR-S and BR-Z?

I ask because I like the "simplicity" of the ACLP-W13U head unit, and the fact that it offers both HD and SAT, but doesn't have all the fancy Nav/Internet stuff to go with it. Also, it seems to be inexpensive when compared to what a FA601US or even a CF625UM goes for on ebay. I'm not sure what the compatibility of the Subaru ASWC or the USB/Aux would be in my Impreza, but I find myself usually just listening to the radio anyway.

Hope I didn't get too off topic.

Edit- I meant to include that I've looked into finding a CF629UM Head Unit, but they seem more difficult to locate, imo.

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Old 03-07-2015, 04:46 PM   #914
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So I purchased a CF629UM head unit on eBay that was out of a 2015 WRX, (swapped out my CM621UB), and it works great except for 3 things:

1. When I try to connect to the Bluetooth, it goes through the setup procedure, etc, but when I try to pair my phone (Samsung Galaxy 6s), I get up to the part where it is "searching", and my phone finds "Car_M_Media" and when I click it on my phone, or go to enter the passkey, it will Fail, and therefore, no connection is made.

2. The stereo will recognize the AUX port (headphone jack), but will say "No Device" when I try to use the USB, no matter what I plug into the port.

3. The BRAKE light in the instrument cluster stays on.


Other than these 3 things, the HD and Radio work great. Any thoughts?

I tried looking into the "Unit-Aux Terminal" and the "Cord Assembly Adapter" online through a Subaru parts page, and noticed they had different part numbers ('14 Impreza vs '15 WRX), would that make any difference?
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:39 AM   #915
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Oh my, and I thought I was going crazy!

I too have the dreaded "brake" lamp stuck in the lite state now as well on the cluster.

I installed a 2015 WRX CV629UM head unit in my 2013 XV Crosstrek Premium. Everything works great, including both BT Audio & auto re-connect with my iPhone6.

The XM Radio volume is a joke. At least on the Ch 001 preview channel. Nowhere near as loud as the other sources.

Also, the USB interface socket on the new HU is not compatible with my factory cable. I can work that out with a new cable from a 2015 WRX no problem, but still sucks they changed the interface layout.

The big one is the constant brake lamp illumination on the cluster. Anyone gets this figured out, please share the love.

Thanks!
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Old 03-11-2015, 12:14 PM   #916
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After some investigation (2013 XV Crosstrek service manual)

From what I can tell, on the 16 pin harness "B186" there is a connection for "Parking Brake / Brake Fluid Warning Light System" on pin 15 (listed in the service manual for my 2013 Crosstrek.)

I have no idea why Subaru did this, but for some reason with the new WRX HU installed now the lamp on the dash stays lit. Everything else seems to work as it should (same as my OE HU,) other than the USB connector socket being different. That's a workable fix.

I'm going to try and just disconnect the parking brake wire at the brake handle and see if this clears it. Update to follow..
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Old 03-18-2015, 05:56 PM   #917
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Hey so i got a kenwood nav for my impreza and i have it all hooked up, everything works but randomly the audio functions are completely disabled, like the buttons dont even respond but then randomly they will work again, anybody have similar issues? I think it may be software related...
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Old 03-19-2015, 11:18 PM   #918
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@MackDaddy- Hey, good to know I am not the only person with this problem.

When I realized the connector for the USB interface socket was different. Wound up pulling the CV629UM I installed to find that out. (Didn't realize it the first time because the connector for the original stereo kept falling down behind everything, and seemed hidden. It's tough to keep track of stuff when you're installing a stereo with a folding mirror and a flashlight between your teeth, haha).

I ordered a connector for the USB off of Ebay, it was labelled "TOY-USB-F-90CM," and plugs into the stereo usb connector port. I'll hopefully get to reinstall the CV629UM HU when I get a day off from work.

Still can't get the Bluetooth to pair with my Samsung Galaxy S5 on my CM621UB (OEM Stereo that came with my '14 Impreza). It worked great before I pulled the stereo to put in the CV629UM, and now it won't pair with my phone since I reinstalled it.

MackDaddy, did you find any solution for the Parking Brake light?
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Old 03-19-2015, 11:21 PM   #919
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Just figured out what my problem was... For anybody doing a kenwood nav swap make sure you tap the 12v ignition on wire from the clock harness and wire it to the 24 pin harness otherwise audio function cuts out...
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@Nebraska03

Ooh goody, a possible USB interface solution! Excellent!

I had no issues pairing my iPhone6, both phone and audio work great.

And yes sir, I fixed the instrument cluster constant "BRAKE" lamp illumination issue. I cut pin 15 wire (gray) on the 16 pin interface harness. Problem solved.

Thanks!
Jim

Edit: Can you post a link to the eBay auction for the connector? I did a search for "toy-usb-f-90cm" and didn't come up with anything that resembles what we need.

Thanks man!

2nd Edit: This may work..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOR-PAC-Suba...item2ede2ddd42

3rd Edit: David is right, this won't work. It's the same connector type as the back of my stock HU in the 2013 XV.

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Old 03-20-2015, 02:12 AM   #921
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on the 16 pin harness "B186" there is a connection for "Parking Brake ..." on pin 15 (listed in the service manual for my 2013 Crosstrek.)
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I have no idea why Subaru did this, but for some reason with the new WRX HU installed now the lamp on the dash stays lit.
A few Subaru models have the parking brake and reverse gear signals on the 16-pin aux/mic harness, including 2011-2013 Forester models which had the 4.3" screen HU factory-installed, and all 2012-2014 Impreza (not WRX or STi) & Crosstrek with non-nav HU with Bluetooth. Up until now, those pins had been vacant on the other Subaru models that have a 16-pin aux/mic harness.

On the non-nav 2014-2015 Forester and 2015 Impreza HUs, the HU now grounds pin 15 internally to signal the car's Multi-Function Display (MFD) that a data-capable HU is present. The HU sends radio data (audio source, radio station, artist, title, etc.) to the MFD via pins 8 and 16.

So as MackDaddy, posted, you'll have to disconnect pin 15 to keep the HU from lighting up the parking brake indicator (and possibly causing problems with other systems in the car that monitor the p. brake circuit).

As for USB, I recommend these two adapters:
* Reverse Toyota USB adapter:
* Subaru USB adapter:
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Each of those is about 6" long.

I'm guessing from its name that the "TOY-USB-F-90CM" adapter that Nebraska03 found is 90 cm long (almost 3 feet!). Keep in mind that the car's factory USB harness (to the socket in the armrest console) adds another 3+ feet, and you'll add your device's cable on top of all of that. With USB cables, shorter is better, to provide as much charging current as possible to your device.

People who are transplanting the OEM Fujitsu Ten nav HUs (or any other Subaru or Toyota HU with a Toyota-style USB socket) can use those also.

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Old 03-20-2015, 02:45 AM   #922
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i got a kenwood nav for my impreza and i have it all hooked up, everything works but randomly the audio functions are completely disabled, like the buttons dont even respond but then randomly they will work again, anybody have similar issues? I think it may be software related...
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Just figured out what my problem was... For anybody doing a kenwood nav swap make sure you tap the 12v ignition on wire from the clock harness and wire it to the 24 pin harness otherwise audio function cuts out...
The HU shouldn't have needed that. Many people have transplanted the OEM Kenwood Navi into Subarus without connecting that pin.

Also, think about it -- normally you're able to use the HU with your key in the ACC position (i.e., no +12V ignition signal).

I suspect you coincidentally fixed some other problem in the process of connecting the HU's IGN pin.

I've never found out what it's for, but on schematics I've seen, it's used only as a signal input into the microcontroller (to tell the HU you have the key at IGN/RUN). It's not used to supply power to anything inside the HU. I haven't heard from anyone who has noticed any functions not working due to that pin being left disconnected.
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The HU shouldn't have needed that. Many people have transplanted the OEM Kenwood Navi into Subarus without connecting that pin.



Also, think about it -- normally you're able to use the HU with your key in the ACC position (i.e., no +12V ignition signal).



I suspect you coincidentally fixed some other problem in the process of connecting the HU's IGN pin.



I've never found out what it's for, but on schematics I've seen, it's used only as a signal input into the microcontroller (to tell the HU you have the key at IGN/RUN). It's not used to supply power to anything inside the HU. I haven't heard from anyone who has noticed any functions not working due to that pin being left disconnected.

Well heres the odd thing... I bought 2 kenwood nav HUs, the first one was damaged in the mail (the motorized screen came off track and it was very sensitive to being bumped around, it would reset if you knocked it too hard) but it turned on and everything worked other than the audio (the bottons were disabled, no sound, only the gps and canbus related info worked) so i figured it was broken. So i bought a different one that made it to me undamaged... Hooked it up, low and behold the audio worked for a little while then the same problem happened! All this happened before i successfully tapped the VSS wire and the 12v on wire. So this time im freaking out because this is the 2nd unit thats not working. I continued to experience intermittent periods of normal functioning vs no audio. So i got the gps antenna in the mail a day later and decided i would hook everything up and see what happened. I did the rest of the install except this time i added a new connection one by one, the last being the 12v on wire... Once i hooked it up it worked perfect ever sense. So i tested the damaged unit, it too now worked... Heres something else thats weird... Before i got it working i noticed that the HU would work majority of the time with the ignition key in the on position vs the acc position... My theory is that most of the time the HU received this info from canbus? But on my car in particular it would only get the signal sometimes? I dont know, it was just my experience that without it hooked up i had issues.... But regardless it works flawlessly haha, it almost wasnt worth the trouble. Also David, the transplant harness i have has a 16 pin female plug with the corresponding 4 wires for aux ran to it, it is a harness you built for somebody elses car, obviously a 2011 or 2012. I want to run an aux cable for my car because i dont have one. Do you happen to have a 16 pin male plug you can build with an RCA wire so that i dont have to remove the plug from your harness? If not maybe you could build me the necessary RCA wire with pins so all i would need to do is switch the wires on the 24 pin connector from the 16 pin plug to the RCA wire, like the example you show on your website for "AUX Audio RCA Jacks" thanks
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After some investigation (2013 XV Crosstrek service manual)

From what I can tell, on the 16 pin harness "B186" there is a connection for "Parking Brake / Brake Fluid Warning Light System" on pin 15 (listed in the service manual for my 2013 Crosstrek.)

I have no idea why Subaru did this, but for some reason with the new WRX HU installed now the lamp on the dash stays lit. Everything else seems to work as it should (same as my OE HU,) other than the USB connector socket being different. That's a workable fix.

I'm going to try and just disconnect the parking brake wire at the brake handle and see if this clears it. Update to follow..
I transplanted a FJ HU into a crosstrek with no issues. Autoharnesshouse.com sent me a transplant harness with the 16 pin plug already wired with the parkingbreak wire in place. I had no issue or warning lights on my dash.

As far as USB adapters, find US sellers on eBay. I ordered a $5 one from China and never recieved it.

Good luck.
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I don't know what an "FJ" HU is, but if it worked for you great.

All I know is the CV629UM 2015 WRX HU needed pin 15 of the B186 16 pin harness disconnected. No more continuous "BRAKE" lamp illumination.

I'll work with David on the USB interface.

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