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Old 05-23-2019, 12:11 PM   #3776
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Ozark Trails tents are practical and decent quality. And walmart sells them, so you can probably return in in the fall wadded up in a ball with no receipt.

$250 for a 12-person 3-room tent. (Just sayin')





* remembers he's going car camping this weekend, and might like to sleep on a cot since I for my gall bladder remove 2 weeks ago. I have the cot, now I heed an apartment that fits in my truck box.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:37 PM   #3777
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Yeah I'm not sure how big I want to go. Sure buying a 12 person monster would be fun, but some trips I feel I am limited by space. Either space in the car (it's always tight because 4 of us go in a car) or space at the site. Not all of them, but enough I worry about it. I've also camped in some tight spots when I went dispersed camping. I want a solution for both.

3 person is probably a better bet. I don't think I want to sleep with more than one other person. The extra room would be appreciated, of course.

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Old 05-23-2019, 12:38 PM   #3778
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The problem with department store tents like that, I know because that's all that I've ever owned, is that the mesh being on the outside of the window flaps allows water to wick up from the lower seam when it rains and then leaks to the inside. You have to carry a tarp to be a tent for your tent if you go anywhere that rain might be a factor.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:45 PM   #3779
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The problem with department store tents like that, I know because that's all that I've ever owned, is that the mesh being on the outside of the window flaps allows water to wick up from the lower seam when it rains and then leaks to the inside. You have to carry a tarp to be a tent for your tent if you go anywhere that rain might be a factor.
Condensation is a big problem too.

If it's nice weather, I highly recommend the Coleman Instant tent series.
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:25 PM   #3780
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Yeah I'm not sure how big I want to go. Sure buying a 12 person monster would be fun, but some trips I feel I am limited by space. Either space in the car (it's always tight because 4 of us go in a car) or space at the site. Not all of them, but enough I worry about it. I've also camped in some tight spots when I went dispersed camping. I want a solution for both.

3 person is probably a better bet. I don't think I want to sleep with more than one other person. The extra room would be appreciated, of course.

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I was just showing how inexpensive they are. They have dome tents too.

I used the Copper Spur 2 and would buy one for sure. There is probably a pic of it at the Marble Mountains wilderness in the thread. I wold probably go with the 2. It's not that much, and the first time you what to share, or want your gear in the tent for whatever reason, you'll be bummed.

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Old 05-23-2019, 05:57 PM   #3781
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The half done (and quarter done) REI tents are great but if you are buying a separate tent for just car camping, why not get something with more space and headroom?

An REI Kingdom 4 for example?
The Half Dome Plus is pretty spacious for one person, with plenty of room under the rainfly for keeping things out of the sun/rain.

I just used mine for a few days in Utah.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:15 PM   #3782
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Rei branded tents are not what they used to be, lots of corners being cut. Thinner fabrics, less zippers, if you snap a weird shaped pole you can't get a replacement...
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:46 PM   #3783
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Rei branded tents are not what they used to be, lots of corners being cut. Thinner fabrics, less zippers, if you snap a weird shaped pole you can't get a replacement...
They are still quite good for the price, especially on sale or even better from a garage sale, we got our Kingdom from one 90% off because it needed 30 minutes worth of repair to fix a ripped seam and has been solid through several heavy storms.
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Old 05-23-2019, 08:55 PM   #3784
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Moosejaw has gear on sale 25% off. All the MSR bits, like stakes and clinchers and whatnot.


I just found out Walmart now owns MooseJaw. WTF?

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Old 05-23-2019, 11:54 PM   #3785
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I forgot about the REI used gear thing. Lightly used mountaineering tent, -37%. No leaky seams!
https://www.rei.com/used/p/big-agnes...r=Orange%2FRed
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Old 05-24-2019, 12:29 AM   #3786
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Just checked out the REI magma 30 at the store today. Umm, it's see through. Yikes.

The mgama 15 seems super puffy, 3 inches thick. The magma 30 felt like it was severely lacking in insulation. I could literally see my hands moving around under. The low weight is nice but I have a feeling it would be cold.

Magma 15 is rated 7 lower limit, 15 comfort.
Magma 30 is rated 30 lower limit, 39 comfort.

Big difference in how they name it.
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Old 05-24-2019, 12:53 AM   #3787
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They are still quite good for the price, especially on sale or even better from a garage sale, we got our Kingdom from one 90% off because it needed 30 minutes worth of repair to fix a ripped seam and has been solid through several heavy storms.
Maybe you got an old one, I exchanged an original kingdom 6 under warranty and the newer one is junk in comparison.

I still buy plenty of stuff from rei (other brands usually) and at 90% off you can't really go wrong.
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:24 AM   #3788
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Just checked out the REI magma 30 at the store today. Umm, it's see through. Yikes.

The mgama 15 seems super puffy, 3 inches thick. The magma 30 felt like it was severely lacking in insulation. I could literally see my hands moving around under. The low weight is nice but I have a feeling it would be cold.

Magma 15 is rated 7 lower limit, 15 comfort.
Magma 30 is rated 30 lower limit, 39 comfort.

Big difference in how they name it.
I have a Mountain Hardware Ratio 15 that I like. I've been looking at the HyperLamina Spark long, 42* comfort, 18 oz., $165 http://www.rei.com/rei-garage/produc...eping-bag-long
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:57 PM   #3789
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Rei branded tents are not what they used to be, lots of corners being cut. Thinner fabrics, less zippers, if you snap a weird shaped pole you can't get a replacement...
I have an REI Camp Dome 6 and it's by far the best tent I've owned so far. Perfect for me and my wife, and when my dog was around. I think we've had it 7 or 8 years now.
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Old 06-10-2019, 08:32 PM   #3790
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I am going to do a lot more 1-2 night trips this summer. I have a friend I do trail maintenance with that is writing a trail guide of the area, and she and I just figured out we really like each other. One of the things that got it going was a conversation about ultralight solo trips, and how we both wished we had a partner to do that with (not even talking about dating)

I am working on a 5-minutes to go 1-2 night setup. I have a a large Osprey Exos 48. Yesterday I set up my Tartpent StratoSpire 2 with no fly and trekking pole support (carry no tent poles.) I am just putting it together.

Here it is packed. Tent, stakes and guylines. I didn't weight it, but I it's close to a lb, if not under. I have a 4-season version, so the top is not mesh and will withstand some rain. I can pack the fly in the tent bag such that I can just shove this bag in the top. It's abut 1/4 the size of the whole thing.



I can sleep fine with a tech blanket, although I wish mine was a long.

I have a storage box with boots, and clothes to wear to leave. And an Adventure Medical Kits first aid kit that. So besides fine tuning the contents, (like which filtration system - light gravity fed, or will I have to get water from a mudhole) food is the only thing I need, and water for convenience. I always have food bars, so in a real hurry, I can just get out.

I have an ultralight vest and coat that I wear, but rather that keep them with coats, I'll just keep them in the pack out of their stuff sacks.

I know it's been covered about what to take, but a lot of that is NOT ultralight talk.

I need to do something other than my 19 oz Kershaw Camp 10 machette. I think a saw it the way to go, and fixed-blade knife that I can set up very reachable, I saw a sheath attached a shoulder strap that you can reach easily, and your elbow in in front of your head as you get it. You can get it in a spot so you can reach with either hand.
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:12 PM   #3791
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I've been really happy with our 15" Sven Saw for cutting wood up to 10" dia. when we're camping and backpacking and it weighs about 11-12 oz. Might be a good option for light weight trail maintenance.
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Old 06-10-2019, 11:20 PM   #3792
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I've been really happy with our 15" Sven Saw for cutting wood up to 10" dia. when we're camping and backpacking and it weighs about 11-12 oz. Might be a good option for light weight trail maintenance.
I am torn between that and a Silky 240mm folding curved-blade tree saw @ 10.4 oz. The Sven is so compact and light, but the silky is pointy and a serious weapon. I think I would rather get slashed with a sharp knife than a
draw saw.

A guy on the trail maintenance has a 500 mm Silky Katana Boy. I cut through a 18" fallen tree and it was ridiculously easy.

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I use a Corona Razortooth 10" folding pruning saw, and it's perfect for working through longer chunks of deadfall. Then I split it with a hatchet or baton through it with my Becker-KaBar.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:20 AM   #3794
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Did a 8 mile loop in Red Mountain Open Space (north of Ft. Collins, CO) last week - super pretty.






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Old 06-11-2019, 10:29 AM   #3795
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A guy on the trail maintenance has a 500 mm Silky Katana Boy. I cut through a 18" fallen tree and it was ridiculously easy.
I'm not surprised. I only own one Silky saw (the small "pocket boy" one) and it's a high quality tool. The teeth are sharp and efficient, and the blade and handle are sturdy. I got it to break small branches down for my Bushbuddy wood stove, and it worked great.

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Just "finished" a quasi-impromptu backpacking trip in the Ventana Wilderness. I've had a bunch of personal stuff going on and needed to get away from it all. The plan was to head out for 5 days (leave Mon, return Fri) for some solitude and relaxation.

I ended up cutting the trip shorter due to two issues - heat and bugs.

I had checked the weather report but looked at the wrong area...it was 100+ every day. That on it's own was challenging but it was the second part, the bugs, that made it overwhelming for me.

Most of the hiking was along a valley area with tons of shade & still plenty hot. Hot = tons of sweating. Tons of sweating = tons of bugs.

Thankfully there was plenty of water...so many streams, so many springs! It was beautifully lush and verdant but tons of water = tons of bugs.

Any time I stopped I'd just get swarmed with the little a-holes. It wasn't mosquitoes (too hot for them I guess) but instead these little orange biting flies. I could cover myself up but that just made me sweat more and attracted more of them. Having a fire didn't help...I had to sit right next to it for it to keep 'em away and then I was absolutely roasting. Bug spray was ineffective against them. My only refuge was to stay in my hammock (which has an attached mosquito net) and that was pretty sweltering + rather boring...just sitting there, not moving much, and hearing them buzz all around me.

On the first night I decided to cut it short 1 day. On the second night I decided to go home the next morning. I simply wasn't enjoying myself.

However I'm not bummed out about the whole trip. I'm glad I went. My gear worked out great, I am happy with how I handled the situation, I'm impressed by how well I physically fared considering the weather, and it was awesome to get away from it all.

Anyway...here are a bunch of pictures.
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^that is a cool bridge for a trail bridge.
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^that is a cool bridge for a trail bridge.
It was surprising to see that 3-3.5 miles from the trail head - but then the area does have a pretty long history and is well traveled:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tassajara_Hot_Springs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tassaj...ountain_Center

I'd like to go again and hike to the monestary...staying there overnight would have been wonderful.
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Packed!



Only a 2 night trip but should be a good shakedown for a bunch of new stuff.

Pack is an osprey Manta 34, tent is a Nemo Galaxi 2, bag is a Nemo Forte synthetic and pad is a sea to summit comfort light SI. The foam core pads had so much more support for me as a side sleeper that I compromised packability and weight for comfort. Everything was 25% off or more at REI except the pack.

South Manitou island is our destination and only a little over 2 mile hike in from the dock so perfect for a try out with a bunch of new stuff.

We're going to try a new water filtration system. Since there will be 6 of us in a group we got a 1 gallon gravity filtration system from Sawyer. Solid reviews. Wife has her small MSR pump type as a backup and everyone else has a small one so if it sucks then oh well.

Also will be finally using my ESEE-5 knife.
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whats the total weight of that pack?
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